Thursday, March 15, 2007

Thursday Thread

Good morning, all!

Today on the show: Larry Johnson, former CIA official, on the upcoming hearings on the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame.



This hour, we'll air the one-minute Sam Seder Show rant that YearlyKos auctioned off on eBay last month. What's our winning bidder going to say? Will it be worth $720?

Find out more about the YearlyKos Convention! (Better yet ... go!)

UPDATE: Here's the transcript of the rant that we just aired.

In August of 2006, 9/11 family members released a statement questioning the "entire veracity" of the 9/11 Commission report. [1]

In September of 2006, a documentary entitled "9/11: Press For Truth" was released, and family members at the National Press Club called for a new investigation into the events of 9/11. [2]

In October of 2006 a New York Times poll found that only 16 percent of Americans believe the Bush administration is telling the truth about 9/11. [3]

NONE of these stories were covered by the so called 'progressive media'.

(It is time for the 'progressive media' to start covering these stories.)

It is time to stop pretending that the very basis of the so-called 'war on terror' is the ONLY subject that the Bush administration has NOT lied about.

Please visit 911pressfortruth.com, google video, or netflix.com for more information on 9/11: Press For Truth. And visit patriotsquestion911.com, or wtc7.net to start researching 9/11 today.

This is Michael Woolsey of visibility911.com on behalf of 911blogger.com, thank you for your time.

================================================================================================================

References:
[1] http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Group_of_widows_claim_911_Independent_0804.html
[2] http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=167
[3] http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/13469


OK. Discuss.

206 comments:

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Not Sam said...

Welcome

toniD said...

Morning Sam and Crew!!

toniD said...

Bush again rejects decent
health care for all Americans
The Bush administration on Wednesday rejected key recommendations from a citizens' group asked by Congress to find out people's health care wishes.


LINK

toniD said...

Al Qaeda suspect said to have freely admitted organizing 9/11
Al Qaeda suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has claimed he organized the September 11 attacks on the United States and a string of others, according to the transcript of a military hearing at the U.S. detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, released on Wednesday.

LINK

Don't know what to think about this. Is it boasting? Was it a torture induced confession? Or is it the truth?

air-ono said...

(the preface)
v
our blog is a charming little cafe
^v
a strange interlude
^

(excuse me for getting mawkish)

blah blah blah said...

morning toniD, sammy and crew and any of the rest of you out of touch hostile haters.

(from last nights blog:

Nancy said...
Liberal Flow said...

Associated Press said...
Associated Press reports:

The almost invisible backup Sam Seder comment blog is now down to only 17 people reading/posting on it due to no one being able to enable comments on the regular blog and that it has an extremely long impossible to remember URL of:

https://www2.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1260223047421551014&postID=3849743956379219346

-

That is funny and also is a sad fact.

This blog be fucked up and has been for a very very very long time!

March 14, 2007 5:34 PM

I wouldn't sweat it liberal flow. There hasn't been anything worth reading here since early 2006. There is only 2 or 3 rational common sense posters left with the rest being very lazy out of touch hostile haters. Almost all the old regulars have left long ago. The very small comment blog that is left is only a microscopic shadow of what it used to be over a year ago.

Sad but true.

)

toniD said...

Dingell: FCC not
a 'legislative body'
The chairman of a congressional panel that oversees the Federal Communications Commission accused the agency of overstepping its authority in approving an order meant to create more competition in cable television.

LINK

air-ono said...

sam!, if you give a damn!

can you find out the i.p. of the vermin who posted this:
=================
blasphemer said...
C**t
[the astericks are mine]
March 14, 2007 4:04 PM
====================
and promptly ban them

i suspect it's the same vermin responsible for launching the socket-puppet hour,
between 5:30PM--6:30PM, March 14, 2007

and it stole wfc's nic in the process.

i also suspect it posts as leonard, mumphrey, he said/she said, the pious vermin that berates me for threatening to pluck "who-knows" eyes out, and a whole host of vermin that continually undermine the blog

(ty)

p.s. remember...
only if you give a damn

oops! i forgot...
you don't!

(fuck you)

air-ono said...

(a tirade in a mini-skirt)

there's no point asking you to inform us when the "official" blog will be operational...

the lipservice you pay the bloggers is contemptible.

yes,
i'm fully prepared to be banished from the blog.
so here's my:
KISS GOODBYE
(woo-hoo)

(like crosses in the sky)

blah blah blah said...

toniD said:

Don't know what to think about this. Is it boasting? Was it a torture induced confession? Or is it the truth?

when you consider who is tell us this, their need for some "good" news, and considering that the only thing he didn't confess too was the lindbergh baby i don't place too much credibility in it.

toniD said...

Housing woes deepen in
US industrial heartland
Job losses in the U.S. industrial heartland have left states like Michigan and Ohio more vulnerable to mortgage defaults, as home finance costs rise amid often moribund real-estate markets.

LINK

air-ono said...

bravo (not), blah blah blah

for reposting a whiney trolls post

Anonymous said...

Anyone else having streaming problems this morning? Could someone link to an alternate source to stream Sam live?

air-ono said...

i can't believe how fucking stupid some people are

air-ono said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone else having streaming problems this morning? Could someone link to an alternate source to stream Sam live?

March 15, 2007 6:14 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
is this legit?

(who fucking knows)

toniD said...

Here's the WWRL Stream. Please save to favorites!

Go to link and click on listen live:

http://www.wwrl1600.com/

blah blah blah said...

sorry air-ono, i got caught up in my hostile hate...

georgia said...

no stream, no cam, what's going on?

crunchyknee said...

Why is it that every time chimpy leaves the USA he acts like a tourist from Kansas?

Oh never mind, that's right, he's Bush.

:ugh:

Sam the Sham said...

Think Seder will mention this?....or keep talking Gonzales and Giuliani like a good party thrall?

By MICHAEL R. GORDON and PATRICK HEALY---NY Times

WASHINGTON, March 14 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission” in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.

In a half-hour interview on Tuesday in her Senate office, Mrs. Clinton said the scaled-down American military force that she would maintain would stay off the streets in Baghdad and would no longer try to protect Iraqis from sectarian violence — even if it descended into ethnic cleansing.

In outlining how she would handle Iraq as commander in chief, Mrs. Clinton articulated a more nuanced position than the one she has provided at her campaign events, where she has backed the goal of “bringing the troops home.”

She said in the interview that there were “remaining vital national security interests in Iraq” that would require a continuing deployment of American troops.

The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state “that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda,” she said. “It is right in the heart of the oil region,” she said. “It is directly in opposition to our interests, to the interests of regimes, to Israel’s interests.”

“So it will be up to me to try to figure out how to protect those national security interests and continue to take our troops out of this urban warfare, which I think is a loser,” Mrs. Clinton added. She declined to estimate the number of American troops she would keep in Iraq, saying she would draw on the advice of military officers.

blah blah blah said...

on the economic front producers price index came in higher than expected and ny empire state index plunged to the lowest reading since may 2005. any bullish bets for the market have been squashed.

toniD said...

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has turned down requests from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to testify on the Valerie Plame leak case. Fitzgerald said he did “not believe it would be appropriate for me to offer opinions…about the ultimate responsibility of senior White House officials for the disclosure of Ms. Wilson’s identity.”

LINK

crunchyknee said...

...almost forgot...

Good morning, all you "very lazy out of touch hostile haters."

:-)

Anonymous said...

Thanks Tonid, Sam beats anything on TV right now.

toniD said...

Al Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed claimed “responsibility for the 9/11 operation from A to Z,” according to 26 pages of transcripts released from Gitmo by the Pentagon yesterday. Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, said, “We need to know if this purported confession would be enough to convict him at a fair trial or would it have to be suppressed as the fruit of torture?”

LINK

DisNoir36 said...

Sam you're missing the bigger picture. Not only is the Bush admin looking to divert our attention from the bozo Gonzo, but they're doing a pre-emptive strike against the Plame and Wax show tomorrow. Valerie Plame is going in front of Henry Waxman to testify on her outing. You can bet your Susan B. Anthony dollar that the last thing they want is the Sunday talk shows discussing Valerie's outing.

web_geek said...

Mornin'!

toniD said...

With bipartisan support, the House passed three bills that would “roll back administration efforts to shield its workings from public view.” The measures would “streamline access to records in presidential libraries, expand safeguards for government whistle-blowers, and strengthen the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).”

LINK

georgia said...

tonid - re:fcc

you mean activist chairmen can't legislate from the chair?

don't you know that powers aren't separate when the executive fails to separate them

georgia said...

just ask Brett Tollman and Micahel O'Neill

georgia said...

or Andrew von Eschenbach, for that matter (federal drug labeling preempting state tort law)

Anonymous said...

MOTHERFUCKER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DONT BELIEVE ALBERTO GONZALEZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIAR

HE SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

STUPID DAMN GUY SMIRKING STEP AND FETCHIT LACKEY BIOTCH!!!!!


FUCK GONZALEZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

toniD said...

Subpoena vote set for tomorrow. “The Senate Judiciary Committee is set to vote Thursday on whether to authorize subpoenas to 14 current and former administration officials,” including Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, former Gonzales aide Kyle Sampson. “Since Rove, Miers and Kelley were just added to the schedule for Thursday’s committee meeting, panel rules allow any member to postpone consideration of the subpoenas for one week.” Will any senator give cover to Rove and Miers?

LINK

georgia said...

2 lawyers that Gonzo took from the white house coordinated the response to the Plame case...

any connection?

ask larry please...

Joe Lieberman (ID-CT) said...

toniD said...

Will any senator give cover to Rove and Miers?

LINK

March 15, 2007 6:34 AM


Absolutely not!.....maybe

Jonny at the Cape said...

How long until Hannity, O'Reilly, and the rest of the influential pundits start floating the idea that Democrats and liberals are racist hypocrites for going after Gonzo because he's Hispanic? They've done it nearly every time there's been opposition to a minority cabinet or judicial nominee, so why not now?

After all, if you oppose a Latino, it must be because of his race, right?

Anonymous said...

he is THE WORST hispanic on the planet.............

helping Nazi Bush to fuck hispanics in the ass day after day , year after year.

That smarmy scumbag must do hard time in federal prison for 20 years for his crimes.

toniD said...

White House officials using RNC email accounts? From Dan Froomkin:

One curious aspect of yesterday’s document dump is that it shows e-mails from J. Scott Jennings, who is Karl Rove’s deputy at the White House, coming from an e-mail address at gwb43.com — a domain owned by the Republican National Committee.

It makes some sense that White House officials might have and use such accounts when they conduct party business, rather than White House business. But the distinction between party and government business seems to have been forgotten here — which I guess is exactly the point.

Eggen and Kane write in The Post: “Democratic congressional aides said they will investigate whether using the private address for government business violated laws against using taxpayer resources for political work or signaled that White House officials considered the firing of U.S. attorneys to be primarily a political issue. Jennings did not return a call to his office seeking a comment.

“‘As a matter of course, the RNC provides server space and equipment to certain White House personnel in order to assist them with their political efforts,’ RNC spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt said.”

LINK

air-ono said...

eh!
i was fuming at the time, blah

and your post came right on top

and a badda-bing!

Anonymous said...

Did anyone hear Rick Overton on The Young Turks this morning? I haven't heard the whole show yet, but what I heard was great. He is a natural at this. Great work Rick.

Hypo Crites said...

Jonny at the Cape said...

How long until Hannity, O'Reilly, and the rest of the influential pundits start floating the idea that Democrats and liberals are racist hypocrites for going after Gonzo because he's Hispanic?

March 15, 2007 6:42 AM

Why not? Remember the ONLY reason people could POSSIBLY oppose Janet Reno, Lani Guinier, Hillary, Ron Brown, Madeline Albright, Bill Richardson, etc.....according to the Left back in the 90s was...racism, sexism, etc.

Seems to work.

Jenise said...

good morning.

Did you know that President Bush wants to cut international family planning and reproductive health aid by 25% in 2008?

Tell Congress to say NO to this deadly budget cut, and restore this critical funding for women's reproductive health funding.

Despite the fact that more than half a million women and girls in the developing nations die from pregnancy-related causes, the United States only gave $435.5 million in 2006 to these countries to provide for reproductive health care for poor women. For every woman or girl who dies, 20 more suffer from serious disease, disability, or physical damage caused by complications of pregnancy and childbirth, and lack of adequate health care. Most of these deaths and injuries are preventable and/or treatable.

bibimimi troll'p said...

I love Larry Johnson.

He's SO pissed and he's SO RIGHT!

bibimimi troll'p said...

After all, if you oppose a Latino, it must be because of his race, right?

March 15, 2007 6:42 AM

uh, hmmmm...

Jenise said...

Iraqis place hope in local politics

"Iraqis have tried kings, communists, Arab nationalists,
dictators and now Islamists," says an Iraqi analyst in Ali
al-Fadhily's report, "but have never found a system that
could tap the huge potential of Iraq in a way that
fulfills people's hopes for a developed and safe country."
In this piece, Fadhily presents a brief history of Iraqi
politics since the fall of Saddam Hussein and traces a
power-shift in Iraq from national to local politics.

http://electroniciraq.net/news/2950.shtml

georgia said...

didn't bush support Gonzo yesterday?

wouldn't that make him gone today?

toniD said...

georgia said...
didn't bush support Gonzo yesterday?

wouldn't that make him gone today?

March 15, 2007 7:18 AM

It was kind of support, but Bush did admit mistakes were made. He just didn't say who made the mistakes.

Jenise said...

if you're in southern CA...

The 6th Annual Amnesty International Southern California Mini-Conference

Saturday, March 31 - 9:00 a.m. - 5:30 p.m.
California State University
Fullerton Campus


Admission is FREE!

Featured speakers:
• Lydia Cacho, Mexican investigative journalist and winner of the 2007 Ginetta Sagan Fund Award
• David Berger , co-author of Amnesty International's report on life in prison without parole for juveniles
•Ali Azizi, former AIUSA Board Member, who will report on his A.I. missions to Yemen


Workshops:
• The U.S. Prison at Guantanamo Bay
• Introduction to Amnesty International
• A.I. International Council Meeting (ICM) Issues and Resolutions
• Stop Violence Against Women
• Juveniles in the Justice System
• Shi Tao: Western Region Special Focus Case Prisoner, imprisoned in China for sending an email
• The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

bibimimi troll'p said...

is larry johnsonn still on ed's 'schultz shitz list'?

toniD said...

Senator Clinton: If elected president, we will stay in Iraq RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday March 14, 2007

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"Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission” in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced but significant military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military," reports the New York Times.

Clinton said a "scaled-down American military force" would stay in Iraq but off the streets of Baghdad. The force would also not get involved in sectarian violence "even if it descended into ethnic cleansing," writes Michael Gordon and Patrick Healy.

Excerpts follow:

LINK

Anonymous said...

Does anybody else realize how AAR and sam are running

15 more commercials an hour.

sam now talks half as much as commericial time.

Johnny Lib said...

I think Joel's timing, three weeks, is close on the Gonzo Watch pool but I liked Christy Harvey's idea yesterday that it would be on a "News-Dump" Friday.

So I propose Good Friday, April 6th as the day the Gonzo's gonzo.
A Friday, and for a lot of people, a holiday as well.

Jenise said...

i think HR drinks a lot.

Anonymous said...

Jenise said...
i think HR drinks a lot.



his time here is limited

let him drink


tic toc HR

toniD said...

Edwards' Campaign Headquarters In N.C. Evacuated

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- A white powder found in a letter at the campaign headquarters of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards came back negative.

Edwards' deputy campaign manager Jonathan Prince released a statement this morning saying the Chapel Hill office is reopening.

The offices were evacuated yesterday after a staff member opened the letter and found the powder. Campaign employees worked from home.

White powder in letters has been associated with anthrax after an attack in 2001 killed five people and sickened 17. The substance was mailed to lawmakers on Capitol Hill and members of the news media in New York and Florida just weeks after the September 11th terrorist attacks.

LINK

toniD said...

Anonymous said...
Does anybody else realize how AAR and sam are running

15 more commercials an hour.

sam now talks half as much as commericial time.

March 15, 2007 7:25 AM

One thing is, that's good, they are getting advertisining.

Second thing is, if you are listening to the WWRL stream you are now hearing all the comercials instead of the bumper music.

Anonymous said...

I can't stream the show. Did AAR decrease their bandwidth? Does anyone know of any alternate streams?

Smartyman

iffy said...

Caroline Myss: What ultimately I have hope in, as I talk to people about this mystical renaissance that we are in the midst of right now, is that people are being called, just like they were in the old days of the classic mystics who were called into monasteries. They difference is these individuals are not meant to be recluses mystics without monasteries. They are being called to fall in love with God in an impassioned way wherever they are and they are given a ferocious appetite to discover that power of prayer, to discover that force to hold a door open and watch that simple act of respect give a man back his will to live. Nothing is more profound than to awaken your power to channel grace at a distance and know that the grace that flows through you is a source of healing. That they can access what the mystics did, that they can become a vessel of transformation through the power of their soul that is what the journey of illumination within one's Castle is all about. That's when a person discovers for the first time what the real meaning is of knowing he or she was truly born for a higher purpose. That higher purpose has to do with a Divine calling and not an earthly occupation. Therein lies the seduction of God.

********

Anonymous said...

The important thing to remember on the Gonzo issue is that the administration was avoiding any Congressional oversight by USING THE EMERGENCY POWERS to replace attorneys general WHEN NECESSARY in the Patriot Act for POLITICAL PURPOSES. Yes, W had the right to fire AGs, even though this rarely, rarely happens EXCEPT AT THE BEGINNING OF A NEW ADMINISTRATION. This is yet another example of the abuse of executive power in the name of national security to undermine the Legislative and Judicial powers vested by our Constitution to balance the threat of an imperial presidency. This is why it stinks to high heaven. This is a high crime and at the very least misdemeanor because of the lies told to Congress. Watch, they'll be more! Gotta love e-mail. It keeps track of those high crimes and misdemeanors!

Deb Givens, Esq.

Colacch5 said...

Matrix: A system of control by the negative entities that keeps man attached to planet earth. Part of a necessary component to the workings of the universe. The majority of humans remain on planet earth only those with an iron will will leave. Tags such as liberal and conservative are therefore meaningless. Capella.

Jenise said...

As scandal after scandal emerges, each one shedding new light on the Bush administration’s abuse of power, violations of Americans’ civil liberties and contempt for the Constitution, People For the American Way is calling for the resignation or removal of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as the first step in holding the White House and Department of Justice accountable to the rule of law.

Please sign our petition calling on congressional leaders to demand the resignation or removal of Attorney General Gonzales now

jonny at the cape said...

Does anyone else see the CONtradiction?

Bill Clinton = Antichrist
"It's okay 'cuz CLINTON DID IT TOO!"

toniD said...

Sen. Leahy says he'll subpoena Rove over growing US Attorney scandal Mike Sheehan
Published: Thursday March 15, 2007

Powerful Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) says he will subpoena presidential adviser Karl Rove to answer questions about the growing U.S. Attorney dismissal scandal enveloping the White House.

Leahy said he will issue the subpoena if Rove doesn't agree to appear first, reports CNN. "He can appear voluntarily if he wants," Leahy told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "If he doesn't, I will subpoena him."

The Vermont senator also told embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who mulled whether to allow "some staff people or lower level people" to testify, that it wasn't his decision. "It's mine and the committee's," Leahy said, per CNN.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, which Leahy chairs, will vote today on whether to authorize the subpoenas to Rove and 13 other current and former officials in the Bush administration, 'The Politico' reports.

Crooks & Liars has video of Leahy's subpoena discussion on CNN at this link.

LINK

Anonymous said...

WWRL Thank You!

Nevermind!

Smartyman

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Officer Shot in Gun Battle in Harlem

Officer Recovering After Being Slashed During Subway Platform Struggle

Clashes Underscore Danger of Police Work

4 Dead in Greenwich Village Shootout 2 Volunteer Police, 2 Others Die in Shootouts in NYC's Crowded Greenwich Village

CeeCee said...

There is a God! Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Officer Shot in Gun Battle in Harlem

Officer Recovering After Being Slashed During Subway Platform Struggle

Clashes Underscore Danger of Police Work

4 Dead in Greenwich Village Shootout 2 Volunteer Police, 2 Others Die in Shootouts in NYC's Crowded Greenwich Village

March 15, 2007 7:40 AM


hahaha

cops dont like it when they get shot huh?

awww too bad.



i laff.


maybe they'll think about that next time they shoot 50 holes in an unarmed person.

toniD said...

Statements On Firings of Prosecutors Are Key Issue

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 15, 2007; A01



In testimony on Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Justice Department had no intention of avoiding Senate input on the hiring of U.S. attorneys.

Just a month earlier, D. Kyle Sampson, who was then Gonzales's chief of staff, laid out a plan to do just that. In an e-mail, he detailed a strategy for evading Arkansas Democrats in installing Tim Griffin, a former GOP operative and protege of presidential adviser Karl Rove, as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock.

"We should gum this to death," Sampson wrote to a White House aide on Dec. 19. "[A]sk the senators to give Tim a chance . . . then we can tell them we'll look for other candidates, ask them for recommendations, evaluate the recommendations, interview their candidates, and otherwise run out the clock. All of this should be done in 'good faith,' of course."

The conflict between documents released this week and previous administration statements is quickly becoming the central issue for lawmakers who are angry about the way Gonzales and his aides handled the coordinated firings of eight U.S. attorneys last year.

Democrats and Republicans are demanding to know whether Gonzales, Deputy Attorney General Paul J. McNulty and other Justice officials misled them in sworn testimony over the past two months. Yesterday, Republican Sen. John E. Sununu (N.H.) joined a handful of Democrats in calling on President Bush to fire his attorney general and longtime friend.

Gonzales has declined to address the apparent contradictions in detail, saying only that he was unaware of the specifics of the plan that Sampson was orchestrating.

The inconsistencies between Justice's positions and the documents are numerous. On Feb. 23, for example, a Justice legislative affairs aide wrote to Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) that the department "was not aware of Karl Rove playing any role in the decision to appoint Mr. Griffin." But internal Justice e-mails show that "getting him appointed is important" to Rove and was closely monitored by political aides in the White House.

LINK

Anonymous said...

In testimony on Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Justice Department had no intention of avoiding Senate input on the hiring of U.S. attorneys.

Just a month earlier, D. Kyle Sampson, who was then Gonzales's chief of staff, laid out a plan to do just that. In an e-mail, he detailed a strategy for evading Arkansas Democrats in installing Tim Griffin, a former GOP operative and protege of presidential adviser Karl Rove, as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock.

----

So "the Senate" is made up of "Arkansas Democrats"!??!?!?

Brian said...

It was most certainly torture-induced if it even happened at all.

Why should we believe HIS confession when we see rampant evidence that the real culprits extend into our own Government.

Dick Cheney, for starters, has shot a friend in the face and avoided police contact. He also started a war for his Dubai-based company, and various other string-pullers. He also, according to Norman Mineta before the 9/11 Commission, recalled how Cheney deliberately allowed the Pentagon to get hit.

Why should we not assume he's responsible?
He discouraged Tom Daschle from investigating!
as reported as if it was no big deal in Newsweek.

He's threatening more similar attacks, so let's get him OUT already!

Lazy Conspiracy Theorist said...

Amazing none of you paranoid nutjobs have come up with THIS theory....

That Bush WANTS the Congress to impeach Gonzales?

Think about it....NO WAY it could be done (hearings, bills of impeachment, debate, Senate trial, Lieberman voting no, post-game wrap-up) in LESS than 10 months.

That puts it into January and the start of the Primaries and the inevitable "It's too late now" excuses from Speaker Nancy for ANY impeachment of Bush and/or Cheney.

You guys are really getting slack!

georgia said...

the Ides of March have come

GBC said...

Morning everyone. :)

~-~-~

Iraq Reservists Face a 'Perfect Storm' of Post-Traumatic Stress

Soldiers who have served in Iraq are killing themselves at higher rates than in any other war in which such data have been tracked. To understand why, just look at the system.

The sole aspect of the Iraq war upon which Americans are united is the need to provide post-deployment mental health care for our soldiers. The good news is that no one wants to abandon the veterans coming back from Iraq as happened with far too many Vietnam veterans. The bad news is that we already have.

LINK

toniD said...

Senators okay use of subpoenas per CNN

Anonymous said...

georgia said...
the Ides of March have come

March 15, 2007 7:55 AM


IF ONLY !!!!!

era thus to tyrants

pinellas said...

Crap-tastic!

Sound has cut out on my stream = (

Still playing - no sound.....

CeeCee said...

Instead of subscribing to The Washington Post, keep of record of the blogs you regularly visit and send a monthly donation.

toniD said...

Rove and Kyle Sampson look alike:

Kyle Sampson

Karl Rove:

Karl Rove

Both have big heads in more ways than one!

blah blah blah said...

those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat history:

Caesar summoned the Senate to meet in the Pompey's Theater on the Ides of March, 44 BC for the purpose of reading a petition, written by the senators, asking him to hand power back to the Senate. According to the Greek biographer Plutarch, a few days before, the soothsayer Titus Vestricius Spurinna apparently warned Caesar, "Beware the Ides of March." Caesar disregarded the warning:

"The following story, too, is told by many. A certain seer warned Caesar to be on his guard against a great peril on the day of the month of March which the Romans call the Ides; and when the day had come and Caesar was on his way to the senate-house, he greeted the seer with a jest and said: "Well, the Ides of March are come," and the seer said to him softly: "Ay, they are come, but they are not gone." [2]
As the Senate convened, Caesar was attacked and stabbed to death by a group of senators who called themselves the Liberatores ("Liberators"); they justified their action on the grounds that they committed tyrannicide, not murder, and were preserving the Republic from Caesar's alleged monarchical ambitions.

Sunshine said...

morning gang,

sill wiped out, but listening!

GBC said...

Hillary and Obama flub "is homosexuality immoral" question; Edwards does okay

Pretty crappy, and offensive, answers from both Hillary and Obama yesterday when asked whether they think that homosexuality is immoral (the question was prompted, of course, by the General Pace controversy, in which the nation's top uniformed military leader said he thinks homosexuality is immoral).

Rather than giving the clear cut answer that Senator John Warner (R-VA) gave, "I respectfully, but strongly, disagree with the chairman's view that homosexuality is immoral," or that John Edwards gave, "I don't share that view," Hillary and Obama squirmed.
Hillary: "Well, I'm going to leave that to others to conclude."

Obama: Newsday caught Obama as he was leaving the firefighters convention and asked him three times if he thought homosexuality is immoral.

Answer 1: "I think traditionally the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman has restricted his public comments to military matters. That's probably a good tradition to follow."

Answer 2: "I think the question here is whether somebody is willing to sacrifice for their country, should they be able to if they're doing all the things that should be done."

Answer 3: Signed autograph, posed for snapshot, jumped athletically into town car.
What? Hey Senator Obama, do you think Jews are immoral? Jesus Christ.

To Hillary's credit, her campaign did some damage control last night:
Clinton's spokesman, Philippe Reins, said the New York senator "obviously" disagrees with Pace and that everyone, including the general, "has the right to be wrong, but should not inject their personal beliefs into public policy."

Then Wednesday night, the campaign released a statement from the senator herself, saying, "I disagree with what he said and do not share his view, plain and simple."

LINK

As for Hillary, this is not good. Many in the gay community love her, while many fear that while she generally talks a good talk, she won't be there for us when we need her. This kind of vacillation and avoidance only feeds those fears. And it's not the first time. Recently, she spoke at the board meeting of the largest gay civil rights group, the Human Rights Campaign (all the pro-gay presidential candidates were invited, including Giuliani, but to her credit only Hillary accepted (where were Obama and Edwards - and Giuliani, for that matter?)). While HRC (the organization) proudly posted Hillary's speech on YouTube and as the top story on their Web site home page, the other HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) didn't tout her appearance at all, unlike her appearance the next week at the pro-choice women's group EMILY's List, which was feted by her campaign to all the media. When asked, twice, why her campaign appeared to be hiding her gay appearance, Hillary responded:
"You'll have to ask my campaign."

slothrop said...

"Unfettered capitalism is worse than communism."

-from Thomas Pynchon's new novel, "Against The Day" -get it, it's READABLE...

nazi amerikkka said...

Who are Cheney and Bush working for...the Red Chinese?

bibimimi troll'p said...

that was WAY too polite!

Colacch5 said...

Faggot - a weak will person. A person who panders to the masses via feminism, affirmative action and gay rights. The system is keep in place via this control mechanism. Only a strong willed person can escape this gravity. Jew - a person who doesn't accept excellence and thus panders to the masses or put another way - the weak minded. Capella.

Alice said...

http://www.911blogger.com/node/6910

Transcript of 'One Minute Rant' To Air Thursday on The Sam Seder Show on Air America

Nukeboot said...

Great.

60 seconds from the tin foil hat crowd.

There are so many important things to go after the Bush administration for.

Playing a role in the 9/11 attacks isn't one of them.

/my rant

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Anonymous said...

Sam are you having some technical difficulties? In the first segment from 10:06-10:18 CST you were silent from about 10:10 until 10:18 and then in the middle of the 60sec rant from the guy the feed went silent too and then you jumped back on at 10:25.

I am listening online and my other internet feeds were working fine, but just wanted to mention that.

Josh in Nebraska

georgia said...

How ironic is it that the core of the Gonzales scandal is the fact that the DOJ usurped the "advise and consent" power of the Senate?

Seer/Specter...
Liberatores/Liberals...
monarchical ambitions/monarchical ambitions
hmmm....

Anonymous said...

House Approves Three Open
Government Bills: Bush Veto Coming?

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031407S.shtml

The House Wednesday passed three bills to open government records to the public, brushing aside White House opposition and in one case, a veto threat. The measures would force government to be more responsive to Freedom of Information Act requests, make contributions to presidential libraries public and overturn a 2001 presidential directive giving the president authority to keep his records from public view.

i'm smotta than U said...

So many people walking around thing that their opinion is THE opinion. Everybody else is an asshole that wears a tin foil hat.

Anonymous said...

KBR's $400 Million Iraq Question

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031307E.shtml

There's a $400 million question facing the Pentagon's largest contractor, KBR, the former Halliburton subsidiary responsible for more than 50,000 personnel in Iraq and billions in government contracts: Will the mammoth corporation be forced to repay the government nearly half a billion dollars because it hired private security forces in Iraq, including Blackwater USA, when the Army itself was supposed to be providing it with protection? An interactive map details the global reach of Halliburton at the beginning of the invasion of Iraq.

i'm smotta than U said...

So many people walking around thinking that their opinion is THE opinion. Everybody else is an asshole that wears a tin foil hat.

Anonymous said...

UN Condemns "Pathetic" Global Response to Darfur

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031307F.shtml

Sudan's government has "orchestrated and participated in" war crimes and crimes against humanity in Darfur, according to a report by UN investigators. An estimated three million people have been displaced and more than 200,000 have been killed since 2003. A peace deal was signed last May by the government and one of the main rebel groups. The rest refused, however, and the violence has only increased.

Anonymous said...

J. Sri Raman | Bush's Democracy Project in Bangladesh and Nepal

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031307P.shtml

J. Sri Raman writes: "Who says that President George Bush and his men and women promote democracy only by destructive wars? They do so also through creative, unconventional diplomacy. Look at their latest achievements in Bangladesh and Nepal. In both these countries bordering India, whose ruling establishment is enlisted in the Bush crusade to save democracy (especially 'emerging' democracies), the cause has hit a major roadblock. And it is representatives of Washington who has placed a mega-sized boulder on the path to much-awaited elections in both cases."

Anonymous said...

Nancy Pelosi Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=NancyPelosi

toniD said...

Blah 3...

You might be interested in this. Believe it or not it's Ben Stein.

Terribly Exciting
By Ben Stein
Published 3/12/2007 12:09:31 AM


A few days ago, a man from a slick new magazine about business sent me an e-mail. He wanted me to do a column for him about what was "new, hot and exciting -- or terrible -- in business today." The only catch was that he did not want me to complain about the rich. This is what I sent him:

Here is what's new and hot and exciting (or terrible) in the world of money today:

The average wage of the American worker adjusted for inflation is lower than it was in 1973. The only way that Americans have been able to maintain their standard of living at the middle and lower ends has been to send more family members to work and to draw down savings or go into debt or both.

The most sought after jobs in the United States now are jobs in finance in which basically almost no money is raised for new steel mills or coal mines, but immense sums are raised to buy companies, recapitalize them -- which means pay the new owners immense special dividends and other payments for going to the trouble of taking over the company. This process results in fantastically well-paid investment bankers and private equity "financial engineers" and has no measurably beneficial effect on the economy generally. It does facilitate the making of ever younger millionaires and an ever more leveraged American corporate structure.

An entire new class of financial entity has been created called "the hedge fund." It is new not in the sense that there were not always funds that hedged by selling short or buying assets uncorrelated with other assets. The new part of this phenomenon is that it is based on a demonstrably false premise: that these entities can consistently outperform wide stock indexes. They have not and cannot, and yet their managers and employees for a time are paid stupendously well.

LINK

Anonymous said...

http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0312-32.htm

Published on Monday, March 12, 2007 by CommonDreams.org

A New Network Forms to Close U.S. Overseas Military Bases

by Medea Benjamin

In a new surge of energy for the global struggle against militarism, some 400 activists from 40 countries came together in Ecuador from March 5-9 to form a network to fight against foreign military bases. The conference began in Quito, then participants traveled in an 8-bus caravan across the country, culminating in a spirited protest at the city of Manta, site of a U.S. base.

While a few other countries such as England, Russia, China, Italy and France have bases outside their territory, the United States is responsible for 95% of foreign bases. According to U.S. government figures, the U.S. military maintains some 737 bases in 130 countries, although many estimate the true number to be over 1,000.

A network of local groups fighting the huge U.S. military complex is indeed an “asymmetrical struggle,” but communities have been trying for decades to close U.S. military bases on their soil. Their concerns range from the destruction of the environment, the confiscation of farmlands, the abuse of women, the repression of local struggles, the control of resources and a broader concern about military and economic domination.

Kyle Kajihiro, director of the organization Area Hawaii, explained that the U.S. military occupies vast areas of Hawaiian territory, territory which was once public land used for indigenous reserves, agricultural production, schools and public parks.

Sunshine said...

Pelosi weasling?

no! really?

Anonymous said...

202 224-3121

911veritas said...

Great "one minute rant" by 911blogger.com

Any chance of replaying it, it was so quick...

Colacch5 said...

This show sounds a lot like girl talk. Which is what you've reduced yourself to. Meaningless chatter. Look at you Sam a hit with the girls. Isn't that what you've wanted. Gotta keep attached to mom's apron. A man who kills other men is a coward a man who stands up to women is a hero. Capella.

Sunshine said...

that's Jamillah!

yay Janet!

Anonymous said...

Sam,

The real reason why Gen. Pace made that statement is because the administration did not want the public to focus on the Control collaspe of THE STARDUST Hotel and casino in Vagas, because it LOOKED exactly like the WTC control Demolition.

Please see additional informational below:

SUSPICIOUS "MIDDLE EASTERNERS" CHEER TERROR ATTACK FROM MOVING VAN
SOURCE: THE NEW YORK POST AND THE BERGEN RECORD

TRIO WHO CHEERED ATTACK FACE BOOT AS ILLEGAL ALIENS

By AL GUART (NEW YORK POST) www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/

September 13, 2001 -- Three men who celebrated as the Twin Towers crumbled are facing deportation, The Post has learned. The men, described as illegal immigrants from the Middle East, were arrested Tuesday afternoon in a white Chevy van near the Meadowlands based on a tip from witnesses who saw them "cheering" and "jumping up and down" in Liberty State Park after the attack, a source said.

Witnesses took the plate number and the FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: "Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion."

Port Authority cops nabbed the three as they drove along Route 3 in East Rutherford in the van, which had the words "Urban Moving Systems" painted on it. After grilling the men and searching the van in vain for explosives, the FBI turned the men over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation.

The feds declined to release the men's identities or nationalities. "The agency has decided it will not make any comments about this at this time," said INS spokesman Kerry Gill. Officials at "Urban Moving" claimed to be unaware of what had happened.
BERGEN RECORD (New Jersey)
FIVE MEN DETAINED AS SUSPECTED CONSPIRATORS
Wednesday, September 12, 2001
www.bergen.com/news/2bombvan200109125.htm
By PAULO LIMA Staff Writer

Eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts. The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday.

However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. "There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted," the source said. "It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park."

Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said. Sources said the van was stopped as it headed east on Route 3, between the Hackensack River bridge and the Sheraton hotel. As a precaution, police shut down Route 3 traffic in both directions after the stop and evacuated a small roadside motel near the Sheraton.

Sources close to the investigation said the men said they were Israeli tourists, but police had not been able to confirm their identities. Authorities would not release their names. East Rutherford officers stopped the van after the FBI's Newark Office broadcast an alert asking surrounding police departments to look for a white Chevrolet van, police said.

"We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side," said Bergen County Police Chief John Schmidig. "Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down."

East Rutherford officers summoned the county bomb squad, New Jersey state troopers, and FBI agents, who waited alongside the van as prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney's Office tried to obtain a warrant to search the van late Tuesday, Schmidig said. The FBI alert, known as a BOLO or "Be On Lookout," was sent out at 3:31 p.m. It read:

"Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. "Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals."

State police Col. Barry W. Roberson confirmed the traffic stop at a late night news briefing at state police headquarters in Trenton. He would not elaborate, however. A business traveler staying at the Homestead Studio Hotel said she watched state troopers drive the suspects away in a procession of state police cars about 5 p.m. "First, they told us we could hang out in the lobby, but then they told us to leave," the traveler said.

At 10 p.m., the hotel guest said she could see at least two police officers searching through the van while a crowd of other officers kept their distance.

WORKERS AT ISRAELI OFFICE RECEIVED ADVANCE NOTICE OF THE 9-11 TERROR ATTACK
SOURCE: HA'ARETZ (ISRAELI NEWSPAPER) ENGLISH LANGUAGE EDITION

THIS STORY WAS ALSO CONFIRMED IN THE WASHINGTON POST

www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C

ODIGO SAYS WORKERS WERE WARNED OF ATTACK
By Yuval Dror

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. .......And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.

nazi amerikkka said...

If I was in charge of Amerikka, this is what I would do...

I'd bring home almost all of our troops, especially those that are "policing."

Once I got them home I'd shore up our borders and secure our ports, etc.

I would legalize grass for adults. Adult means...if you're old enough to fight wars, you're old enough to smoke a legal joint.

I'd use the huge amount of loot that would be rolling in from grass sales to beef up our educational system.

Free education and health care for everybody but schooling would be mandatory.

Colacch5 said...

Anti-semitism - the inability to critize a group of people who sell themselves as a group. Like the inability to critize women who represent themselves as feminist, or blacks as activist. One massive conspiracy. There's your war. Capella.

Alice said...

Human Flower Project

blah blah blah said...

toniD,

interesting article. i have mixed feelings about ben stein. his history and association with nixon raises some real questions. that being said he is right to the point that america has fallen tremendously. i don't know about you but when i look around my hometown in upstate new york, the factories and places that produced things are gone, here in ohio, there's a real good reason they call it the rust belt. the cincinnati area used to have several auto manufacturing plants, now they are green fields.

financial services fails to add to the economy because it doesn't add value by transforming raw material to something else. all it does is shift money from one place to another.

one final note, i do like stein's sense of humor. probably because sarcasm makes you think.

toniD said...

More Ben Stein. I guess he's soured on the economy...

Here's what else is new and exciting (or terrible) in money: there is real poverty among the soldiers who fight our wars. There are fist fights to get children into $30,000 a year kindergartens and pre-schools in the right neighborhoods in Manhattan. There are 40 million Americans without health care insurance. There are almost 40 million baby boomers with no savings for retirement. There is a long waiting list for Bentleys at the dealership in Beverly Hills.

There are soldiers' wives selling blood to buy toys for their kids. There is a man selling non-functioning body armor who threw a $10 million Bat Mitzvah for his daughter.

In Brentwood, where the houses start at $3 million, the housewives complain about what a terrible country America is. In Clinton, South Carolina, where the textile mill closed fifteen years ago and there is real hardship, the young men still believe in America and their fiancees at Presbyterian College wait for them while they fight in Iraq.

This is a small part of what's new and exciting (or terrible) in America in the world of money right now.

Colacch5 said...

Proaction - reaction. He vs. She. Who started the war? Pre-adamic man (unsouled) vs. Adamic man(souled). The game is over. This is the endgame. Welcome to your nightmare. Capella.

Colacch5 said...

The psychological make-up of the country is morally bankrupt. What you are doing is rearranging the furnature in the room instead of stepping outside of the room. Keep ranting on - your words are drips and drabs on nothingness. Capella.

Anonymous said...

Ben Fucking Stein????

Are you shitting me????

Jewish Nazi's are the lowest!

Alice said...

Terrence McKenna, Timewave Zero

Anonymous said...

nukeboot just called the jersey girls and a majority of 9/11 family members 'tin foil hat wearers'.

obviously you are ignorant as to the massive coveurp which still continues surrounding 9/11, perhaps YOU should watch this documentary (2 thumbs up!):
www.911pressfortruth.com

David said...

The slogan for the Democratic Party in the 2002 mid-term elections should have been:
BUSH KNEW

Anonymous said...

Colacch5 said...
The psychological make-up of the country is morally bankrupt. What you are doing is rearranging the furnature in the room


At least WE know how to spell furniture!

Asswipe!

Dave said...

I also vote to replay the rant!!

Here's a great list of Ommissions from the 9/11 Commision report...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9721/The-911-Commission-Report-Omissions-and-Distortions-by-Dr-David-Ray-Griffin

blah blah blah said...

Zubaz's slogan was "Dare to be Different."

Nerf Mark Malone said...

OT, self-promotion.
My blog is up and running. I have a blog!
Dispatches from the War on Blah

toniD said...

blah, blah, blah said...

one final note, i do like stein's sense of humor. probably because sarcasm makes you think.

March 15, 2007 8:45 AM

It's also bad here in the midwest. I'm in Illinois, Chicago area, and we are losing plants and manufacturers also. I see more people hurting than ever.

I feel really bad for the kids. We have to get this straightened out so that when they grow up their jobs won't be in China and India.

juicey said...

good luck with your show Sam.
Tell the morons at AAR to fix the stream.
Listeners like me are frustrated.
I apreciate your hard work and shouting at an empty hole every day.
you almost fill it.
Best hope they get it worked out I dont want to sit through some fish house ad in a place I cant spend my money.

georgia said...

a must read:

Attorney Firings: What the White House Wanted to do, But Didn't

In the coming days, commentators will be scrambling for their thesauruses to find new ways to describe the mounting criticism of Attorney General Gonzales (try "calumny" or "obloquy" for starters). But it's worth lingering on one perhaps the most illuminating aspect of today's news: What the White House wanted to, but didn't, do.


LINK

Ken Eichler said...

Giuliani putting the OEM on the 23rd floor of WTC7 is in no way more important than the fact that all physical evidence and eyewitness testimony suggest WTC7 was brought down on purpose. That means murder. Not just Giuliani's 'stupidity'.

When are you and your Air America "progressives" gonna figure out that 9/11 was the pre-planned catalyst for all of the misery the world now suffers at our hands. Or, perhaps you have figured it out but are still running interference for your media owners.

blah blah blah said...

Anonymous said...
Ben Fucking Stein????

thats the one. it raises a real question though. can someone trained in another discipline (economics) write something intelligent and still be a republican?

perhaps its not being a republican but being a neocon that makes the difference.

bibimimi troll'p said...

cling PEACHES...in heavy syrup.

(distilled water, corn syrup and THC)

i saw Sybil Gooley at the market, she still has women's complaints

Nukeboot said...

Anonymous,

I've watched and read everything I could find about the 9/11 theories.

You folks give WAAAAAY too much credit to our goverment.

A. You think they were smart enough to pull off the conspiracies involved.

B. You think they are smart enough to keep such a massive conspiracy secret.

Sorry. I've reached my own informed position that our goverment was incompetent and criminally negligent in regards to preparing for a 9/11 type attack.

Believe me, I'm no more comfortable with that conclusion than you are with yours.

bibimimi troll'p said...

blah blah blah said...
Anonymous said...
Ben Stein????

I love how he turned to Jimmy Kimmel and cried out "I'm NOT your little butt buddy!!"

toniD said...

Time Redesign Opens With "How The Right Went Wrong"
Time Magazine | KAREN TUMULTY | March 15, 2007 09:16 AM

A generation ago, fresh off the second biggest electoral landslide in American history, Ronald Reagan surveyed the wreckage that had been the opposition and declared victory. Standing before 1,700 true believers at the 1985 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), he proclaimed, "The tide of history is moving irresistibly in our direction. Why? Because the other side is virtually bankrupt of ideas. It has nothing more to say, nothing to add to the debate. It has spent its intellectual capital." At this year's conference two weeks ago, Reagan's name was invoked more than anyone else's. But the mood at the most storied annual gathering of conservatives was anything but triumphal. John McCain, the Establishment favorite to win the 2008 Republican nomination, skipped CPAC entirely but did show up on David Letterman the night before, choosing the most aggressively glib venue to semiofficially announce his candidacy. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney was there to make his pitch for 2008 but had to compete with a man who was working the crowd in a dolphin costume and a T-shirt identifying him as flip romney: just another flip flopper from massachusetts. Ex-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani barely mentioned the social issues on which he parts ways with conservatives, except to joke, "I don't agree with myself on everything." And the only memorable sound bite of the whole affair came from right-wing telepundit Ann Coulter, whose idea of an ideological rallying cry was to declare Democratic hopeful John Edwards a "faggot."

LINK

bibimimi troll'p said...

Believe me, I'm no more comfortable with that conclusion than you are with yours.

March 15, 2007 9:10 AM

whether a sin of neglect or direct action, choose neglect. letting it happen is JUST as odious.

Anonymous said...

Nukeboot said...
Anonymous,

I've watched and read everything I could find about the 9/11 theories


The "coincidence" that the U.S. Military was on a scheduled "test" at the same time of the attacks is just too much to bear!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Sam that we should ask questions about 9/11. Apparently, DailyKos which he seems to have much appreciation for, does not - at least as long as those questions remain within their "acceptable" bounds. Check out DailyKos's FAQs yourself:

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/DailyKos_FAQ

"DailyKos accepts that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by agents of Al-Qaeda. It is forbidden to write diaries that:

1. refer to claims that American, British, Israeli, or any government assisted in the attacks
2. refer to claims that the airplanes that crashed into the WTC and Pentagon were not the cause of the damage to those buildings or their subsequent collapse

Authoring or recommending these diaries may result in banning from Daily Kos."

Sunshine said...

the demolished both towers and #7.

and killed all those people.

that pushes people with

no courage right out

of their "comfort zone".

and THAT is what allows the cover up.

i'm a bad person said...

I can't stop thinking that ANN COULTER is a faggot!

Jenise said...

"The "coincidence" that the U.S. Military was on a scheduled "test" at the same time of the attacks is just too much to bear!

March 15, 2007 9:14 AM "

it should be noted that the same was true during the london subway attacks.

blah blah blah said...

it was already mentioned earlier, but again, is it a coincidence that we have a full blown confession from al-qaeda just as all hell is breaking loose for illegal acts of the current administration? i think not.

toniD said...

Waas: Gonzales, A Likely Target, Helped Block Wiretapping Probe
By Paul Kiel - March 15, 2007, 11:48 AM
Murray Waas, over at National Journal, adds to Alberto Gonzales' woes. It's another one of those complicated simple stories, and the gist is this: Gonzales knew that an internal Justice Department investigation would likely end up focusing on him, nevertheless, he went to Bush and got him to shut it down.

From National Journal:

Shortly before Attorney General Alberto Gonzales advised President Bush last year on whether to shut down a Justice Department inquiry regarding the administration's warrantless domestic eavesdropping program, Gonzales learned that his own conduct would likely be a focus of the investigation, according to government records and interviews.
Bush personally intervened to sideline the Justice Department probe in April 2006 by taking the unusual step of denying investigators the security clearances necessary for their work.

It is unclear whether the president knew at the time of his decision that the Justice inquiry -- to be conducted by the department's internal ethics watchdog, the Office of Professional Responsibility -- would almost certainly examine the conduct of his attorney general....

Current and former Justice Department officials, as well as experts in legal ethics, question the propriety of Gonzales's continuing to advise Bush about the investigation after learning that it might examine his own actions. The attorney general, they say, was remiss if he did not disclose that information to the president. But if Gonzales did inform Bush about the possibility and the president responded by stymieing the probe, that would raise even more-serious questions as to whether Bush acted to protect Gonzales, they said.

LINK

nazi amerikkka said...

Just think...Cheney and Bush have two more years to sack and plunder the national treasury and destroy the economy.

It looks like nobody has the balls to stand up to these two evil fucks so they will just go on with their unchecked thievery!

bibimimi troll'p said...

why do i think that sweet old bat Harriet Miers swears like a fishwife?

bad things happen said...

HaHa!

Condi Rice dances like a white person!

blah blah blah said...

bibimimi troll'p said...
why do i think that sweet old bat Harriet Miers swears like a fishwife?

she's probably a top too.

Nukeboot said...

"The "coincidence" that the U.S. Military was on a scheduled "test" at the same time of the attacks is just too much to bear!"

---------------------

The fact that the few planes that would have been available were on a training mission doesn't suprise me at all.

What's too much for me to bear is that the Air Force had no plan in place for a standing air cap when we knew full well that Al Qaida planned to fly jets into buildings.

bibimimi troll'p said...

is it possible Bush HASN'T been to Iraq, and that whole plastic turkey moment was staged? That whole 'this beautiful White House' bit could just be a mistake, could it?

bibimimi troll'p said...

when i mead 'staged', i mean domstically at some loyalist blacksite.

bibimimi troll'p said...

she's probably a top too.

March 15, 2007 9:32 AM

oh. well...NOW you've gone into the verboten 'ich' zone

blah blah blah said...

bibimimi troll'p said...
when i mead 'staged', i mean domstically at some loyalist blacksite.

there were enough people there that if that were the case it would be hard for them all to keep quiet.

toniD said...

blah blah blah said...
bibimimi troll'p said...
why do i think that sweet old bat Harriet Miers swears like a fishwife?

she's probably a top too.

March 15, 2007 9:32 AM

And she provides the blindfold!

bibimimi troll'p said...

Condi Rice dances like a white person!

March 15, 2007 9:31 AM

like a sober sorority girl.

blah blah blah said...

bibimimi,

speaking of "ick", did you ever hear that the best advice you can give to your kids is to imagine your parents doing what you're about to do?

bibimimi troll'p said...

it would be hard for them all to keep quiet.

March 15, 2007 9:37 AM

under threat of death...ah, i am just wondering why he'd say something so whacked.

And she provides the blindfold!

March 15, 2007 9:38 AM

aka the 'chicken neckcover'

Sunshine said...

they blew those buildings and did'nt cover it up that well either.

people know that.

toniD said...

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House prices could tumble 10 percent this year and force the United States into recession if a credit crunch taking shape in the mortgage market gathers steam, Merrill Lynch said in research notes this week.

If correct, the prospects of this scenario will prove troubling for equities investors, who could face a stock market decline of 30 percent or more as measured by the S&P 500 index <.SPX >, the brokerage said.

Merrill said the biggest concern is that tighter lending standards in the mortgage market, even if confined to lower-quality borrowers, will constrain overall housing demand and hamper recovery in the struggling housing market.

"It is not inconceivable (given what is happening now to mortgage originations) that we end up with something closer to a 10 percent decline in home prices this year," Merrill Lynch said.

Merrill said this alone would slow the economic expansion to a rate of about 1.5 percent to 1.75 percent this year, which it termed a "growth recession."

The traditional definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of declining gross domestic product.

However, if the inflation-fighting Federal Reserve were to keep rates unchanged to contain price growth -- instead of cutting by 1 percentage point in the second half of 2007 as Merrill expects -- then this would put the probability of an outright recession in the second half at "very close to 100 percent."

In the past, moves by financial markets to price in some risk of a recession, without actually experiencing one, has led to an average drop in the S&P 500 of 16 percent in sell-offs lasting 13 weeks.

"But if we do end up seeing a recession, then it's game over: the historical record shows that the average decline in the S&P 500 is 34 percent and the average duration is 37 weeks - more than double the magnitude and triple the duration of classic non-recessionary correction," Merrill added.

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Sunshine said...
they blew those buildings and did'nt cover it up that well either.

people know that.


true. if they did blow the buildings, they figured they could get away with it in plain sight because most people would never believe their lying eyes.

bibimimi troll'p said...

did you ever hear that the best advice you can give to your kids is to imagine your parents doing what you're about to do?

March 15, 2007 9:40 AM


nausea inducing and remarkably effective! girls should also hold an aspirin firmly between the knees

Anonymous said...

Take a pile of office supplies and building material like sheetrock, concrete and steel, add jet fuel (kerosene) and light it on fire. Now see how long it takes for that fire to get hot enough to melt steel. If you get the steel to melt, I'll believe the towers and WTC 7 were not imlpoded with explosives. Good luck, I'll be waiting to hear how that goes, I want pictures too.

Quote: ... As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running." (Williams, 2001, p. 3; emphasis added.)

toniD said...

China 'deeply regrets' US censure of bank
US accused Macau-based bank of money laundering for North Korea.

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toniD said...

Bush, Gonzales Pushed To Shut Down Inquiry That Probably Would Have Targeted Gonzales
National Journal | Murray Waas | March 15, 2007 12:42 PM

Shortly before Attorney General Alberto Gonzales advised President Bush last year on whether to shut down a Justice Department inquiry regarding the administration's warrantless domestic eavesdropping program, Gonzales learned that his own conduct would likely be a focus of the investigation, according to government records and interviews.

Bush personally intervened to sideline the Justice Department probe in April 2006 by taking the unusual step of denying investigators the security clearances necessary for their work.

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toniD said...

Kucinich: "Fox is legitimate"
by kos
Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:27 AM PDT
Ahh, as we all predicted -- Dennis Kucinich is about to become one of Fox's favorite Democrats, here on last night's Fox's "The Big Story with John Gibson".

GIBSON: But look at who did this. It was the George Soros group, moveon.org , and the Daily Kos, which is run by a guy named Markos, that insisted that FOX be decertified. Why is it that they have such control over Democrats?

KUCINICH: I would say that I think we need a politics which does not condemn people. So I am not going to condemn them. But what I am going to say is that FOX is a legitimate news agency that has the ability to reach out to millions of Americans, so why not get that message out? That is what I want to do, and all Democrats should be capable of doing it.

FOX is a good litmus test because if you can stand the scrutiny of FOX, with what you stand for, and all of the FOX News agencies that gather the information, their anchors can ask you questions, well that is part of what the test is of leadership.

Again, we should be thinking about a campaign that unites people. And I am ready to reach out to conservatives.

They brought Dennis on Gibson's show to defend Fox, not to let Kucinich talk about any issue. In fact, have they ever invited him on before? But now, as Fox looks for cover against charges that it's the right-wing's premier propaganda arm, there was Dennis being their useful idiot, eager to legitimize them.

And to stress a n obvious point -- the question here isn't "being afraid to go on Fox News", although that's how Fox's apologists (including Dennis) want to spin this. The question is, why lend legitimacy to an operation that is trying to actively working in concert with the Republican Party to destroy Democrats and everything progressive?

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toniD said...

Daily Show: Serving at the Pleasure of the President
By: SilentPatriot @ 10:11 AM - PDT
With the whole prosecutor purge scandal unraveling before our eyes, the phrase "serve at the pleasure of the President" has become a popular talking point for those who seek to dismiss the removal of US attorneys mid-term as perfectly appropriate. Once again, Jon digs through the Bush administration video vault and finds some other instances where that phrase has been used.

Download (314) | Play (324) Download (128) | Play (220)

"Serve at the pleasure of the President" was literally the #1 administration talking point, as the recently-released internal communications prove. Anticipating a political upheaval over the unprecedented firings, Gonzo's deputy Kyle Sampson formulated a talking-point strategy (.pdf):

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Sunshine said...

want to know what's at the root of this whole pile of shit?

AMERICA: Freedom To Fascism. Aaron Russo Interview.

http://tinyurl.com/39v454

the problem discussed, international power grabs, and the solution offered. the US taxation discussion a side issue.

understanding how they "divide and conquer" is what's really important to understand.

labels are misleading.

#6Vig said...

There's nothing there.

Do it again.

Sunshine said...

"Take a pile of office supplies and building material like sheetrock, concrete and steel, add jet fuel (kerosene) and light it on fire. Now see how long it takes for that fire to get hot enough to melt steel."

make sure you give it a good thick coating of "fire cladding" to boot.

toniD said...

Did anyone watch the Daily Show last night?

Zbigniew Brzezinski on The Daily Show

"The real problem is that we have had a policy lately that has been dividing our friends and uniting our enemies, and should be the other way around."

He also said that the idea of the Global war on terror now seems to be the idea that if we end the war with Iraq, the Iraqis would swim across the Atlantic to attack us here. I am paraphrasing here.

Wayne Mad-as-march-hare-sen said...

Hey 9/11 Conspiracy Nuts....

Why don't those brave, honest hosts of Air America who SEEM to ally themselves with you (like Sam and Randi)....

EVER come right out and SAY what the "truth" is (Mossad planting thermite charges, missile (not jet) hitting the Pentagon, United 93 shot down).

Why do they always couch it in "Well, there are some theories I don't hold with...but I want the questions out there"?

Maybe Cheney and AIPAC have something on them?!!?!? Make them SOUND sympathetic, but they're really "in on it"?!?!??!

Sunshine said...

divide and conquer T.

polarise and organise circular firing squads.

all the other disinformation techniques.

including utter control of all the news media

except for a tiny (but growing) grassroots press.

us...

Dr. Zimmerman Robert said...

Origins of the US president’s Manichaean Style

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=387

Sunshine said...

ya know,

we've discussed AIPAC, Jews, Israel, 911 and everything else that's a part of this mess.

and we pretty well have it figured out and we have it documented.

yer coming in on the issue with too little info to understand it.

no biggie, that's normal.

but if you ARE actually looking to understand this you need to do even more fact finding for yourself.

by 03 i had 249 files on "Israel".

since we got going here we've probably posted at least another 500 or 600 more, maybe a lot more.

i try to show the big picture a lot, my guesses are informed by this amazing accumulation of fact.

if you only knew what we've done here you'd be amazed.

Sunshine said...

eya Doc Zimm!

saw ya pop up earlier!

how ya been?

Anonymous said...

"divide and conquer T.

polarise and organise circular firing squads.

all the other disinformation techniques.

including utter control of all the news media

except for a tiny (but growing) grassroots press.

us..."

While I agree with this comment, don't fool yourself, most of the alternative media is controlled as well.

2turk said...

Tampering with justice to stop an inquiry or probe that may place you in hot water.


Remember this one,.. an inquiry of justice - stopped cold.

7/18/2006

George Bu$$h waves his royal sceptre from his throne,.. gives the thumbs down sign and stops a probe into gonzales' DOJ Rules that permitted domestic spying.

How was this done.

The lawyers of the Justice Department from the Office of Professional Responsibility were to probe the legality of the rules written by Gonzales which permitted the NSA to conduct internal domestic spying/wire taps, beyond FISA court review.

Gonzales did not want any inspection of these rules/authorizations by DoJ allowing the NSA to spy. Gonzales went to George Bu$$h to stop the probe. George bu$$h to stop the probe by the Office of Professional Responsibility just denied the inspectors the needed security clearances to complete the probe. The probe/inspection of domestic spying program then was immediately halted, the circumvention of the FISA Law by this administration was not delved into.

...

The department's Office of Professional Responsibility announced earlier this year it could not pursue an investigation into the role of Justice lawyers in crafting the program, under which the National Security Agency intercepts some telephone calls and e-mail without court approval.

At the time, the office said it could not obtain security clearance to examine the classified program.

Under sharp questioning from Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Arlen Specter, Gonzales said that Bush would not grant the access needed to allow the probe to move forward.

Above source/link here

Sunshine said...

yer link looks like a goodun. nice intro to the concept.


"Richard Hofstadter has published a series of essays on the Radical Right entitled The Paranoid Style in American Politics (Knopf). He might just as well have called his book The Manichaean Style in American Politics, since the metaphysical and moral presuppositions of the Radical Right are Manichaean to the core."

Sunshine said...

"While I agree with this comment, don't fool yourself, most of the alternative media is controlled as well."

no biggie, control is response to pressure and theres sure enough of that.

i try to read motivation. when i trust a persons motivation i give them credit for being an honest researcher.

and i see a lot of that and growing because i read the comments.

that's where the real truth pops out.

in the discussion.

Dr. Zimmerman Robert said...

Pointless Diversion
Yet day after day the presses and the "new media" are caught in the whirlwind of government and corporate marketing departments: diversions that keep the call for peace from being heard.

"Resignation Calls" will not bring about peace in the world, or a middle class wage for all workers nor will it bring about free universal education and healthcare. It is my belief that more and more people will see the benefit of democratically collective actions when we daily argue and work for the free universal education and healthcare, middle class wages for all and clean, healthy housing for all.

When to ask for what we want "Bread & Roses," then will we begin our struggle with positive actions that are more likely to gain wide public support from those silent friends that share our needs.

toniD said...

Evangelicals are splitting now. The religious right is trying to silence and evangelical minister that believes that global warming is an issue.

The evangelical right, like Tony Perkins wants him released as a minister.

Just on CNN.

So devide and conquer works for both sides.

Alice said...

How the war began

Alice said...

I just love Dr. Z... ;)

Alice said...

Depressed?

Dr. Zimmerman Robert said...

Sunshine said...
eya Doc Zimm!

saw ya pop up earlier!

how ya been?

March 15, 2007 11:21 AM

It is the same, that is working for peace at home and abroad. We are working on starting a Renounce War Blog for the anniversary of March 19th. We are looking for help to make it a place where people can come to give ideas and feelings that will advance our humanity. A place where we can share ways of becoming better human beings

Renounce War Blog
http://renouncewar.blogspot.com/

Sunshine said...

And the truth shall be known.

and...

don't sweat the small stuff.

more peeps know what's going on at some level. and that's all to the good.

we need more sane change, quicker to get on top of this. that's obvious when you think about it.

that's how collective efforts form. this one seems to be doing well.

personally i hope we get our shit together quick enough to save some polar bears.

toniD said...

Pentagon Redacted Statements of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Discussing Torture
According to a Pentagon transcript released yesterday, Khalid Sheik Mohammed confessed to masterminding 9/11 and “more than 30 other terror attacks or plots” at a military hearing held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Known among CIA officers as “Al-Qaeda’s toughest prisoner” in Guantanamo Bay, Mohammed has long been the subject of extreme interrogation techniques, including waterboarding. “CIA officers who subjected themselves to the water boarding technique lasted an average of 14 seconds before caving in…KSM won the admiration of interrogators when he was able to last between two and two-and-a-half-minutes before begging to confess.” The CIA also reportedly abducted his seven- and nine-year-old sons and flew them to the United States for interrogation.

In his remarks to a military tribunal, Mohammed raised objections to the treatment he received, but his statements on torture were redacted by the Pentagon in their publicly released transcript:

I know American people are torturing us from seventies. [REDACTED]. I know they are talking human rights. And I know it is against American constitution, against American laws.

Mohammed claimed that CIA interrogators warned him he would be subjected to illegal treatment, calling it “bad luck”:

They said every law, they have exceptions, this is your bad luck you have been part of the exception of our laws.

Kenneth Roth of Human Rights Watch questioned the legality of the closed-door sessions and whether Mohammed’s confession was actually the result of torture. “We won’t know that unless there is an independent hearing,” he said. “We need to know if this purported confession would be enough to convict him at a fair trial or would it have to be suppressed as the fruit of torture?”

See the full Pentagon transcript HERE.

UPDATE: Danger Room and Talk Left have more.

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toniD said...

Senators delay subpoenas of Rove, Miers. The Senate Judiciary Committee today “authorized the use of subpoenas to five Justice Department officials in the investigation into the dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys. It postponed a vote on the authorization to use subpoenas to compel White House officials to testify, including President Bush’s top political adviser, Karl Rove, and former White House counsel Harriet Miers,” at the request of conservative committee members.

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toniD said...

TIMELINE: Four Years Of War In Iraq


Next Monday marks four years since the invasion of Iraq. ThinkProgress has created a detailed timeline that captures the story of the Iraq war over the past 48 months.

As the war has intensified and escalated, some of the critical details have faded from our memories. Some notable events from the timeline:

APRIL 28, 2004: Images of torture at Abu Ghraib are revealed

SEPTEMBER 23, 2004: Bush: “I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America.”

NOVEMBER 18, 2005: Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) calls for U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq

NOVEMBER 30, 2005: National Strategy for Victory In Iraq unveiled by White House

DECEMBER 17, 2005: Lieberman: Bush has turned corner on Iraq

AUGUST 21, 2006: Bush: “We’re not leaving [Iraq] so long as I’m the president.”

MARCH 19, 2006: Time Magazine reveals that U.S. Marines killed at least 15 unarmed Iraqi civilians in Haditha the previous November

NOVEMBER 1, 2006: Classified military briefing reports Iraq “edging toward chaos.”

JANUARY 3, 2007: Death toll of U.S. soldiers in Iraq reaches 3,000

The timeline catalogues the key events, quotes, and pictures of the war. Check it out and spread the word. And make sure to tell us what we missed in the comments section.

Timeline

toniD said...

House committee approves Iraq withdrawal plan. “A Democratic plan to require the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq passed its first test on Thursday as the House Appropriations Committee voted to endorse the proposal, overcoming Republican opposition. Members voted 37-27 along party lines to uphold a provision in a $124 billion war spending legislation that calls for troops to leave Iraq before September 2008, and possibly sooner if the Iraqi government does not meet certain benchmarks.”

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Sunshine said...

it's good to have the perspectives we've gained.

theres a knack to this all. we're getting onto it slowly.

some kids coming up with some brilliant thinking lately too.

the blog here has adapted and seems to be it's normal wildly diverse place.

Dr. Zimmerman Robert said...

Sunshine

RFK quote makes a very good point
thanks for your help

from many comes the voice of peace

Sunshine said...

well i'd say something nice to ya 'dudette' but they'd accuse me of flattery.

screw em!

nice post T!

that timeline will come in handy.

fat lady news service said...

On Dennis Kucinich....read this, from this week's Cleveland Scene...

The unstoppable elf
While at least 16 lefties around the country waddle toward Congressman Dennis Kucinich's presidential campaign, smitten by his antiwar stance, the Federal Election Commission has proved again what Clevelanders knew all along: Kucinich's lone skill is holding press conferences starring Dennis Kucinich.

Remember his last campaign, when he blew $2.9 million in taxpayer money just to make himself a punch line on The Daily Show? Turns out Kucinich (D-Playland) was also putting on a clinic on how to violate federal election law.

An FEC audit shows that Kucinich kept spending taxpayer dollars long after he was ineligible to spend the cash. In the FEC's eyes, the congressman was eliminated from the race on March 4, 2004, after which he could use only private money. (Others believe Kucinich was eliminated in fifth grade, when doctors discovered he was an alien sent to earth to scare children and take up valuable space in Fourth of July parades.)

Despite being ineligible, Kucinich's ego, which has its own charge account at Dillard's, pressed on. He campaigned until July 29 -- the day Democrats picked John Kerry and finally shook Kucinich from their leg. In the meantime, he spent almost $2 million more -- almost $500,000 of which came from money that included federal funds. The feds can't say exactly how much extra taxpayer cheese the elf blew, but they've asked Kucinich to repay $135,515.

Kucinich also failed to report hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions and expenses, and failed to itemize another half-million dollars in contributions. The report officially makes Kucinich's run the least successful campaign since Punch's failed bid for treasurer of the Harbor Inn Dart Team, which we lost to a guy named Ron.

The campaign did not return multiple calls, but would presumably defend the congressman's decision to continue embarrassing himself. Though he earned only four votes, do you know how many of those little shampoos you can steal in five extra months on the campaign trail?

Sunshine said...

yer welcome doc.

to encourage people talking with instead of at each other is my hope.

Orangutan. said...

Amen to www.911Blogger.com!! They have done extraordinary work in examining the truth of 9/11. I hope everyone has the fortitude to investigate this stuff and watch the movies on their site under the "recent media" section. Click on my web page link to go directly there and enjoy some media and a few documentaries. Peace.

Sunshine said...

http://www.911blogger.com/

ya he's done a good job with the site.

blog return after post best contered by going back and then refreshing.

good selection of media and good archives too.

rectum said...

Our Beloved President,

George W. Bush.

Alice said...

Chiquita Admits Payments to Colombian Paramilitaries

One of the world’s largest banana producers has agreed to plead guilty to paying a Colombian right-wing paramilitary group. Chiquita Brands International will pay a twenty-five million dollar fine as part of a settlement for making payments to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia. The Justice Department says Chiquita paid out more than $1.7 million between 1997 and 2004. Nearly half came after the group was designated a foreign terrorist organization in 2001. Chiquita has previously admitted to making unspecified “protection” payments following what it says were threats from militant groups. Chiquita -- formally United Fruit Company -- has seen several accusations of ties to criminal activity in its Latin America dealings.
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Kevin's Blog,(con graphic..)

toniD said...

Have to get ready for work. Seem to be doing alot of that lately. Unfortunately it's a push day. I have to push myself past the pain to go.

I'll try to pop in b4 I leave.

Jim, I posted some excerpts and a link to the timeline on my blog as well. Thanks to Think Progress.

Sunshine said...

thanks T!

ya, i sealed Bgurls front window yesterday and cleaned it this AM and re-tweaked myself even with being careful. i'm in bed with the laptop, two fuzzybutts and a cuppa coffee. the combination can be quite challenging but the doggers are snoozing currently.

nipple wring said...

rectum said...
Our Beloved President,

George W. Bush.

March 15, 2007 12:27 PM

Is that you, War Dog?

He said...

Fresher thread available

Anonymous said...

Here's the confirmation that Sam was asking about regarding Rudy G. knowing that the WTC going to "collapse" before it happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKHLok-RVNw

@ about 50 seconds in, Rudy admits, during this interview with Peter Jennings, that he had prior knowledge the WTC was going to "collapse".

KD said...

http://otherstuffkaliddid.blogspot.com/


Please pass this email along to as many other people as you can. It is up to all Americans to discover the “truth” ...

Jon Gold said...

HI Sam... I think it was a little unfair of you to do a "rant" about how crazy a very miniscule amount of people within the 9/11 Truth Movement are before playing Michael Wolsey's recording.

"I mean, there's no way we know the whole story. There's simply no way. And uh, we've talked about that on this program..."

Please Sam, point me to the show where you announced that representatives of a GOOD portion of family members (family members themsevles) called for a new investigation into the attacks. Please Sam, point me to the show where you announced that the family members that fought for the creation of the 9/11 Commission declared that Commission "derelict in its' duties" and questioned the "entire veracity" of the 9/11 Report. Please Sam, point me to the show where you announced the release of a documentary endorsed by the family members that fought for the creation of the 9/11 Commission, and brings into question the ENTIRE 9/11 Report (Randi doesn't count).

Anonymous said...

But since Khalid has squealed on the "A to Z" of 9/11, perhaps he can provide some answers to a few troubling little questions that still have us 9/11 "conspiracy nuts" running around in circles;

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for the FBI ordering the 1993 World Trade Center bombing to go ahead? In his confession, KSM says he ran the attack but fails to explain why it was the FBI who provided the terror cell with the bomb materials through their informant.

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for NORAD completely reversing its standard operating procedure on the day of 9/11?

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for the collapse of three steel buildings, one that was not hit by a plane, from fire damage alone for the first and only time in history?

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for warning, according to Newsweek, a group of top Pentagon officials to cancel their flights on the evening of September 10th due to security concerns?

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for the record number of 'put' options, speculation that the stock of a company will fall, that were placed on American and United Airlines in the days preceding September 11th? This despite a September 10th Reuters report stating 'airline stocks set to fly.'

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for blocking FBI anti-terrorism investigations before 9/11 related to the bin Laden family and Saudi charities that were front groups for Al-Qaeda?

- Was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed responsible for advising the Secret Service not to remove President Bush from a completely unsecured Florida elementary school by letting them know he wasn't a target on 9/11?

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