In case you missed it, Sean Hannity's "Enemy of the Week" was Hugo Chavez. (The segment used to be called "Enemy of the State," but it was changed a week after the show debuted. Too Stalinish.)
Hannities enemies are always strongmen or Hollywood celebs. Except the time he picked the mayor of Philadelphia.
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So..uh....
what's the Arbitrons for ol' Hannity compared to the massive dynamo ratings of Sam Seder, King of All Crystal Radio Sets?
FOX compares move.org and the daily kos to Stalin
my Mom watches that channel
now she probably thinks I have fallen into some kind of online cabal
I hope see didn't see that
-conbo
re:ted haggard massage table
ew ew ew ew
-conbo
i see the alternate universe has arrived
ciao
-conbo
here it is, two hours later and i'm still worked up over HR. this bozo is a genuine f'tard. first he tell's us that we're wrong to criticize the chimp because it emboldens our enemies. then he confuses reality with a the tv show 24 saying we're going to get nuked any day. and now on the top of the hour news darth cheney is at it again saying the democrats resolution supports our enemies.
when the hell are our representatives going to stand up and say enough is enough and impeach the whole lot of these evil mother'fin idiots who have done nothing but rape and pillage and destroy the middle class.
Capitalism -
One radio show fighting with another to sell radio advertisements. Why should I advertise on your station. Where is the payoff for me?
Survival of the fittest-
By killing off the shows that can not sell ads, we strengthen the overall quality of the radio market.
Live long and prosper -
Show that flourish in the marketplace tend to spawn additional radio show with a similar outlook.
Cull the herd -
By killing off show that that can not show a positive cash flow, we get rid of shows to which people will not listen
Sen. Schumer Calls On Karl Rove To Testify »
In a new statement, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has asked the Senate Judiciary Committee to call on top White House aide Karl Rove to testify over the U.S. Attorney purge. The White House acknowledged yesterday that Rove “served as a conduit for complaints about federal prosecutors. From Schumer’s statement:
“The more we learn, the more it seems that people at high levels in the White House have been involved in the U.S. Attorney purge,” Schumer said. … “There’s an emerging pattern that is extremely disturbing and everyday the sanctity of U.S. Attorneys as neutral enforcers of law without fear or favor is diminished,” Schumer said. “We will get to bottom of this.”
New York Times columnist Paul Krugman went through the record on Rove’s involvement in his column today:
Sources told Newsweek that the list of prosecutors to be fired was drawn up by Mr. Gonzales’s chief of staff, “with input from the White House.” And Allen Weh, the chairman of the New Mexico Republican Party, told McClatchy News that he twice sought Karl Rove’s help — the first time via a liaison, the second time in person — in getting David Iglesias, the state’s U.S. attorney, fired for failing to indict Democrats. “He’s gone,” he claims Mr. Rove said.
After that story hit the wires, Mr. Weh claimed that his conversation with Mr. Rove took place after the decision to fire Mr. Iglesias had already been taken. Even if that’s true, Mr. Rove should have told Mr. Weh that political interference in matters of justice is out of bounds; Mr. Weh’s account of what he said sounds instead like the swaggering of a two-bit thug.
Also yesterday, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) and Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) declared their intention to question Rove “about any role he may have played in the firing of eight U.S. attorneys.”
Rove not out of it yet!
Chavez Citgo Oil group does 32 billion dollars worth of business per year in the united states perhaps more now that my oil bill has doubled.
If Citgo makes good on thier promise of a four hundred million dollar subsidy for the poor. More likely they will perform as wellas Bernie sanders promises of Chavez oil. Bernie identified 800 deserving Vermonters last march delivered oil to only four hundred last spring.
If Chavez does the half assed job Sanders did who benifits from his PR campaign?
I believe that there are poor people suffering, I also believe in delivering on promises.
Chavez has entered into an aliance with Nigeria and Iran and is funding insurgencies in the middle east terrorists if you support that behavior go ahead. We are receiving a pittance of the increased energy spending that Chavez has wrung out of the United States of Americas middle class. His megalomaniacal quest to rule south America, and any benefits for the poor there, beyond rhetoric, have yet to be proven. What has been proven is Chavez's willingness to silence his opposition, and quash democracy.
I hate George Bush( hate may not be strong enough) let me be perfectly clear on this he is a moron and a disappointment as a world leader.
But Chavez is a piece of shit pretending to be chocolate.
hee!
supoena power!
tain't much but neither is a taint!
http://www.mealsmatter.org/
Amazing...
Dennis Kucinich, the only guy the Bloggo Left would find truly "pure" as a progressive....
and he calls them gutless for not wanting to go on Fox!
While the "RINOs" opt out and are praised for it!
Where to Protest Peacefully [other than anywhere you see Hillary Clinton]
LONG
LIST
BBL
Hugo Chavez is bad, bad man! He steals from the poor, and he buys terrorist soup with the money!
Bush is dictator, but Chavez wants to be Bush!
Very bad, bad man.
Hugo is bad! I hear from all my friends and newspapers!
nuclear soup toxic swill to be spat in your eyes.
"What has been proven is Chavez's willingness to silence his opposition, and quash democracy."
You can't hide behind "free speech." You have to draw the line somewhere. When media outlets call themselves "news" but are really nothing but propaganda, that's not free speech. It's misleading, it's a lie, and it's dangerous. We put up with it here because we are forced to. Big money rules.
juicey said...
"nuclear soup toxic swill to be spat in your eyes."
++++
Sounds like a Russian curse. Russians have great curses. Very creative.
keith olbermann interview:
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/entertainment/16868901.htm
Air America is on the air only because of shadowy forces manipulating the marketplace. Free trade is being undermined by unnatural means. The invisible hand strikes again.
Damn you, Bavarian illuminati!
I don't that much about Chavez, Juicey
I can't get an opinion on him that is not biased
I think the people in Venezuala are still poor under his leadership
and I think that is dismaying considering his platform. Other than that I don't know.
Until I see some actual unbiased reports about him, I don't know what to think.
You are an reactionary idiot, Juicey-one who thinks he's clever.
Being reactionary is like hiccuping.
Body functions are not clever
-conbo
so, i just went on the air america website and one of the banner (the one on top of the page) was for John McCain. i think though it is by chance because it changed when i refreshed the page. i understand that it is a business thing and all, but does AAR need to be associated with him since he has done a totally 360 on issues that are important to the democratic party and to the majority of AAR listeners. he isn't the "maverick" that everyone paints him to be. he panders (though i know most politicain do) has gone back on all that he has said he stood for (freedom of choice, religion, etc.). anyways, just wanted to put in my 2 cents. happy blogging to all!
Bush mouths support for "social justice" while asserting US interests in Latin America
In a speech delivered on the eve of his trip to Latin America this week, US President George W. Bush cast his administration as a champion of "social justice" in the region. This hypocritical posturing is designed to conceal the real agenda of the American president's tour, which is to reassert US imperialism's power in its "own backyard" and to counter growing popular unrest that threatens its strategic interests.
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When Bush returns and finds out that his trip has done little to alter the growing leftist trend of Latin America, the iron fist of the new Deputy Secretary of State, John Negroponte, will take control of US policy. Negroponte as ambassador to Honduras helped run the contra war in Nicaragua in the 1980’s, which murdered thousands of innocent civilians in Honduras as well as Nicaragua, and he is known to believe that more aggressive measures have to be taken against Chavez and the gathering storm in Latin America. He comes to his new post after serving as Director of National Intelligence, and prior to that ambassador in Bagdhad. Given that Condoleezza Rice has little expertise in Latin America, Negroponte will set policy for the region, overriding the few remaining moderates in the State Department’s office of Hemispheric Affairs.
With Negroponte we can expect a marked increase in US covert operations, aimed not only at Chavez in Venezuela, but also at the other governments and the popular movements in the region that are leading the charge against the historic US domination of Latin America and are bent on constructing more equitable societies.
http://64.191.57.43/articles.php?artno=1977..
John Dean was on Randi Rhodes' show on Thursday and dropped open this U.S. Attorney scandal further by suggesting that the new A.G.s were put in place so that they could beef up their resumes before receiving judicial nominations.
Why don't you try the Council on Hemispheric Affairs, conbo.....?
coha.org
OR
Try my blog...in case you haven't read anything I've posted here in near 3 yrs...it's about South america & central america...You can search it for Chavez or use the zoomtag cloud...
http://pscelebrities.com/alice/
I don't only post 'good' news about Chavez ...my blog shows economic numbers too...
p.s. I support Zapatistas...NO government is good government...(unless it's a good government council like the Zaps have...which btw..the Zap- autonomous zones are being invaded by paramilitaries now....
Hey juicy....did you know that there was an attempted coup in Venezuela in 2002? & that Bush knew about it....?
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/29/1448220
CIA Documents Show Bush Knew of 2002 Coup in Venezuela
I'm not interested in defending Chavez, or Morales or Correa for that matter...
thanks Alice...
i will read it
:)
-conbo
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hi Alice.
Hi NC...
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Cop kills Trini in Brooklyn
Police Say Brooklyn Shooting Was Justified
"Liberalism, austere in political trifles, has learned ever more artfully to unite a constant protest against the government with a constant submission to it.” ~ Alexander Herzen
Only a liberal would say something like that.
hey thanks again shell
this is a good site
-conbo
Is that a dijereedoo in Pity & The Fool, dada?
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Transit Guard Is Fatally Shot in Brooklyn
"Is that a dijereedoo in Pity & The Fool, dada?"
Nah, that's my synthesizer. I'm moving one of the levers manually instead of letting it run on automatic, which gives that organic feel to it.
“We have wasted our spirit in the regions of the abstract and general just as the monks let it wither in the world of prayer and contemplation.” Herzen
It's true.
"Enabling" a False Perception: Hugo Chavez, the Press and the "Rule By Decree" Meme in Venezuela
Cool..it sounds like the instrument..how magical...
Hehe...hey gringos!
I'm nationalizing the Venezuelan telecommunications system and hiring goons to rough up my opponents...but...
Hey..."Bush es stupido y malo!"
(There, they'll give me a pass for anything now!)
//Hugo "Presidente-para-Vive" Chavez said... //
please provide some links from a credible news source
i am interested in your viewpoints
not really but finding articles will keep you busy
-conbo
Hugo Chavez is a market distortion!
Socialism is for lovers.
More on the Haliburton Move
Raw Story is reporting that "Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) is calling on the U.S. Treasury to ensure that a controversial Houston-based multinational corporation, Halliburton, is not benefiting financially from the move of its headquarters to the United Arab Emirates".
President Bush v. Hugo Chavez: A Discussion on the State of Politics in Latin America
AMY GOODMAN: What about President Bush's stressing ethanol? How significant is this, making an ethanol deal in Brazil, going to talk about it in Guatemala?
GREG GRANDIN: Yeah, I think this is the substance of the tour. I think the other stuff is really just fluff, as all of a sudden Bush has concern for social justice, that he feels Latin America's pain. I mean, it’s a little -- it's kind of an anemic program that he's offering. In many ways, it's not Chavez that's shadowing Bush, it's Bush that's shadowing Chavez, in terms of these social issues, the programs that he’s offering in terms of housing and education and healthcare -- really minimal.
It's the ethanol, which is key -- ethanol and an attempt to kind of build up an alternative to Chavez in Brazil and in Uruguay. Ethanol is key to that because it solves a number of problems if it actually does advance. One is it clearly creates an alternative to oil, which is the base of Chavez's power. But then, also, in order for the United States to meet its ethanol requirements, the goals that Bush laid out, it's going to have to import most of the ethanol from foreign countries. If it relied just on corn production in the US, it would totally skew and throw off balance the United States's complex food supply system. So it needs to turn to the Americas. So in many ways, when I say that Latin America is a strategic reserve, I’m not using it as a metaphor. It actually is, in terms of raw materials, when the United States is trying to turn Latin America into a supplier of ethanol.
And it's not just Brazil. I think his trip to Guatemala, his including Guatemala in his itinerary, is telling, because Guatemala has one of the most advanced sugar industries in, not just in Central America, but in Latin America. It's very competitive, very productive. And one of the things that has irked Guatemalan sugar producers is the tariffs that the US continues to place on sugar imports from Latin America. This is a way, I think, of trying to kind of consolidate that, the sugar production, but specifically for ethanol and specifically as a way of importing ethanol in order not to throw off balance corn production and raise the price of grain in the United States.
AMY GOODMAN: Greg Grandin, I wanted to ask you, on a slightly separate issue, but this issue of the Salvador Option that is always talked about for Iraq, that includes the very same people, the military officer, Steele, who was in El Salvador in the 1980s, the training of the Green Berets, the secret working with the death squads of El Salvador, and talking about it as an option today in a positive light in Iraq.
GREG GRANDIN: Yeah. Well, I think it's a euphemism for the imperial use of force and repression in order to restore order. The United States could talk all it wants about bringing democracy and meaningful development to the world. But the fact is that when opposition to its ambitions manifests itself, as an empire, as a superpower, it will resort to force and violence, often through proxies. That's the Salvador Option. That's what they mean by the Salvador Option: the use of repressive paramilitaries, repressive mercenaries, in order to establish authority, establish stability in the imperial periphery. And that's what it means, and obviously it comes from El Salvador, a country most closely linked, identified with death squads. But it wasn't just El Salvador. It was Chile and Argentina and Guatemala and many other countries in Latin America that resorted to the use of death squads often with the encouragement or tacit approval of the United States.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
This guy is world famous now.
He made his mark...
New York mugger attacks women 101, 85 - Hindustan Times
Rep. Waxman, the bull dog of the House of Reps, is going after Condi now....
Waxman to Rice: Answer 11 ignored letters on Iraq claims
The Chairman of the House's Oversight and Government Reform Committee today demanded that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice respond to 11 outstanding requests for information sent by his office since 2003. The letters primarily concerned claims later proved erroneous on the threat posed to the United States by Saddam Hussein's government in the run up to the Iraq War.
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) warned Dr. Rice that a failure to respond to his committee's inquiries undermined Constitutional governance.
"Refusing to allow officials to testify before Congress...or ignoring congressional requests for information, as you apparently ignored my inquiries, are not consistent with our constitutional system of government," said the Committee's Chairman in a letter released today.
Waxman's letter stated that he was seeking to learn more about a variety of issues from the Secretary of State, including her "role in the President's false assertion that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger."
LINK
Obvious, but still...
Military action against Iran would backfire on Israel, report warns
Military action against Iran would backfire against Israel, which in turn would face "dire and far-reaching" consequences, a leading British foreign policy think-tank believes.
Chatham House says in a report that it is "widely assumed" that preparations are "well under way" in both America and Israel for military action against targets related to Iran's nuclear programme. The report by Yossi Mekelberg examines the possible responses by Iran, which may retaliate with massive ballistic missile attacks on Israeli cities such as Tel Aviv or Haifa, resulting in "substantial loss of life".
Israel's relations with moderate Arab states would also be harmed, as any military attack would be seen as an offensive against the Muslim world and would fuel Islamic extremism.
"An Israeli military operation against Iran would hurt Israel's long-term interests. It would be detrimental to Israel's overall security and the political and economic consequences would be dire and far-reaching," the report warns.
Israel says the issue of curbing Iran's suspected nuclear weapons programme is a problem for the international community. But it has been made clear by the Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, that if the international community failed to prevent Iran from obtaining a weapon, Israel would take the steps to do so.
While the report describes such a possibility as remote, it says that if diplomatic efforts fail, "the US and Israel would feel that force is justified and might act militarily either together or separately, regardless of international consent. This could have disastrous consequences."
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/12/18375802.php
dada said...
Socialism is for lovers.
March 12, 2007 1:38 PM
The Debate About The Secret
Libya says US to help build nuclear power plant
Published: Monday March 12, 2007
The United States is to help Libya to build a first nuclear power plant under an agreement to be signed soon, the official JANA news agency reported Monday.
The Libyan parliament, the General People's Committee (GPC), gave its approval Sunday for the foreign ministry to sign the deal, JANA said.
"The agreement aims at establishing a nuclear station in Libya to produce electricity, desalting water, and developing the radiochemistry performance at energy research centres," it said in an English-language dispatch.
Libya was long accused by Western governments of seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction.
But in late 2003 Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi renounced all attempts to develop a non-conventional arsenal, clearing the way for the restoration of diplomatic relations with the Unites States in May last year.
LINK
i think a massage table is not one of those things that should be bought used...
but that is me
-conbo
From Missy's blog:
Molten Metal WTC Thermite
US mortgage lender loses credit, sparking fallout fears
Published: Monday March 12, 2007
A major player in the high-risk segment of the US mortgage market said Monday its credit was being cut off, prompting renewed concerns about fallout into the overall financial system.
New Century Financial, the second largest lender of so-called "subprime" mortgages, said all its lenders had cut off or announced their intention to cut off credit.
Shares in New Century, down 90 percent since the start of the year, were suspended on the New York Stock Exchange and other lenders in the sector saw their stocks tumble.
This means the company "will have to declare bankruptcy during the next few days as they have no means of financing," said Fred Dickson, analyst at DA Davidson.
Additionally, the news "could extend concerns from that troubled institution to its lenders," Dickson added.
LINK
Has anyone seen my script?
Is anyone looking for your script?
I was looking for it. I found this: GIJOE: Bazooka saw a Sea Serpent.
Is this your script?
http://www.propadeutic.com/transcripts/bazooka.html
//: GIJOE: Bazooka saw a Sea Serpent.//
LMFAO!!!
-conbo
"Alice said...
The Debate About The Secret "
+++
Sometimes I think that the Will is like a small sailboat on a big ocean in strong winds.
gotta run...
James Carville thinks Jeb Bush will run
-conbo
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
ME Says Victim Found In Far Rockaway Fire Was Murdered
Police Man who posed as cop and raped girls pleads guilty
FLASHBACK: Cheney Once Warned Of ‘Quagmire’ From An Open-Ended Commitment In Iraq »
Today in a speech delivered at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Vice President Cheney assailed Iraq war critics for pursuing “an anti-war strategy that’s been called slow bleed.” Cheney added, “They’re not supporting the troops, they are undermining them.” Watch it:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi attacked Cheney’s remarks, saying, “It is a disservice to our military personnel for President Bush and Vice President Cheney to continue to advocate for an open-ended commitment in Iraq, while brushing aside the advice of military leaders and the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, all of whom argue that the war in Iraq cannot be resolved militarily but only through diplomatic, economic and political means.”
The true “slow bleed” strategy is leaving U.S. troops mired in the middle of an Iraqi civil war. There was a time when Cheney recognized that. On April 7, 1991, appearing on ABC’s This Week, Cheney said:
Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party? Would be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all.
LINK
GOP Sen. to Block Attorney Bill?
By Paul Kiel - March 12, 2007, 11:08 AM
Last Thursday, the administration abruptly dropped its opposition to a bill that would require Senate confirmation for U.S. attorney replacements. But Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) "still intends to object," Roll Call reports (sub. req.).
Just how disruptive that objection will be is up to Kyl. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) intends to bring the legislation up for a vote "as quickly as possible," his spokesman tells Roll Call. By the rules of the Senate, which give individual senators considerable power to stymie legislation, Kyl could gum up the works with his objection, or he could simply sound his disapproval and let the bill come up for a vote.
Kyl has already blocked the bill, authored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), once. Republicans blocked it a second time when Feinstein tried to attach it as an amendment to another bill.
The bill, co-sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), would reverse a change slipped into the colossal PATRIOT Act reauthorization bill in December of 2005, by Specter's chief counsel, Michael O'Neill. Feinstein's bill simply restores the law to the way it was before that change.
Before the change, the attorney general was allowed to appoint replacements for fired or retiring U.S. attorneys, but if the president hadn't nominated someone for Senate confirmation after 120 days, the local federal judge appointed a replacement. The law change removed that 120 day requirement, effectively allowing the administration to install appointments indefinitely without Senate confirmation.
Kyl (and until recently, the administration) has cited separation of power concerns as his objection to Feinstein's bill.
LINK
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Bronx Assisted Living Employee Indicted for Stealing from Residents
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Asian Long-Horned Beetle Threatens Trees On Staten Island
Poll: Americans are worried about global warming. A new Gallup poll finds that a majority of Americans are worried about the effects of global warming, including more powerful hurricanes (69 percent), more common flooding/droughts (67 percent), and rising ocean levels (63 percent). A recent Fox News poll found that 82 percent of Americans believe global warming exists.
LINK
SHADOW VALLEY CONDOMS
If you lived here...
you'd be home by now!
TPM Readers are telling us that on Hardball Andrea Mitchell just said that polls show the public supports a pardon of Scooter Libby. Were you watching Hardball? Did you hear her say that?
Late Update: TPM Reader MK says she TIVOed it and the exact quote was "and appeal to the polling which indicates that most people think, in fact, that he should be pardoned, Scooter Libby should be pardoned." We'll work on confirming that and getting you video. But where'd Andrea hear that? My impression is that that's wildly at odds with the actual polling data. More soon.
Later Update: TPM Reader NA and NG heard it too.
Still Later Update: I'm curious where Mitchell heard her numbers. Maybe the EOP poll? CNN came up with 18% of Americans supporting a pardon and 69% opposing.
-- Josh Marshall
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/012979.php
America has always been a right wing sandbox and one way or the other, it will remain so....at least until it collapses on itself.
This poor, fucked up place is owned and operated by "Death Monkeys." This surge in Iraq is an example of how Death Monkeys operate. These people that are being sacrificed are only being offed because the Death Monkeys have no jobs for them at home and it's much cheaper to kill them off than to have to hospitalize and rehabilitate them.
Rachel Maddow: "Hopefully if anyone ever works at the Air America web department ever again..."
Now it's all falling into place.
I am a prattler myself, crank bait
blah blah blah
nice post
-conbo
The news is going on and on about Hagel's non news story today. Big announcement was what they were saying all weekend. Then finally announcement time came and Hagel is still considering.
Actually I think this is kind of funny. I think he is going to wait to see how things play out. He's got some time yet.
I still think it is a longshot that any republican will be president.
No heroes
March 12th, 2007 by Andreas
http://eskar.dk/andreas/blog/?p=225
...
Unfortunately, Mogensen and de Zengotita’s arguments seem to lead to a fairly cynical outlook on life. As love and hope and other human emotions are no longer original but rather copies to be acted out as if in some method acting workshop, we seem to cease to be human, but rather just mediated copies of copies trapped in some labyrinthine post-modern mirror-reality which even our would-be heroes can do nothing but perpetuate, not only strengthening its grip on us but also making it seemingly impervious to change.
It is this fear that the activist essayist Mogensen quotes is trying to convey: How do you oppose a system so penetrating that even your opposition becomes part of it as well as a struggle to be reported, analyzed, mediated and sold? Would it be better to stop struggling?
Rather than stop, they try other tactics to negate the effects of the system. They adopt DIY ethics for their cultural production. They resist copyright law, distributing text, music and images for free. They present themselves to the media only rarely, and as a group rather than as individuals. They wear black ski masks or pink wigs to disguise their identities like superheroes like Batman, Daredevil or Subcomandante Marcos (heh). They become an outwardly uniform group where all are as one to avoid building anyone up as leaders or heroes, consciously making themselves less mediated, less “real” in order to turn themselves into mythical symbols of the ideals for which they fight.
Those ideals are what Mogensen cynically labels as copies of old passion. But they can also be seen as a rebellious desperation caused by that same lack of passion. It is with such a cry for pure, unmediated human emotion that the activist essay ends:
At times you come close to real feeling. In moments you make a difference. It is enough to make it worth living. It is enough to make you feel human. It is more than most can hope for. So once in a while we throw our hearts through the windows. Because we have to. And at times, they beat.
Yep Andea Mitchel did say the "most people" are for a pardon for Scooter Libby.
Just watched it and heard it with my own ears.
How can she make a comment like that? She is not most people. Maybe they should have called here into testify in the Libby Trial. She's giving sloppy news in her old age. Must be her husband's influence. She is married to Greenspan.
The ideology that we operate under, at its core, is socialism. The Capitalist purists will argue against this point until the cows come home but they will happily transport their goods over a network of highways provided under a collection of tax monies that were (and are) invested in the national highway system.
Bottom Line says..
I have no problem banning people who don't pay taxes from the Highway. They may use secondary and unpaved roads, but must pay taxes to use the highway system.
This would not only reduce congestion, but would also reduce highway maintenance costs. My system would add new emphasis to the old saying, "Get at job!"
Former President Bush has a run in with Reality...
heh
-conbo
I heard Andrea Mitchell make that comment too, about most people wanting Libby pardoned, and I was expecting the other two guys on the panel to comment but David Gregory ended the segment after she spoke. Oh well.
Turns out, Global Warming, could be
real!
Oh well
I will just live out the rest of my days in my air conditioned mansion that I can afford to cool with all my oil money.
bwhahahaha [cough] hahahaha
andrea mitchell is on crack
don't watch TV news
each and every person you see is somehow mentally off
lying, on drugs, idealogues, whatever
all we have is Keith Olberman
-conbo
Get a job....your system would put a hell of a lot of hotels, motels, restaurants, etc. out of business in a New York minute. Are you sure you don't want to rethink that crazy idea of yours.
Too true conbo. We have Keith and Bill Maher, with whom I agree about 90% of the time.
In Iraq, No Room at The Inn for Auditors
By Paul Kiel - March 12, 2007, 4:04 PM
How strained are resources in Iraq? So strained that the State Department can't afford for three auditors to make a three month visit.
The State Department recently turned down a request for three congressional auditors to make a three-month stay in Baghdad, saying that having them around for that long would be "a serious challenge to mission resources."
In response, 22 Senate Democrats, led by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), have called on Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice to make room. "American taxpayers are currently being asked to spend approximately $3,420 every second and $280 million per day in Iraq," reads a letter to Rice sent today. "It is imperative that GAO be given the access it needs to serve as the eyes and ears of the United States Congress...."
But the burden of having those three auditors around would seem almost insurmountable... or at least that's the impression a State Department official gave in a letter to Harkin last week:
"each of [the auditors] would require lodging, extensive support services, security, computers, and other administrative support, as well as the attention of our staff in Baghdad in responding to their requests and inquiries."
You can read the entire letter here. The State Department turned down the GAO's request for a three-month stay, agreeing only to a two-week visit -- although the official pointed out that even that "will place considerable burden on Embassy staff and resources."
In the letter sent to Sec. Rice today, the Democrats didn't buy that argument, asking instead that the State Department make room for a six-month stay for the auditors.
LINK
//your system would put a hell of a lot of hotels, motels, restaurants, etc. out of business in a New York minute. Are you sure you don't want to rethink that crazy idea of yours.//
he should work for Bush
privatize the freeways!
what could go wrong?
-conbo
I like Bill Maher, but he wears too much makeup
-conbo
//your system would put a hell of a lot of hotels, motels, restaurants, etc. out of business in a New York minute. Are you sure you don't want to rethink that crazy idea of yours.//
Bottom line Says -
Your thinking the unemployed, no tax paying, second-class citizen are keeping all those businesses going? I don't think so. Maybe McDonald's!
In addition it would save fuel. If you don't have a job you must obey the secondary road speed limits. Think of all the mom and pop shops you could stop in and see on old route 66!
Get a job and love it or
leave it!
These are the two favorite platitudes of flat earthers.
tolls on the freeway-that would never work
the only way it could work is if the US creates a national public transportation system that is dirt cheap and effective
-conbo
Watching Olbermann...
"Xenu & Mr. King"
hahaha!
If you are so inclined...
The AHA is one of seven organizations that are part of the Secular Coalition of America . Jfs
March 12, 2007
Thank Rep. Pete Stark for acknowledging his nontheism
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Dear Secular Coalition activist,
With your support, we made history today. Rep. Fortney H. "Pete" Stark (D-Calif.) openly self-identifies with the nontheist community. He is the first member of Congress to be on record as not holding a god-belief. For more information please read our press release, linked from our home page announcement: http://www.secular.org/
Please show your support to Rep. Stark. We can only guess what the reaction to this announcement will be from certain communities. It is very important that you, other nontheists and our theist allies, contact Rep. Stark to thank him for his brave and historic decision. See our Action Alert at http://www.secular.org/activism/thank_stark_070312.html for a sample letter and a link to Rep. Stark's e-mail form. Please also share this email with others so that Rep. Stark receives as many positive responses as possible.
Sincerely,
Lori Lipman Brown, Director/Lobbyist
The Secular Coalition for America
http://secular.org
Somehow I got on Chuck Hagel's email list. He just sent me his speech from today with no explanation.
He will not run. I just think he wanted to give it to Bush and his adorers!
Pat Buchanan is on Scarborough ranting again. He's sounding like a grouchy old man! And his voice is worse than ever. Like nails on a chalk board.
"Your thinking the unemployed, no tax paying, second-class citizen are keeping all those businesses going? I don't think so. Maybe McDonald's!
In addition it would save fuel. If you don't have a job you must obey the secondary road speed limits. Think of all the mom and pop shops you could stop in and see on old route 66!"
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That's nonsense. Irrelevent fantasy.
We've been down this road before...
Big corporations use the highways more than anyone. So they should be paying the most taxes.
And it ain't just driving on them. It is eating the food hauled over them, burning the fuel transported over them, reading the mail...
The bottom line says -
Tax paying business adding to the gross national product. It's it the tax payer who supports those roads and those businesses. Your dirt-road drivin, no tax payin, second class citizen is without financial input. I has always been so.
Highways are just one example of how the working man carries the loafers in this world. Your bums got less because they earn less.
Get a Job, you owe it to this country to produce something.
Don't even bother with get a job. He won't listen anyway and he's just being spiteful and moronic and imperialistic.
Course it's people like that that won't go fight in Iraq and scream suppoert the troops with their magnets, but don't give a crap!
By the way, just got another Hagel email with a new web site.
Here it is:
http://www.hagel.tv/test/index.asp
The Democratic majority in Congress is heading toward an Iraq War showdown with George W. Bush over his $105 billlion funding request.
The Democratic leaders want a compromise plan that would phase out a U.S. combat role in Iraq by mid-2008, while Bush is demanding that he be given the money without "strings."
Are Democrats still afraid that Bush can retaliate by blaming them for undermining the troops? Or are American voters so fed up with Bush's war bungling that they'd be angrier if Congress gave Bush another blank check?
For the full story of who should be more worried about a head-to-head clash on Iraq, go to Consortiumnews.com at http://www.consortiumnews.com.
"Highways are just one example of how the working man carries the loafers in this world. Your bums got less because they earn less."
++++
Corporate welfare is the burden on the working man.
Get a Job said...
It's the tax payer who built them roads. Not some redistribution wantin, no tax payin, out of work, livin of the fat of the land fucker who built em. He never built nothin!
And no one is going to pay another dime until he gets a job!
Then you owe me lots of money. I've been paying for those roads for almost 50 years. Get out your checkbook and send the money boy!
You want to stop that war get you ass over there and tell them to stop. You remember the human-shields? Flight leaves tomorrow. Typing on the blog ain't gonna stop nothin. Put a flower in their ak47's.
Bush Pays a Visit to Brazil
...
Washington thus needs a middle-man to mediate its relations with these leaders, and Brazil has been considering this interlocutor role as an avenue to consolidate its hemispheric leadership position.
...
According to the Brazilian Sugar-Cane Union Industry (UNICA), Brazil and the U.S. alone are responsible for 70% of all ethanol produced in the world. The sugar-cane technology used by Brazil can produce ethanol for $0.83/gallon, while production costs for U.S. corn-based ethanol are $1.14/gallon, up to one third more. Therefore, the U.S., to the great annoyance of BrasÃlia, has established protective tariffs at $0.54/gallon for Brazilian ethanol refineries, which are anxious to send their product to the U.S. In spite of this high tariff, of the 3.8 billion liters of ethanol exported by Brazil in 2006, 2 billion went to the United States. With these numbers in mind, President Lula commented on March 5 that “if we’re going to have free trade, let’s have some free trade where we have the opportunity of buying and selling. … The high taxes that the U.S. has imposed on Brazilian ethanol simply make no sense.”
It is important to note that, according to Marco Jank, the president of the Brazilian Institute for International Trade and Negotiations (ICONE), ethanol currently constitutes 40 percent of Brazil’s domestic fuel consumption and the number is rapidly growing. Moreover, the Brazilian domestic market is currently consuming 80 percent of Brazil’s ethanol yield. For Brazilian ethanol producers, it will only be profitable to expand their operations if there is clear indication that ethanol is on its way to becoming a major international commodity. In order for that to happen, Washington would need to seriously promote ethanol consumption in the U.S., which was implied by President Bush in his January 22 State of the Union Address. Also, Washington has not indicated under whose auspices the ethanol mobilization effort would take place. Would the Bush Administration sanction the promotion of ethanol under anything other than the traditional privately owned commercial channels? If public funds are to be used, will Exxon-Mobile win what could be a multi-hundred billion dollar gambit, over some worker-owned credit unit?
...
:NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey toniD,
How are you?
:NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey toniD,
How are you?
Fair NC. A little better than yesterday.
How about you? Doing okay?
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Oops.
Hi Alice,
Didn't see you there :)
Working is the burden of the working person....
Hanging in...
"You want to stop that war get you ass over there and tell them to stop. You remember the human-shields? Flight leaves tomorrow. Typing on the blog ain't gonna stop nothin. Put a flower in their ak47's."
+++++
That's funny. I thought we liberal blogs were making the US lose the war. Undermining morale, emboldening the terrorists. Now we're ineffective.
Make up your mind, flip-flopper.
crystal cave
of the giants
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Crank Bait said...
That said, the Ideologists and the Pragmatists are always in conflict with one another. The Ideologist wants to move toward a theoretically better society and the Pragmatists want to fix whatever is wrong with the current one, piece by piece.
In my opinion, it is inevitable that more Socialism will be blended into our society because more Capitalism is impossible to achieve.
March 12, 2007 3:59 PM
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Crank Bait,
I enjoyed reading both of your earlier posts. I think you make some fine points.
Although I would agree that more socialism is inevitable, I wonder how long it will be before more "blending" occurs.
Unfortunately, the Bush administration has successfully given "government" a worse name. (I believe this is Bush's crowning achievement and his reign is not over yet).
As Americans lose faith and have less confidence in government, there is often a backlash.
Rather than supporting government programs, citizens choose to vote against taxes and funding for essential services which they depend on in our society. There is a "disconnect" with citizens on this point. (I would add that I mutter about this).
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Pragmatists, like myself, smile wryly and mutter to ourselves, "That's socialistic but, more importantly, it's pragmatic."
***************
Good to know that I am not the only one that mutters similar statements.
(Currently, I am muttering about this blog as I attempt to post a comment).
WASH POST: Bush & CEOs Say SEC Has "Too Many Lawyers Who Enforce Rules"
The Washington Post today reports that in recent weeks, "stock markets shuddered because of concerns that risky mortgage loans are cracking the foundation of the housing sector" while "federal grand juries indicted managers who gamed compensation documents to guarantee themselves fat paydays." That has led to the Securities and Exchange Commission's announcement "that it is hunting for evidence of rampant insider trading that cheats average investors." So what, pray tell, is the response from the Bush White House and Corporate America? Pledges to clean up its act? Promises to crackdown on fraud? Absolutely not. Instead, we get CEOs and the Bush administration saying there are too many regulators enforcing the rules.
For the full post, go to:
http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=469CEA71-E0C3-F08F-9C0376D4561B9884
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Oops again.
That anon was me. :)
I'm hanging in toniD...
That's funny. I thought we liberal blogs were making the US lose the war. Undermining morale, emboldening the terrorists. Now we're ineffective.
Make up your mind, flip-flopper.//
That's whole point isn't it? If you want to stop the war, go tell the terrorists, don't waste your time here.
Looks to me like you shot your highway example all full of holes. Looks to me like you need a better socialist ideal.
the "terrorists" are the US government....
"That's whole point isn't it? If you want to stop the war, go tell the terrorists, don't waste your time here."
+++++
But we love war, why would we want to stop it?
"Looks to me like you shot your highway example all full of holes. Looks to me like you need a better socialist ideal."
Ya, the "let the poor ride on dirt roads" idea was a little silly.
Maybe all we need is the department of motor vehicles
:)
Everything else can go by the wayside.
-conbo (i am kidding)
How do you know that the "good" couldn't be (or have been) accomplished in some other than governmentally regulated way?
FEMA could be eliminated and Homeland Security. Neither one of those organizations really accomplish much. While we are it, I think the Pentagon is useless too.
-conbo
And the IRS...did you know the IRS is completey ilegal?
The money they collect goes into a private federal bank...not to pay highways as we all think.
-conbo
Meat me in St. Louis!
Alice said...
How do you know that the "good" couldn't be (or have been) accomplished in some other than governmentally regulated way?
What way Shell?
It all comes back to some form of governing or you would have chaos.
Without rules to live by it would be worse than even Bush could cause. Look at Iraq. The leaders would come forth and coerce and threaten the others to follow.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey conbo,
You ever hear of the Cross Bronx Expressway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Bronx_Expressway
Watch this movie: American Freedom to Fascism
It's about the IRS and how they are ilegal,and how they control society through finaces.
Very good film.
-conbo
I drove on the Cross Bronx a few times.
It sucks.
http://www.nycroads.com/roads/cross-bronx/
Some form maybe Toni...not this form...
Providing for the common defense is not redistribution of wealth or resources. We know what you want. But you have no right to it. And we ain't gonna give it to ya. You can earn it or you can do without.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Dammit that was me again.
Pierce has a letter from the head of the IRS, at the time, explaining how it is a voluntary system and they do their best to get as many people to comply.
The art of subverting the Enlightenment
In the 18th century, a swelling of philosophers, scientists and artists launched the Enlightenment. At its core, they argued that instead of relying on divine revelation, we should closely observe the world around us and base a rational world-view on the empirical evidence we gather. Everything good about our world, such as the miracle of modern medicine, or the birth of human rights movements, comes from this project. The Chapmans' declared aim is an old one, offered by fascists and priests for the past 300 years: to puncture and destroy it.
Jake Chapman has declared that "the Enlightenment project. ... virulently infects the earth". Let's look at an example of how this hatred animates their work.
Francisco Goya was one of the first great artists of the Enlightenment. In 1799, in his famous Caprichos etchings, he caricatured the religious figures who controlled Spain, and he lauded the secular and liberal politicians who fought against them. It was his Enlightenment commitment to showing the unvarnished truth that later made him paint war-scenes as they really were, for the first time. He stripped out the old chivalry and romance; he showed the blood and broken bodies. In 2003, the Chapmans bought some of Goya's original prints - and vandalised them.
Where Goya drew with documentary clarity the agonised victims of war, the Chapmans painted the jeering faces of clowns and puppies over them. "Goya's the artist who represents the kind of expressionistic struggle of the Enlightenment with the ancien regime," Jake Chapman explained, "so it's kind of nice to kick its underbelly."
http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/johann_hari/article2237694.ece
//Providing for the common defense is not redistribution of wealth or resources.//
The hell its not.
We all pay for the Army.
And you know what? Since you won't let me ride on your freeway, I am taking a soldier home from Iraq. I am going to go through the army website and look for one.
And he gets to keep the Uniform... heh heh
-conbo
I am looking for a real good liberal blog ...
... a great liberal blog on the net with lots of bloggers who can give me lots of feedback ... who think before typing and can do that without ^&%$ this and &^%$# that.
This has been my home so far - but I am thinking ahead cause things are changing and most likely for me, too (esp. in the work department).
I checked out a few already, esp. the comment section at the ususal suspects, but nothing grabs me so far ... actually, things looked pretty depressing.
But with all those hundreds of blogs ... has anyone here come across a real good one? If you can recommend a good blog please do. I would appreciate it.
Cause I need I n p u t ;-)
redistribution of wealth//
Now you know you want health care. You know you want college. You know you want housing. You really want a car. You want child care. You want retirement. You want vacations.
What you don't want is work.
"Providing for the common defense is not redistribution of wealth or resources. We know what you want. But you have no right to it. And we ain't gonna give it to ya. You can earn it or you can do without."
++++++++
On US Military Budgets
Noam Chomsky interviewed by Ira Shorr
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/19960211.htm
"the Pentagon system has long been the country's biggest welfare program, transferring massive public funds to high-tech industry on the pretext of defense and security."
Love that quote.
And you know you don't want to pay any taxes. You want the rich to pay your way. Why? Because you're lazy.
Hi bridge...
I hang out here & one other place...a place not fit for the likes of the news junkies...
I invited Ono there...if that tells you anything.. ;-)
Input on what bridge? Everything or something specific?
What you don't want is work.
March 12, 2007 7:55 PM
How do you know?
How do you know what any of us want?
To my knowlegde everyone on this blog has a job.
And you know what...making money is not the most important thing in life.
If I could I would quit my job, stay home with my son
and attend a school specifically geared towards writers. Then I would write a million books about how much you suck.
-conbo
That is a good quote...
Liberal is just another word for freeloader. But try as you will, this country is moving farther toward capitalism and away from your precious communism. Communism is a totally failed system.
Daily show! Heh!
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Crank Bait said...
The "more government is bad" notion is difficult to argue with even though government is the only thing standing between the "people" and powerful/well-funded self interests.
My best (and only) rebuttal to my brother was this: Imagine if no governmental regulation had ever occurred in labor, the automobile industry, banking, education, pollution, etc. Where would we be right now? For all that governance has done wrong, it has done a few things right (or barely so).
March 12, 2007 7:22 PM
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I want to be clear. I support more government programs and I am ready for more blending.
I would say the government has done many things right (although citizen activism and social movements have often been the catalyst for the establishment of government programs).
Citizens “take for granted” government services. They are just part of every day life in America.
Of course, citizens notice when the government fails (for example, the response to Katrina).
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
High Bridge...
http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/HIGH%20BRIDGE/highbr.html
I would say the people directly participating in their own 'governing' could accomplish more than any Selected, non-representative-to-all-but-the-richest government can.
Ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture
Renowned environmentalist Dr. David Suzuki has stated: "What permaculturists are doing is the most important activity that any group is doing on the planet."
Alice said...
Hi bridge...
I hang out here & one other place...a place not fit for the likes of the news junkies...
I invited Ono there...if that tells you anything.. ;-)
March 12, 2007 7:58 PM
Hey man,
(rubs nose on sleeve in a nodding droopy eyed stupor with slurred speech..)
I know what you mean man.. :)
Alice said...
Hi bridge...
I hang out here & one other place...a place not fit for the likes of the news junkies...
I invited Ono there...if that tells you anything.. ;-)
March 12, 2007 7:58 PM
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey man,
(rubs nose on sleeve in a nodding droopy eyed stupor with slurred speech..)
I know what you mean man.. :)
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/
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Crank Bait said...
Ambulance Driver: "How much tax money have you contributed to the state and federal highway systems, how many miles have you travelled on them, and how many goods and services have you availed yourself of that have also utilized said highways?
March 12, 2007 6:00 PM
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Hey! Where did you find an ambulance?
Since emergency services are funded by taxes, I would not be counting on ambulances or drivers.
Of course, you are probably one of the high falutin' few who has connections with some corrupt contractor. (They will allow you to ride in an ambulance for an undisclosed fee).
By the way, where is the ambulance going?
Have you paid for reservations at a private hospital in advance? You would not be counting on a hospital supported by the government, would you?
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Hey man,
(rubs nose on sleeve in a nodding droopy eyed stupor with slurred speech..)
I know what you mean man.. :)
March 12, 2007 8:18 PM
Oh Ha Ha Ha.....at least I appear somewhat sober in that bunch... 8-)
They talk about politics too..but with a different perspective generally speaking...
Doesn't matter anyway...all paths are the same...leading nowhere..
:)
Road To Nowhere, Talking Heads
oh, FFS! n.c.
why are you littering the blog with
====================
Anonymous said...
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Dammit that was me again.
March 12, 2007 7:44 PM
====================
(your crime articles are bad enough)
put your nic at the top
"My best (and only) rebuttal to my brother was this: Imagine if no governmental regulation had ever occurred in labor, the automobile industry, banking, education, pollution, etc. Where would we be right now?
For all that governance has done wrong, it has done a few things right (or barely so).
To claim that we need LESS of it is to accept that we will lose as much of the good it could have done as well as the bad."
++++++
Crank, you sound like Chomsky there:
"Sometimes there is a more illegitimate institution which will take over if you do not support this illegitimate institution. So, if you're concerned with people, let's be concrete, let's take the United States. There is a state sector that does awful things, but it also happens to do some good things. As a result of centuries of extensive popular struggle there is a minimal welfare system that provides support for poor mothers and children. That's under attack in an effort to minimize the state."
"If you care about the question of whether seven-year-old children have food to eat, you'll support the state sector at this point, recognizing that in the long term it's illegitimate. I know alot of people find that hard to deal with and personally I'm under constant critique from the left for not being principled. Principle to them means opposing the state sector, even though opposing the state sector at this conjuncture means placing power into the hands of private totalitarian organizations who would be delighted to see children starve. I think we have to be able to keep those ideas in our heads if we want to think constructively aout the problems of the future. In fact, protecting the state sector today is a step towards abolishing the state because it maintains a public arena in which people can participate, and organize, and affect policy, and so on, though in limited ways. If that's removed, we'd go back to a dictatorship or say a private dictatorship, but that's hardly a step towards liberation."
Why Crank, you old anarchist....
hey, waits
a favour, please
see if you can grab an mp3 of the j&m chains "here comes alice"
(gratsi)
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
"I Can't Get Started" Billie Holiday 1938 02:46
Hey ono...some guy named Leonard was here today and said to tell you that you're a dipshit and that he's better looking than you!
Ono... He's hideous...but you can't look away.... :)
i'd love to get my hands on you, arsehole
March 12, 2007 8:55 PM
would you "pluck his eyes out?"
Kramer trivia
Q: What would Kramer name a kid if he had one?
Isosceles Kramer.
just dropping by for afew
(to unload my bad mood on afew)
: )
WHIP!
ME!
JESUS!
Some of Kramer "schemes"
- Importing "Cubans" to roll cigars
LOL! @ //would you "pluck his eyes out?"//
the 24/7 arsehole...
LOL
(puke!)
toniD,
I am looking for a site where bloggers are not so agenda-driven and consequently rude and crude (like, for instance, at dkos, HuffPost, and especially Steve Gilliard (Yikes!)... those I checked out so far and a few others) and can discuss politics and the social and cultural stuff without immediately falling into the deep morass of bias.
Where bloggers are serious (not easy to find on the internet IMO) and appreciate a lengthy comment, analysis, even a rant - and will respond by adding something new to the discussion. Thats what I am looking for really.
I know from experience - all the way back in the 90s when I stumbled on my first blog on the net - it all depends on the webowner.
---
thanks, Shells,
you have given me plenty of input so far :)
"protecting the state sector today is a step towards abolishing the state because it maintains a public arena in which people can participate, and organize, and affect policy, and so on, though in limited ways."
What could be more liberal than that?
I heard Chomsky say that....I wasn't sure then & not sure now ...
--though in limited ways.--
to me that's a BIG point..I'm not so sure that 'the state' provides those things in a limited ways..I think they sure like us to believe that they do...
--dkos, HuffPost, and especially Steve Gilliard--
If they aren't nice enough for you in those places...hmm....
I know a place where they're non crude and non rude...I'm not sure if they have poltical talks but I would bet there is a pod for that sort of talk there...
http://www.zaadz.com/
///same old wine from a brand new bottle.....///
a moment's silence if you please:
Well we know where we're goin'
But we don't know where we've been
And we know what we're knowin'
But we can't say what we've seen
And were not little children
And we know what we want
And the future is certain
Give us time to work it out
(clip-clop)
Here we go
Every blog has some dork that calls people assholes and tells them how he'd like to get his hands on them.
It's endemic, all over the web.
Vague threats coupled with angry rhetoric. Common stuff.
"I'm Getting Sentimental Over You" Thelonious Monk Quartet 1963 07:29
Thelonious Monk Quartet
Charlie Rouse (ts) Thelonious Monk (p)
John Ore (b) Frankie Dunlop (d)
Paris, France, March 9, 1963
"spinning is easier than turning at any rate....."
It should have said..*Even in limited ways//*
Night all. Work tomorrow.
Later
bridge,
would there be a seat at the table for me
if i toned down my excesses
: )
(as long as i don't have to sit next to burping shell)
I like ono...whoever it is..there's a spark of life there...I gotta love that.... :)
No joy, ono. I'll keep looking, though.
---
bridge, as far as I know there is no place where you can discuss politics in a vacuum. I'm sorry you don't like swearing, but swearing on political blogs is a fact of life. I also take exception to your recent characterization of the kos folks as "borgs". The fact that many of us use potty language, and don't support Senator Clinton's candidacy in no way indicates some sort of groupthink.
Good night, Toni.... xoxo
to //I gotta love that//
as i've gotta love you
: )
2
Night, toniD.
no drama, waits
it's not for my benefit...
(i got mine, jack)
it's for you guys
Ono's OK. He's a reactionary and easy to fish, but he does have a good sense of humor and is threatening to the trolls. That's a good thing.
"I would say the government has done many things right (although citizen activism and social movements have often been the catalyst for the establishment of government programs)."
I think you're right. Reminds me of a quote: "Political rights do not originate in parliaments; they are rather forced upon them from without..." - Rudolf Rocker
I'm willing to admit that I could be biased, bridge. Making top comments twice in my first week of comments could easily color my judgment about kos.
: )
Anonymous said...
Ono's OK. He's a reactionary and easy to fish, but he does have a good sense of humor and is threatening to the trolls. That's a good thing.
March 12, 2007 9:23 PM
Yeah, if you like Dice Clay, circa 1983!
I think you're right. Reminds me of a quote: "Political rights do not originate in parliaments; they are rather forced upon them from without..." - Rudolf Rocker
March 12, 2007 9:23 PM
Yes. That's what I think of...too...then they toss a bread crumb...
[to the good fairy anon]
that's because i don't mince words
if you're an a-hole,
you get called that
it has very little to do with me
: )
Searching the Heavens for Answers
This is one of the po-dunk newsthingies in this town..the one who had the oil series last year....My friend at work said the editor wrote this article to "appeal to a younger readership".... why would young people be associated with ufo's I wondered....?
"Liberal is just another word for freeloader. But try as you will, this country is moving farther toward capitalism and away from your precious communism. Communism is a totally failed system."
Are liberal and capitalist mutually exclusive terms?
I don't know, there are some pretty wealthy liberals out there. Liberal capitalists, in fact. The scourge of the seven seas.
Everyone hates liberal capitalists, even the commies.
I think the trolls little pea-brain just exploded.
to //Yeah, if you like Dice Clay, circa 1983!//
i've got more strings to my bow than that, arsehole
but if that's what's stuck in your tiny frightened brain...
so be it
Alice said...
--dkos, HuffPost, and especially Steve Gilliard--
---
Its not about nice. They all have an agenda as big as KingKong. HuffPost's censorship is a disgrace.
wfc,
its not about discussing in a vacuum, its not about swearing. Does my question sound like I wish to blog in a vacuum? READ, please!
You are projecting because certain things rub you the wrong way. I don't like dkos particularly and con't care for Markos Moulitsas at all. So there. I am not the only one. Not by a long shot.
But If you are a kos fan, good for you. The blogger majority there are kos borgs and thats a fact. And it has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton, for heaven's sake. There, You are projecting, again.
ok - forget it, everyone ...
Just thought I ask. Gave it a try ...
byebye
and have a lovely evening ...
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
I've got to get some rest.
bridge said...
Alice said...
--dkos, HuffPost, and especially Steve Gilliard--
---
Its not about nice. They all have an agenda as big as KingKong. HuffPost's censorship is a disgrace.
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Ooooh..ok an agenda...well...still..I really think you might like zaads.org - even thought their agenda may revolve around connect grow & inspire ..I think there must political talk there...but yes they have that agenda I guess..But still you know...I there are a lot of people there so maybe they don't all act all 'connecty, growish & inspirey'...?
Now I have myself curious...I'll go see what I find, bridge...I know how you feel wanting to like where you are.. brb..
dada said...
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"The Politics of Naming: Genocide, Civil War, Insurgency"
by Mahmood Mamdani
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n05/mamd01_.html
I may be misunderstanding here, but I think the author of that article agrees with you. The next sentence after the above excerpt is:
"That lesson is inscribed at the heart of Samantha Power’s book, A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide. But it is the wrong lesson."
March 10, 2007 5:17 PM
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Dada,
Although I didn't mention it earlier, thanks for posting this thought-provoking article.
I appreciate your feedback. I'll elaborate on my earlier post. I welcome any additional comments.
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I generally disagree with this article for several reasons. I read Power's book. That is not the lesson inscribed at the heart of the book. For the record, I strongly agree with Power and recommend her book. (More on that later in my posts).
The author of the article spends a considerable amount of time on semantics.
I believe that the author attempts to obscure the definitions of genocide and ethnic cleansing in order to invalidate their application (because he does not agree with international law in this instance and/or he does not understand/agree with the definitions under international law).
I would agree with him that the language is not applied uniformly and is misapplied.
The hypocrisy is noted especially with the U.S. Let me say here that I agree with international law.
(see post #2)
http://search.zaadz.com/for/politics
Hey! I hope you see this, bridge...
how have you contributed here
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have you put up an interesting article to read
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have you received a "lol"
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have you directed us to a pretty picture
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music
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NO!
you're nowhere
Good night, NC.. xoxo :)
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I didn't care for zaadz because no matter what, I don't care for being sorted out...I like it here & the other place I go because everyone is in one place...no matter what...But there you can ignore people & do some of the things people want to do here...but I don't use the ignore...& sometimes I've really wanted to use it here...but I wouldn't even if I could...
Fun quotes. 'On democracy'
http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_democracy.html
Here's a quote from the Uncyclopedia entry on Democracy:
"Like all great religions, Democracy is an opiate of the masses, and channels potentially violent reactions to public corruption into the socially harmless practice of voting, whereby the adherent achieves the mental satisfaction of addressing problems in the nation's leadership and public policy without actually having to harm or even replace any public officials or bureaucrats."
I got a kick out of that.
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