Tuesday, March 20, 2007

Tuesday, Hour 3

Coming up this hour, Markos of DailyKos!

What the hell, Glenn Beck? (P.S. Does he sound like Charles Nelson Reilly or what?)

Have you seen this? Sam and Markos are talking about it this hour.

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not sam said...

Boom boom boom. Hey hey. Hour 3.

pbtrue1 said...

Love you Sam...keep kicking neo-scum butt.

i said...

We're back.

Anonymous said...

Big Ed is pounding his chest again. Nothing like a good winner.

Catharine said...

Wow! A separate thread for Hour 3?!

What's the occasion?

Anonymous said...

Just trying to bury all the bad news about the show. It's a big job!

fishgrease said...

There's something rotten going on in Colorado Springs.

2turk said...

The F-E-M-I-N-A-Z-A-T-I-O-N of America. Do not elect Hillary Clinton. Only White Men - belong in the White House.

- Glen Beck.

Catharine said...

Beck is such a loser. He is so unappealing, even to the sadomasochistic fascists. I find it difficult to believe that he has 3 million listeners.

It's easy to count people as being listeners. It's kind of like this NY Sun paper that arrived at my door. The owner is a self-proclaimed neocon and he is just sending it free of charge to anyone whose name he can get, just so he can count it as readership and reach and charge more to his advertisers.

Don't believe the hype.

Catharine said...

Sam!!

Great imitation of Beck!!!

Spot on!

Catharine said...

Fish??!!!!

Is that you?

What is rotten in Colorado Springs?

Anonymous said...

Glen Beck sounds like Charlie-in-the-Box from the island of misfit toys!

Whatta Maroon!

2turk said...

If there is bad news coming down the pike create a detour and re-route traffic back into "Happy Talkland".

- The White House Press Office

Catharine said...

Anonymous said...

Glen Beck sounds like Charlie-in-the-Box from the island of misfit toys!

Whatta Maroon!

March 20, 2007 8:21 AM

*********

Ohmigod!

You are so right.

Charlie-in-the-box.

Catharine said...

Excellent!

"massive drug problem"; and a wimpy voice.

Beck actually has kids?

JKF said...

Hillary's "voice irritating"? Compared to what? Man Colter's voice purhaps? Get REAL! Just my "two sense"!

i said...

Glenn Beck, what a total f**ing fake.

i said...

From CNN Breaking News:

-- Former Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan was hanged early Tuesday for his role the 1982 killings of 148 men and boys in Dujail, a government official told The Associated Press.

--

Only 148? That sounds like a bad weekend now.

They had dictatorship, but the Bushies replaced it with anarchy, instead of democracy.

Catharine said...

How is this guy going to go on Good Morning America. I mean the show sucks, but how are they going to have this guy next to Diane Sawyer, or even allow him to talk to any of their guests? I have boycotted that show for several years, but I know their format, and ... I can't imagine what they are going to allow him to say.

The tide is turning regarding the appeal of these hate-speech tirades by on air personalities. Beck missed the wave. Just like people have become increasingly numb to reality TV, and are turning the channel, they are also tired of the lets say anything just to stir up controversy. "Controversy sells" isn't a good format anymore.

Alice said...

Marc maron speaks: "sam has not been fired."



The end of this story hasn't been told; but Marc Maron gave his side to BlatherWatch tonight. "They [Air America] made me an offer. Initially it was unclear what time slot I would fill."

Maron says he considered the offer.

His joy, no doubt was dampened when he learned that the new owners' plans for him were for Sam's 9-ta noon time slot.

He says they were going to switch out Seder into the evening.

Maron says, "Sam did not know this." And after thinking about it, he told Seder.

"I turned down the offer for a number of reasons. One of the reasons I turned it down was my respect for and my relationship with Sam."

He says, that as far as he knows, "Sam has not been fired."

This doesn't sound like such stable ground for Sam- we'll be waiting to hear what comes next.

(AAR never seems to stop delivering flaming bags of mellerdramer to the media... a piece of advice for the brave, new/old network: don't be fucking with our Rachel...)

Another regular show must have sounded pretty good to Marc Maron- especially with new AAR management.

This from his Wikipedia entry:

Maron co-hosted the progressive talk radio network Air America Radio's three-hour AM radio show Morning Sedition with Mark Riley. It became well known that his contract would not be renewed as of December 1, 2005 due to problems with then Air America executive Danny Goldberg. Goldberg reportedly did not "get" or agree with the comedy Maron and other writers (Jim Earl and Kent Jones) brought to the morning-drive time show.
... His last show and the previous incarnation of Morning Sedition was on December 16, 2005.
On February 28, 2006, Maron began hosting an evening radio program for KTLK Progressive Talk 1150AM in Los Angeles called The Marc Maron Show from 10:00PM PST until midnight PST. The program was never nationally syndicated by Air America despite reported contractual clauses promising so.
On July 5, 2006, it was announced that The Marc Maron Show's final show would air Friday July 14, 2006. ...
Marc Maron guest hosted Air America Radio's Springer on the Radio on November 6th, 2006 and The Sam Seder Show on December 1st, 2006. Maron also guest hosted The Sam Seder Show for the entire week of December 18th-22nd, 2006. He has a regular guest appearance on the Sam Seder show on the 3rd hour on Fridays.

Posted by michael hood

pbtrue1 said...

Yeah Markos!!!!

Anonymous said...

....love ya SAM, but...

Charles Nelson Reilly had more of a LISP in his speech.

You guys are doing a spot on "Charlie-in-the-box" from the Island of Misfit Toys! Who's with me on this? PEACE BABY.

Anonymous said...

LOL your glenn beck impersonation is spot on. Do more of it.

Catharine said...

I gotta say that it is really sad that the Democrats would even consider going on Fox News. It just shows us how out of touch they are. Not all of them, of course, but a good number of them. Lame and stupid.

Just say no!

Anonymous said...

Before Air America, I monitored Beck and learned the following from his own statements:

1. Born Catholic; now a Mormon by remarrying one who took away his drug habit, much as Laura took George's bottle away.

2. Abused child; victim of father and/or stepfather.

3. Incomplete education highlighted by taking drama courses at Yale where he excelled in the dynamic presentation of the anger and resentment the right wing nuts require for on air entertainment of their constituents.

4. Opportunity struck on 9/11 when "conservative" talk radio needed another voice to dramatize America's latent fears and hatreds coming to the fore.

Alice said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyfGnASlSJA
Judge Judy and Johnny Rotten

Catharine said...

Anonymous said...

Before Air America, I monitored Beck and learned the following from his own statements:

1. Born Catholic; now a Mormon by remarrying one who took away his drug habit, much as Laura took George's bottle away.

2. Abused child; victim of father and/or stepfather.

3. Incomplete education highlighted by taking drama courses at Yale where he excelled in the dynamic presentation of the anger and resentment the right wing nuts require for on air entertainment of their constituents.

4. Opportunity struck on 9/11 when "conservative" talk radio needed another voice to dramatize America's latent fears and hatreds coming to the fore.

March 20, 2007 8:48 AM

***

I really should stop being surprised by this bio. It's Karl Rove's bio and just about every other neocon screwup's.

pbtrue1 said...

Sam, Markos, this may interest you.

Conservatives in the rural areas of America have been collecting information that proves global warming is happening. For decades!


Map changes

This map shows hardiness zones. A gardener site at

WIKI Hardiness Zone

says...

"The USDA published its first hardiness zone map in 1960 and updated it in 1965. The 1990 map was completely reorganized based on data collected between 1974 to 1986 in the United States and Canada and between 1971 to 1984 in Mexico. The 1990 map was created because "in North America, the ranges of temperature and moisture for the past decade were wider than those recorded for the 1940's through the 1960's," according to the USDA.

That trend seems to have continued. The USDA and the American Horticulture Society worked together to develop a newer map based on records from 1986 to 2002. This map shows many regions are approximately 10 F warmer than they were in the 1960’s."

The three ways this proves global warming without agenda:

1 - the whole point of collecting this data wasn't to prove global warming. It was purely for good farming. There's no point in trying to grow oranges in Ohio, unless it gets warm enough to grow oranges in Ohio. These studies were to let farmers know if their crops could stand a freeze, not to prove CO level increases or to show dying polar bears. In fact, the initial hardiness zone maps for the United States were developed during the 1920's and 30's.

Twenties and Thirties. A time when there wasn't an awful lot of discussion concerning global warming. So the data predates the argument, making it bias-free.

2 - plants don't care about the argument. Plants are sensitive to temperature changes, yet they don't choose where their progeny gets to grow. Either someone positions their seed deliberately (the farmers), or they have a method of distributing their seed that works (carried in a bird's belly and dropped with the crap, blown in the wind, dropped from a branch, etc.).

In the latter instance (random distribution): if the conditions are right for the seed where it lands, it can germinate. If not, it doesn't. This is why you have a tree-line on mountains - lower down, the tree can eke out a living. Higher up, it can't. So no trees above the tree line. Liberals didn't make it so, Al Gore didn't make it so ...it's HOW THE WORLD REALLY WORKS. You have a problem with that, go take it out on a priest or the Big Bang or whatever you believe!

That's all with random seed distribution. At least with the first option (someone positions the seed with forethought), the farmer can decide if he's pissing his money up against a tree by trying to grow oranges on his Ohio farm. So the fact (FACT!) that plants are able to survive in more northern (and higher) environments than before means..... anyone? Anyone? No, Billy, the plants aren't toughing it out to prove Rush Limbaugh right. Anyone?

3 - if you were going to fix the results, these are the wrong people to do it with. All data was taken from AMERICAN RURAL FARMING FOLK. So let me put it this way: IF you were going to start an international conspiracy that the earth was warming up, and IF you wanted to get information to prove your point, and IF you wanted to do this to prove American Conservatives wrong, would you go to RURAL AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES to get your made-up evidence? Because it seems to me that we have the ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BELIEVE THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIBERAL MYTH, and for the past SIX DECADES these people have been systematically proving that their own land is slowly warming.

We have decades of information. Relating to life-forms that don't care what color tie the President wears (or what a President is). Taken from people that specifically do NOT have an agenda to prove global warming.

And yet they do. This makes it possibly the strongest type of evidence out there. The sort that proved the hypothesis decades before the hypothesis was invented!

Reprinted by permission
of ShawnGBR on March 20, 2007 on AAR

Anonymous said...

saddam and all his cronies are getting hanged for offences they committed 20 years ago. it's a good thing bush is taking good care of himself so he can live to see his own hanging 20 years from now.

dada said...

So Markos isn't Stalin, you say?

I'm not convinced.

dada said...

The internets are radically transforming politics. And Kos is at the Vanguard of the movement.

hmm...

dada said...

"at the vanguard"

that's not right, is it. You say "Kos 'is' the vanguard." You're not 'at' the vanguard, you are the vanguard.

I'm not sure.

Alice said...

OMG....from my the newspaper about the radio station's fox news misinformation about the Iraqis wanting the US to stay there directly contradicting a USa today poll from yesterday...

Dear Alice:
I appreciate your concerns. Simply put, we cannot monitor the radio station's news content for errors anymore than we can monitor Fox News for errors or unbiased reporting. Likewise, we do not expect the radio station to correct any errors that may appear in The Union Democrat.

We issue our own corrections, right on the front page, when necessary. I do not know how or whether the radio station deals with corrections.

Alice said...

Ex-Iraqi Weightlifter Regrets Toppling Saddam Statue

As Iraqis mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S. invasion, an unlikely critic of the occupation has emerged. Four years ago, images of a prize-winning Iraqi weightlifter named Kadhim al-Jubouri were broadcast around the world. He was videotaped using a sledgehammer to bring down a statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad's Firdous Square. Now al-Jubouri says he regrets his actions. In an interview with the Guardian newspaper he said, “The Americans are worse than the dictatorship. Every day is worse than the previous day.” He said Saddam Hussein was like Stalin but the occupation is proving to be worse.

Ex-Iraqi Weightlifter Regrets Toppling Saddam Statue
As Iraqis mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S. invasion, an unlikely critic of the occupation has emerged. Four years ago, images of a prize-winning Iraqi weightlifter named Kadhim al-Jubouri were broadcast around the world. He was videotaped using a sledgehammer to bring down a statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad's Firdous Square. Now al-Jubouri says he regrets his actions. In an interview with the Guardian newspaper he said, “The Americans are worse than the dictatorship. Every day is worse than the previous day.” He said Saddam Hussein was like Stalin but the occupation is proving to be worse.

Gilbert said...

Sam,
your impression of Glen Beck sounds like a character (I forgot which) on one the Christmas specials (Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer?).

I'll post the character's name when I recall.

.

Alice said...

Oops...that's supposed to be a link to DN...they also talked about the moveon story...

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/20/1337212

MoveOn Criticized For Backing Additional War Funding

On Monday the liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org publicly endorsed the Democratic House leadership's bill to approve $100 billion in additional funding for the war. On Thursday, the House is scheduled to vote on the bill that would fund the war for another year on the condition that American troops begin to withdraw by next March. Eli Pariser of MoveOn said, "While this measure doesn't go far enough, they know the choice is a war without end or a safe and responsible end to the war. This measure is an important step in the right direction." Several prominent anti-war advocates have criticized MoveOn for refusing to support the Iraq amendment from Congressional Progressive Caucus leaders Barbara Lee, Lynn Woolsey and Maxine Waters, which calls for "a fully funded, and systematic, withdrawal of U.S. soldiers and military contractors from Iraq" by the end of 2007.

Alice said...

dada, the music from the other night is great stuff...the Djamchid Chemirani drumming I loved...I you know more links like that post them please...There were great international music videos on one of them too...

Alice said...

Magnetic Internet Words

Alice said...

*If

Alice said...

57 arrests, including ex-defense official, at anti-war rallies

Among those escorted to three police vans was a woman in a wheelchair, a woman in a nun's habit and former Department of Defense official Daniel Ellsberg.

Ellsberg became famous for leaking the classified Pentagon Papers documents to the New York Times in 1971 that revealed the U.S. government had engaged in a pattern of deceiving the public about the number of Vietnam war casualties and the nation's ability to win the conflict.

"I spent this same day in jail in D.C. during 'shock and awe' four years ago, and I'm sorry to say that I did expect the war would still be going on this long," said Ellsberg, 75, moments after his release from San Francisco County Jail, where activists were cited and released.

Alice said...

Die-Ins on Market and Civil Disobedience, photos

Sunshine Jim said...

morfternoon gang!

it's lovely sleeping in!

looks like it might be a fairly nice day here.

we'll see what tomorrow brings on the first day of spring~

blah blah blah said...

hey jim, nothing wrong with avoiding the harmful effects of the suns rays before noon...

blah blah blah said...

Ellsberg became famous for leaking the classified Pentagon Papers documents to the New York Times in 1971 that revealed the U.S. government had engaged in a pattern of deceiving the public about the number of Vietnam war casualties and the nation's ability to win the conflict.

and somethings never change...

Gare said...

"The end of this story hasn't been told; but Marc Maron gave his side to BlatherWatch tonight. "They [Air America] made me an offer. Initially it was unclear what time slot I would fill."

Maron says he considered the offer.

His joy, no doubt was dampened when he learned that the new owners' plans for him were for Sam's 9-ta noon time slot.

He says they were going to switch out Seder into the evening.

Maron says, "Sam did not know this." And after thinking about it, he told Seder."

I thought it was "just a rumor"? Seems Maron is CONFIRMING the fact that ol' Sammy is getting moved...just denying that Marc is getting the slot.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Brooklyn Janitor Arrested In Rape of 8-Year-Old

Gare said...

BTW, how soon will you see that "Hillary as Big Brother" ad pulled from YouTube....and DEFINTELY from this blog (despite the reknown liberal hatred of censorship...hehe)...

the MOMENT Hillary wins the Dem nomination?

Would it be possible to measure it in pico-seconds?

bibimimi troll'p said...

I'll post the character's name when I recall.

.

March 20, 2007 9:16 AM

I'm going with Herbie the Dentist

Anonymous said...

Sam -
Are you familiar with the old time vaudville clown/movie actor Ed Wynn? That's who Glen Beck sounds like to me. Wynn appeared in family-fare movies into the 1960's.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Curse, not a Blessing: N.Y. man lands in jail on gun, drug charges

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Police: Bomb Threat Against NYPD Station Unfounded

Sunshine Jim said...

What Now Toons is doing some professional quality tooning!

http://www.whatnowtoons.com/

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Nearly Two Dozen Arrested After Garden Basketbrawl

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Hey Jim,

Did you see these?

City Vows to Improve Aid to Homeless Families

Homeless - Emergency Assistance Unit

Mentally Ill Boy Kills Himself in Shelter Hotel

Anonymous said...

Something amazing is happening on cspan 2. Conservatives are finally speaking out about the attacks against the constitution.

dada said...

Congress Delves Into FBI's Patriot Act Use
Justice Department Investigator Says FBI Abused Act

Hearings begin on Capitol Hill Tuesday into if the FBI abused the Patriot Act to improperly gather information on U.S. citizens.

Glenn Fine, the Justice Department investigator who revealed the abuses in a report last week, will testify before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. The panel also has also called the FBI's general counsel to testify.

Fine said the general counsel's office failed to adequately supervise the bureau's information-gathering activities.

http://www.nbc30.com/news/11300970/detail.html

Sunshine Jim said...

eya NC!

ya i caught em

and everything else.

i usually read everything

and got to all the links when i can.

working with a sculpture group here locally.

great people, they want some of my Maple blanks

blah blah blah said...

breaking news,

horror of horrors, clinton fired the white house chef when he took over. details at 11.

Sunshine Jim said...

podcasting yesterday's show.

podcasts here:

http://tinyurl.com/ykpysd

Anonymous said...

Sunshine Jim said...
eya NC!
working with a sculpture group here locally.
great people, they want some of my Maple blanks
March 20, 2007 11:10 AM

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

That's a beautiful thing.

Sunshine Jim said...

ya, ain't it?

glad i saved a litle bit of that tree.

spring is about to kick off.

looking forward to it as usual.

found out that some of the heritage trees in the hood are staying.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

See, that's how it works..
If for some reason you become
homeless you go to the Emergency Assistance Unit in the Bronx
where they torment you.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Christ.

Glenn Beck is dirt.

Such twisted, tortured bullshit

Sunshine Jim said...

ya, basically running the same corp/gov line. destroy institutions and then privatize them.

'getting rid of the competition'

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Sounds like "Training Day".

Ex-NYPD Officer Pleads Guilty to Dealing Drugs

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Fed In Hunt For Rap-Pack Gangsta

Sunshine Jim said...

gomes sounds pretty slippery.

feds making him unwelcome at parties.

a little bit of a whole lifestyle being looked at.

guns and dope. just like cheney and co. the competition.

Sunshine Jim said...

glock sure making some nice compact auto's.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Ex-doctor pleads guilty in steroid probe

Sunshine Jim said...

Sam had krugman on yesterday, good interview. whole show pretty dam good. WTG Sammer!

Anonymous said...

Sunshine Jim said...
gomes sounds pretty slippery.
feds making him unwelcome at parties.
a little bit of a whole lifestyle being looked at.
guns and dope. just like cheney and co. the competition.
March 20, 2007 12:00 PM

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

gomes is Cheney's son.
gomes and the rest are Reagan
and Bush's babies.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

They own the night. They
police the streets for the right while the citizens are on lock down.

Anonymous said...

"NC" said...

bbl -

Sunshine Jim said...

ya,

sorta fun lately.

been a while since anyone mentioned my "tinfoil hat"

toniD said...

Afternoon All!
Just home from work.

White House won’t allow Rove, Miers testimony. MSNBC’s Mike Viquiera: “Fred Fielding, he’s the White House counsel, he was just here meeting with the House Judiciary Committee. He made the following to the Congress, both House and Senate. He said Rove and Harriet Miers would be offered to the committees for their testimony in the Alberto Gonzales prosecutors scandal. However, it would be unsworn testimony, not under oath, behind closed doors, and no transcript would be permitted. Now, that is not what Congress is looking for.”

LINK

Schumer says they talk under oath or they will be subpoenaed.

Alice said...

20th century genocides

toniD said...

Congressional Report: Clinton Didn’t Do It Too
Both President Bush and Karl Rove have argued that the administration’s U.S. Attorney purge is a “normal and ordinary” process that was also carried out by President Clinton. ThinkProgress has spent some time debunking this claim, but the Congressional Research Service has put the nail in the coffin.

A CRS report released yesterday examines the tenure of all U.S. Attorneys who were confirmed by the Senate between the years 1981 and 2006 to determine how many had served — and, of those, how many had been forced to resign for reasons other than a change in administration.

The answer:

– Of the 468 confirmations made by the Senate over the 25-year period, only 10 left office involuntarily for reasons other than a change in administration prior to the firings that took place in December.

– In virtually all of those 10 previous cases, serious issues of personal or professional conduct appeared to be the driving issue. Prior to December, for example, only two U.S. Attorneys were outright fired for improper, and in one case criminal, behavior. The CRS report identifies six other U.S. Attorneys who resigned during the 25-year period who were implicated in news reports of “questionable conduct.” For two others, the CRS was unable to determine the cause.

In other words, the Bush administration pushed out almost as many U.S. Attorneys in December as had been let go over the past 25 years.

American Progress fellow Scott Lilly writes on the CRS report:

It is clear that of the four administrations that controlled the executive branch of government during the past quarter-century, only the current administration has held the view that U.S. Attorney can or should be removed absent serious cause. In no instance is there any indication of a removal because a U.S. attorney failed to meet certain political criteria, such as prosecuting cases that were considered too sensitive to partisan issues or failing to prosecute cases that would be helpful from a partisan perspective.

The innovative philosophy of the current Bush administration with respect to the service of U.S. Attorneys is worthy of the attention it is now receiving. Those eight forced resignations threaten the very basis of our justice system — to quote the words written above the pillars on the west front of the Supreme Court, “Equal Justice Under Law.”

LINK

toniD said...

Bush to make statement on attorney scandal at 5:45 EST PM

toniD said...

Sen. Dodd breathes new life into GOP-rejected Pell Grant raise.

LINK

toniD said...

Senate votes to limit Bush’s power on U.S. attorneys. In a 94-2 vote, the Senate today voted to “end the Bush administration’s ability to unilaterally fill U.S. attorney vacancies as a backlash to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ firing of eight federal prosecutors.” The bill will cancel “a Justice Department-authored provision in the Patriot Act that had allowed the attorney general to appoint U.S. attorneys without Senate confirmation.”

UPDATE: Gonzales was supposed to appear before a House committee on Thursday to discuss the Justice Department budget and other issues not related to the U.S. Attorney purge. He just canceled. (Via Atrios)

UPDATE II: House Judiciary Committee to meet tomorrow to authorize subpoenas against Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, Gonzales’ ex-chief of staff Kyle Sampson, Rove deputy Scott Jennings, and others.

LINK

blah blah blah said...

toniD, just got in from the afternoon school pickup and saw the cnn breaking news about testifying but not being under oath. cnn wrote:

-- The White House will allow key presidential aide Karl Rove and former counsel Harriet Miers to be interviewed by committees probing the firings of U.S. attorneys, but they will not testify under oath, Rep. Chris Cannon says.

I was furious when I read it but then just saw your post:

However, it would be unsworn testimony, not under oath, behind closed doors, and no transcript would be permitted.

These bastards are as guilty as the day is long.

Alice said...

That's 20th Century...not just the Bush admin genocides...

i said...

From CNN Breaking News:

-- The White House will allow key presidential aide Karl Rove and former counsel Harriet Miers to be interviewed by committees probing the firings of U.S. attorneys, but they will not testify under oath, Rep. Chris Cannon says.
--

So only Bill Clinton should appear under oath?

When are these people going to stop being exempt from the rules and regulations everyone else has to abide by?

toniD said...

Hi Shell, blah 3!

So they won't testify under oath. Schumer sasy subpoena then.

Now Bush will speak at 5:45 PM EST.

What will he say? If these people get subpoenas, they have to go to congress!! What will Bush try to do to avoid this?

blah blah blah said...

lets hope war with iran doesn't start at 5:45 tonight...

seriously, i would expect gonzo to be gone by the end of the day.

toniD said...

Okay, Bush will use presidential privilege!

They were just discussing this on MSNBC. Time to change Stations...Tucker is on now.

toniD said...

Senate Limits Gonzales' Hiring Authority

Mar 20, 1:05 PM (ET)

By PETE YOST and LARA JAKES JORDAN

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WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to end the Bush administration's ability to unilaterally fill U.S. attorney vacancies as a backlash to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' firing of eight federal prosecutors.

Amid calls from lawmakers in both parties to resign, Gonzales got a morale boost with an early-morning call from President Bush, their first conversation since a week ago, when the president said he was unhappy with how the Justice Department handled the firings.

With a 94-2 vote, the Senate passed a bill that canceled a Justice Department-authored provision in the Patriot Act that had allowed the attorney general to appoint U.S. attorneys without Senate confirmation. Democrats say the Bush administration abused that authority when it fired the eight prosecutors and proposed replacing some with White House loyalists.

"If you politicize the prosecutors, you politicize everybody in the whole chain of law enforcement," said Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.


(AP) Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington before the Senate...
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The bill, which has yet to be considered in the House, would set a 120-day deadline for the administration to appoint an interim prosecutor. If the interim appointment is not confirmed by the Senate in that time, a permanent replacement would be named by a federal district judge.

Essentially, the Senate returned the law regarding the appointments of U.S. attorneys to where it was before Congress passed the Patriot Act, including the unilateral appointment authority the administration had sought in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks.

LINK

Gare said...

Missed 3rd Hour....


Did Sam and Daily Kous-kous get around to blaming Karl Rove for creating the "Hillary-1984" ad on YouTube and trying to "frame poor innocent Barack"?!?!?

toniD said...

i said...


So only Bill Clinton should appear under oath?

When are these people going to stop being exempt from the rules and regulations everyone else has to abide by?

You've got that right i!

They think they are above the law!!

Sunshine Jim said...

Secondary Wars and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century.

tanks A, handy to have that.

good organization of data

an excellent nail in

their coffins.

re: testimony.

bush lied, people die.

remember, these are the same charecters that took down wellstone.

blah blah blah said...

executive privilege = guilty

i don't know why we continue to screw around. its time to impeach the whole bunch of them.

toniD said...

New FBI phone record rules could elimate paper trail. The FBI, “which has been criticized for improperly gathering telephone records in terrorism cases,” has issued new rules for agents who want phone companies to voluntarily hand over their records. “The new instructions tell agents there is no need to follow up with national security letters or subpoenas,” the Washington Post reports. “The agents are also told that the new letter template is the preferred method in emergencies but that they may make requests orally, with no paperwork sent to phone companies.”

LINK

toniD said...

blah blah blah said...
executive privilege = guilty

i don't know why we continue to screw around. its time to impeach the whole bunch of them.

March 20, 2007 1:15 PM

I totally agree. It's way over time to impeach!

toniD said...

FACT CHECK: There Is No Precedent Barring White House Aides From Testifying To Congress
Senate Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VT) has called on Karl Rove and other top White House aides to testify under oath in front of Congress concerning their role in the U.S. attorney purge. A response from White House Counsel Fred Fielding is expected today, but in the meantime, the White House and its allies have put up a fight, arguing that presidential advisers have historically not testified in front of Congress:

White House Press Secretary Tony Snow: Well, as you know, Ed, it has been traditional in all White Houses not to have staffers testify on Capitol Hill. [3/13/07]

White House Counselor Dan Bartlett: I find it highly unlikely that a member of the White House staff would testify publicly to these matters. [3/13/07]

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH): No, I think you’re violating a precedent there that should not be violated. … I believe that under the separation of powers, there are limits to the extent to which Congress can subpoena or demand testimony from those who were closest to the president. [3/15/07]

But in reality, there is no such precedent. According to the Congressional Research Service, under President Clinton, 31 of his top aides testified on 47 different occasions. The aides who testified included some of Clinton’s closest advisors:

Harold Ickes, Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff - 7/28/94

George Stephanopoulos, Senior Adviser to the President for Policy and Strategy - 8/4/94

John Podesta, Assistant to the President and Staff Secretary - 8/5/94

Bruce R. Lindsey, Assistant to the President and Deputy Counsel to the President - 1/16/96

Samuel Berger, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs - 9/11/97

Beth Nolan, Counsel to the President - 5/4/00

In contrast, between 2000 and 2004, Bush allowed only one of his closest advisers, then-Assistant to the President for Homeland Security Tom Ridge, to appear in front of Congress. He has also refused three invitations from Congress for his aides to testify, a first since President Richard Nixon in 1972. Clinton did not refuse any.

CRS also notes that although “White House aides do not testify before congressional committees in a regular basis…under certain conditions they do. First, intense and escalating political embarrassment may convince the White House that it is in the interest of the President to have these aides testify and ventilate the issue fully. Second, initial White House resistance may give way in the face of concerted congressional and public pressure.”

LINK

toniD said...

Lawmakers Threaten FBI Over Spy Powers

WASHINGTON (AP) - Republicans and Democrats sternly warned the FBI on Tuesday that it could lose its broad power to collect telephone, e-mail and financial records to hunt terrorists after revelations of widespread abuses of the authority detailed in a recent internal investigation.

Their threats came as the Justice Department's chief watchdog, Glenn A. Fine, told the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI engaged in widespread and serious misuse of its authority in illegally collecting the information from Americans and foreigners through so-called national security letters.

If the FBI doesn't move swiftly to correct the mistakes and problems revealed last week in Fine's 130-page report, "you probably won't have NSL authority," said Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., a supporter of the power, referring to the data requests by their initials.

"From the attorney general on down, you should be ashamed of yourself," said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. "We stretched to try to give you the tools necessary to make America safe, and it is very, very clear that you've abused that trust."

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angry & indignant said...

Down with these thieves!

They ALL MUST GO, NOW!

Anonymous said...

remember, these are the same charecters that took down wellstone.

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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Alice said...

Maybe if they never impeach, it would be just what's needed to overthrow the two parties & start making room for more choices...

blah blah blah said...

america has become severely fractionalized so it is surprising that a 3rd or 4th party hasn't caught on. that being said i still want to puke when i think about ralph nader and what he did to this country with his 3rd party.

toniD said...

The reason for impeachment is to send a message to future presidents that we will not stand for lying, cheating, and taking away our freedoms. Everything this admin has done in the past 6 years.

Alice said...

Just got work to order the new Jeremy Scahill book about Blackwater...

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/20/1337226

...
Maybe we should talk for a moment about who he is and his background, because it has everything to do with the success of the company. Erik Prince comes from a very wealthy rightwing Christian dynasty in the town of Holland, Michigan. His father was a man named Edgar Prince, who was a sort of pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps capitalist. He built up an empire called the Prince Manufacturing Corp., and they manufactured auto parts, serviced the auto industry. And, in fact, what the company is perhaps best known for was for creating the now-ubiquitous lighted sun visor. So when you pull down the visor in your car and it lights up, that's the Prince family's invention. And it was a very profitable business.

And so, young Erik Prince grew up in this very heady atmosphere that mixed the sort of free-market gospel with the literal Christian gospel. His family, they were strict Calvinists. And Erik Prince was political at a very early age and watched as his father used his company as a cash-generating engine to fuel the rise of what we now know as the religious right in this country, as well as the Republican Revolution of 1994. His father gave the seed money to Gary Bauer to found the Family Research Council. Young Erik Prince was in the first crop of interns to serve at the Family Research Council. They gave significant funding to James Dobson and his group Focus on the Family, which is now sort of the premier evangelical organizing network in this country, the “prayer warriors.”

And what’s interesting is that Erik Prince’s sister Betsy married into another powerhouse Michigan family, perhaps the single greatest bankroller of the Republican Revolution: Dick DeVos’s Amway Corporation.
...

toniD said...

It is evident that Bush does not see the writing on the wall. Even the repubs are voting against him on some things. They must feel safer doing it now. 2 years ago very few would have voted against this admin.

This vote, today, to eliminate the article about States Attorneys should give a clue to him. 94-2!

At this point, this admin would have to try a coup to take over the government.

toniD said...

94 to 2 vote shows how radioactive Gonzales-US Attorneys issue is to GOP
by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/20/2007 02:33:00 PM ET

My God. They didn't just revoke Bush's power to appoint US Attorneys without going through the Senate, they revoked it with a 94-2 vote. That's unheard of, short of voting on mom, apple pie, and Chevrolet. The GOP, the party that never met a filibuster it didn't like, is freaking.
The Senate voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to end the Bush administration's ability to unilaterally fill U.S. attorney vacancies as a backlash to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' firing of eight federal prosecutors.

....the Senate by a 94-2 vote passed a bill that would cancel the attorney general's power to appoint U.S. attorneys without Senate confirmation. Democrats say the Bush administration abused that authority when it fired the eight prosecutors and proposed replacing some with White House loyalists....

Essentially, the Senate returned the law regarding the appointments of U.S. attorneys to where it was before Congress passed the Patriot Act, including the unilateral appointment authority the administration had sought in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks.
(Hat tip, ThinkProgress.)

LINK

toniD said...

Tim Griffin, Karl Rove and Kyle Sampson all look alike.

They've all got that big head, receding hair, chubby face and glasses. They could easily be brothers.

Remember that cartoon character, the Brain, with the big head with the lines and the veins of the brain?

dada said...

Bush vs. The Second Law of Thermodynamics

As national security expert Stephen Flynn observes in his new book, The Edge of Disaster, America’s response to the devastation of New Orleans in 2005 pales in comparison to its response to a catastrophe of a similar scale nearly a century ago, the earthquake that hit San Francisco in 1906. As Flynn notes the problems following Katrina weren’t logistical, they were political and bureaucratic.

A similar sclerosis has afflicted America’s efforts in Iraq. Poor intelligence, a dysfunctional national security decision-making process, Congress’ abdication of oversight, and a myriad of other institutional malfunctions have virtually doomed America’s mission in Iraq from the start. There is more at fault here than just Bush’s bad judgment. Breakdowns have occurred across many levels; corporate corruption, a poorly equipped military, and a compliant media that failed to challenge the rationales for war have all contributed to the mess in Iraq.

There is much tragedy in here. The performance of the U.S. Coast Guard was one of the few bright spots in America’s response to Katrina. Despite being pushed to its limit, the Coast Guard managed to help save thousands without losing a single Guard member. Nevertheless, the Guard manages to scrape by with ships and equipment that are anything but state of the art. Similarly, American troops in Iraq are facing an almost impossible situation – they are effectively trying to stop civil war in Iraq from becoming a region-wide conflagration – but have been shortchanged by an administration that believed it could wage war and do nation building on the cheap. To say that U.S. troops in Iraq have “fought like lions, but have been led by donkeys” -- a verdict ascribed to certain incompetent generals in WWI -- would not be entirely unfair.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_scott_o__070319_bush_vs__the_second_.htm

Not the greatest editorial, but I liked that part. there's some other good ones down the side. "War Without Win: A White Paper On Iran
by William John Cox" is a long one that makes some very salient points.

Anonymous said...

The reason for impeachment is to send a message to future presidents that we will not stand for lying, cheating, and taking away our freedoms. Everything this admin has done in the past 6 years.

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Dream on little dreamer. hahahahahahahaha

dada said...

"he music from the other night is great stuff...the Djamchid Chemirani drumming I loved...If you know more links like that post them please."

+++++

I will.

toniD said...

Bush to fight the subpoenas!

blah blah blah said...

i can't believe that monkey's arrogrance and disregard for democracy. let the subponeas roll. give em the fight they think they want. just make sure we hit them hard enough that they go down with the first punch.

toniD said...

What an arrogant ass Bush is. Tweety calls him colorful! Colorful, my ass. He's every bad adjective you can think of!!!!!

toniD said...

Can't wait to hear the Dems on this.

Bush says it's a fishing expidition. Baloney! If they have nothing to hide, go to congress and testify under oath!!!!

toniD said...

Leahy rejected the offer from the White House. Subpoenas on the way!

toniD said...

Tancredo says time for Gonzales to ‘move on.’ “Gonzales’ legacy at the (Justice Department) has been one of misplaced priorities, political miscalculation, and a failure to enforce the laws which he has sworn to uphold,” Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) said in a statement. “I think that it is time for him to move on.”

LINK

toniD said...

Rove gets touchy. The Kansas City Star reports on President Bush’s visit to a GM plant today:

Besides his considerable security contingent, the chief executive was accompanied by Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and Press Secretary Tony Snow.

A reporter approached Rove to ask him what he thought of rumors that former Missouri Sen. Jack Danforth could replace embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. “How about you go over there and do your job,” Rove replied, pointed back to the media pool.

LINK

toniD said...

White House Won’t Allow Rove, Miers To Testify »
MSNBC’s Mike Viquiera: “Fred Fielding, he’s the White House counsel, he was just here meeting with the House Judiciary Committee. He made the following offer to the Congress, both House and Senate. He said Rove and Harriet Miers would be offered to the committees for their testimony in the Alberto Gonzales prosecutors scandal. However, it would be unsworn testimony, not under oath, behind closed doors, and no transcript would be permitted. Now, that is not what Congress is looking for.”

UPDATE: During a press conference, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) also revealed that the White House is restricting the types of documents that it is willing to release voluntarily. Schumer said the White House is willing to turn over emails between the White House and the Justice Department, and between the White House and third parties, but not intra-White House emails. Schumer explained the problem:

So, if Karl Rove sent a communication to Harriet Miers and said, and this is purely hypothetical, “We have to get rid of US Attorney Lam. Come up with a good reason…” and the only communication we get is the good reason that Harriet Miers sent to the Justice Department.

Later, a reporter argued that Rove and Miers would still be legally compelled to tell the truth even if they weren’t technically under oath. Schumer pointed added by refusing to allow a transcript to be made, “it would be almost meaningless to say that they were under some kind of legal sanction.” Watch it:


UPDATE II: President Bush to speak on the U.S. Attorney purge at 5:30pm ET.

UPDATE III: Read the full White House letter laying out its offer.

LINK

toniD said...

Lousiana's Governor, Kathleen Blanco, not running for re-election
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 3/20/2007 05:26:00 PM ET

Blanco's out. She's not running again this year. Good thing cause she was a disaster. That clears the Democratic field for former Senator John Breaux.

LINK

toniD said...

Bush warns Dems to take offer in firings By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
3 minutes ago



President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath, or risk a constitutional showdown from which he would not back down.

Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm. "Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula for true accountability," said Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, "We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants. ... I proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse."

He added: "There's no indication ... that anybody did anything improper."

Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost during an early morning call to his longtime friend and ended the day with a public statement repeating it. "He's got support with me," the president said.

The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the new authority.

Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican lawmakers.

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blah blah blah said...

We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants...

That seemed just fine with them when Clinton was in the White House. What could possibly be different now?

Anonymous said...

hahahahahahaha. With the body of Fitzmas past barely cold, you strike out on another worthless vendetta. When will you boneheads ever learn. It you want the White House, win an election. What a pack of fools. No wonder AAR is bankrupt and Sam fired!

blah blah blah said...

sniff, sniff, anybody else smell something. oh, i know, it must be TROLL

toniD said...

Anonymous said...
hahahahahahaha. With the body of Fitzmas past barely cold, you strike out on another worthless vendetta. When will you boneheads ever learn. It you want the White House, win an election. What a pack of fools. No wonder AAR is bankrupt and Sam fired!

March 20, 2007 3:40 PM

Today, what you say is empty. It has no bearing on what is happening at all because we will win the election this time unless Bush tries a coup. People are fed up and it's not just the Libs.

So go away little troll. You are now useless.

Anonymous said...

So go away little troll. You are now useless.

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How funny! hahahahahahahaha. This place is a shambles. Nothing buy skin, bones, and pretend. And you still don't know why. Well it makes for great entertainment. Do you have a name for this next vendetta? Fitzmas was cute, and it fit up your ass nicely!

o.b. session said...

But, no matter how much skin and bones....

no matter how few people visit here...

no matter how bad it gets in America....

YOU will still be HERE!

That's because we own you!

You can't stay away!

You are POSSESSED!

toniD said...

Bush lashes out. At a press conference moments ago:

“We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants. The initial response by Democrats unfortunately shows some appear more interested in scoring political points than in learning the facts. It will be regrettable if they choose to head down the partisan road of issuing subpoenas and demanding show trials. And I have agreed to make key White House officials and documents available. I proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse, and I hope they don’t choose confrontation. I will oppose any attempts to subpoena White House officials.”

UPDATE: Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said, “I don’t accept [the White House’s] offer. It is not constructive and it is not helpful to be telling the Senate how to do our investigation, or to prejudge its outcome. … Testimony should be on the record, and under oath. That’s the formula for true accountability.”

toniD said...

Ex-Milan CIA chief goes into hiding over kidnapping of Muslim cleric RAW STORY
Published: Tuesday March 20, 2007

Robert Lady, the former CIA chief in Milan, has gone into hiding, the German newspaper Der Spiegel reports Tuesday. But "to this day, he continues to pay his $4,000 mortgage."

LINK

GOP lawmakers rip 'biased' NASA scientist on warming; 'Free speech is subject to policy'

LINK

Oh look! A GOP person wanting a correct answer on Global Warming!!

Anonymous said...

Kurtz & Beck seemed like a big mutual masturbation session for CNN/Beck's hugely failure of a show.

dada said...

How About a Little Democracy for a Change? By Jason Miller
03/20/2007 02:06:17 PM EST
"Revolution is the Solution"

Shaken to its very core by the ravages of Military Keynesianism, neoliberal economic policies, crony capitalism, corporatism, corruption, and wanton disregard for the Constitution, international law, and standards of human decency, our Constitutional Republic is hanging by a very slender thread.

Even before plutocrats, corporations, lobbyists, and the rest of the malevolent cabal (who together represent a very small percentage of the populace in the United States) acted in concert to further their mutual interests by eviscerating the law of the land, the United States was far from being a democracy. Our Constitution, unique and progressive as it was prior to reactionary forces gutting it, was written as a framework for a limited form of representative democracy.

Like many activists, writers, Leftists, populists, and enraged US Americans of virtually all political stripes, occupations, and races, I have been longing to find a viable means of inciting or collaborating with a mass movement that will force the plutocracy to yield their stranglehold on wealth and power. I have come to the conclusion that dedicated and sustained individual efforts by tens of millions coupled with multiple collective actions carried out by substantial numbers of people will eventually reshape the political and socioeconomic landscape of the United States. If that fails, the increasingly hubristic, avaricious, and emboldened ruling class will most likely face a violent insurrection.

As he will tell you in the interview, Joel Hirschhorn has provided those of us in the "lower classes" with a tangible means of acting in unison to attack the entrenched power structure. His suggested strategy is peaceful, legal, and practical.

Here is Joel giving me the details:

http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2007/3/18/165847/197

toniD said...

Video: Veterans joining anti-war movement growing in number

LINK

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Hi toniD.

Hey Jim,

You around?
I'm thinking of buying a notebook
with an aircard for broadband
wireless internet access, dvd-r/w,
highspeed hd, etc.

Any suggestions?

Bush said...

in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, "We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants. ... I proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse."

He added: "There's no indication ... that anybody did anything improper."
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Crank Bait says that one small advantage to being older than some is that he can clearly hear Richard Nixon's words being echoed in the above statements by George W. Bush.

Nixon defended his team even as he was sacrificing several of them. His most famous sentence, "I am not a crook" sounds a lot like "There's no indication...that anybody did anything improper."

Recently I have heard Tom DeLay hawking his new book. He stands firm on his belief that creating a permanent Republican majority, by hook or by crook, was and is his priority goal.

When party power trumps all other concerns, the political shit hits the subpoena/indictment/impeachment fan.

Tricky Dick resigned in disgrace as a result of an illegal Republican party power play. (Think of it as the political equivalent of a Mafia murderer going down for tax evasion.)

Bush, like DeLay and Nixon before him, is playing with fire. It is more likely that politicians will get away with illegal horse shit when they are not already in the Popularity Poll dumpster and up against the multiple-accusation wall.

Crank Bait says, "Let Bush and his ilk stonewall the demands of Congress. The Bush administration has their shovels. Let them keep digging a deeper and deeper hole."

It worked-out pretty well with Nixon.

dada said...

Friends of the Article V Convention

http://www.foavc.org/index.htm

President Dwight D. Eisenhower also supported an Article V Convention saying: "Through their state legislatures and without regard to the federal government, the people can demand a convention to propose amendments that can and will reverse any trends they see as fatal to true representative government."

Yet fears remain and the myths persist. The antidote for any fear is knowledge, and education is the reason why FOAVC exists. Our goal is to inform all citizens about the convention clause in the Constitution and to provide an electronic town hall where the people can discuss the various issues pertaining to a convention in a calm and rational manner. Our ultimate objective is to generate the 'critical mass' necessary to convene an Article V convention.

We invite you, all patriots and concerned Americans, to carefully review the articles, documents and discussion presented in these pages. If upon careful consideration you conclude, as we have, that an Article V Convention is necessary to preserve the Constitutional Republic - and to prevent Congress from vetoing the will of the people - we invite you to join FOAVC.

overt irony said...

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Rose Mary Woods' acrobatics erased at least five minutes of an eighteen and one-half minute gap in the Nixon tapes.

I wonder who is erasing the White House emails?

If history repeats itself, it will be the fiercely loyal Harriet Miers.

toniD said...

Schwarzenegger Calls Rush Limbaugh Irrelevant
"All irrelevant. Rush Limbaugh is irrelevant. I am not his servant." - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger this morning on the "Today Show," speaking to Campbell Brown.


During the one-on-one interview, the Republican-registered California governor was asked about criticism from Limbaugh and other conservatives that he has become a Democrat in disguise for supporting stem-cell research, mandatory curbs on carbon dioxide emissions and universal health care. Schwarzenegger said he is "the people's servant of California. What they call me - Democrat or Republican or in the center, this and that - that is not my bottom line. This is for them to talk about."

LINK

i said...

The bloody John Loftus show on Nova M Radio / Air America Phoenix.

A damned misinformation artist from Fox News hosting a show on Air America.

Who makes these decisions? He should be fired.

toniD said...

UPDATE: Limbaugh responds, calls the governor a nice guy and a sellout.

Sellout to whom? To Rush? California seems to like him!

toniD said...

US, Israel hold joint missile drill
Missile exercise held to improve "understanding and cooperation."

LINK

Reefer Jello said...

And so Crank, I remind you of my ongoing argument with War Dog that Bush will go down just like Nixon. I told him this two or three years ago and he called me mad!

No man is above the country is what I said and what I say now. Once they start the slippery slide...it's amazing watching them go down!

Alice said...

dell refurbished, nc.....

:)

Crank Bait said...

Reefer Jello,

You are mad. That's beside the point.

Reefer Jello said...

Well, there's truth to that...but less when told so by the Doggie!

Straws said...

It worked-out pretty well with Nixon.

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Once they start the slippery slide...it's amazing watching them go down!

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This has been the left's standard response over the last 6 years. You never learn a thing. You only know one tune and it is way off key.

Reefer Jello said...

It doesn't have anything to do with the left or anything the left says.

Bush's tit is in the wringer the way Nixon's went in, by his own actions and behaivior.

Deflecting anything over to the left is nonsense.

toniD said...

My brother called me while Bush was talking tonight.

His words: "I can't believe it!! What an arrogant bastard!!" and he went on and on.

His last words to me were: "How could people be dumb enough to vote for this idiot"

My brother has never been on this blog or any blog so he doesn't realize that we've been saying what he said and asking the same question for several years.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Thanks Alice.
I'll look into it.
I wonder if there are any refurbs
with Vista? I'll bet the ones with
XP are really cheap.

toniD said...

straws said...

~~
This has been the left's standard response over the last 6 years. You never learn a thing. You only know one tune and it is way off key.
~~

Oh, you mean like how you all talk about and blame Clinton?

Straws said...

Deflecting anything over to the left is nonsense.

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Duh! What law did Bush/Gonzo break? Back to Fitzmas with you until you learn. One must first break a law. Ooops, ya keep forgetting that! Damn the details!

toniD said...

Park Ridge 47 is who made that Hillary Clinton Video.

She lived and grew up in Park Ridge, Il. Wonder if that has anything to do with it.

Alice said...

http://littledemocrats.net/

Why Mommy is a Democrat.....

Reefer Jello said...

Sorry Straws but I can't buy your premise. I wish I could get into it with you for argument's sake but I can't.

I can't stop it from happening and either can you. You might as well just sit back and watch with the rest of us.

It's all in motion now.

toniD said...

An announcement from the Judiciary Committee:

Conyers, Sànchez to Issue Subpoenas for White House Officials

(Washington, DC)- Today, House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, Jr. and Subcommittee Chairwoman Linda Sànchez called a meeting to authorize subpoenas for five current and former White House and Justice Department officials. The Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law (CAL) will meet TOMORROW, March 21st at 10:15 am in 2141 Rayburn House Office Building to consider subpoenas for Kyle Sampson, Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, William Kelley, and Scott Jennings, as well as White House and Justice Department documents, which have not been provided to date.

LINK

Straws said...

It's all in motion now.

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You haven't learned a thing in the last month.

Fitzmas is coming, the goose is getting fat

Please put a penny in the old man's hat

Reefer Jello said...

Straws, what is it with you and Fitzmas?

That's just a little part of the train wreck unfolding.

I remember when people thought Nixon could just do anything and get away with it. We knew he was a cheesy hustler...just like Bush...but nobody believed he'd go down.

Then, it started to unravel. There were people just like you who ranted and raved that he hadn't broken any law....nothing to see here...move on!

But, Nixon went down! Deep down!

Now shit is unraveling for the Prince of Boob!

Sit back and watch!

Alice said...

May the good belong to all the people in the world.
May the rulers go by the path of justice.
May the best of men and their source always prove to be a blessing.
May all the world rejoice in happiness.
May rain come in time and plentifulness be on Earth.
May this world be free from suffering and the noble ones be free from fears

- - Traditional Vedic blessing

Crank Bait said...

Reefer Jello,

No offense intended. I figure that anyone calling himself Reefer Jello can handle a ribbing as comfortably as a Crank Bait can.

If a guy calling himself War Dog were a pacifist, that would be funny, too. Since he is a hawk, I find his name about as funny as Raghead Eradicator.

I've tired of idiots who believe that they can create and execute a Grand Plan to eliminate "other" ideologies from the planet (that includes murderous Islamists, too, among several others). We, as a nation, seemed to shift seamlessly from officially hating Commies to hating whomever was next in line.

The U.S. can barely chip away at much smaller and less ambitious plans. When we get all of the small stuff right, I'll be willing to talk about world domination.

...but not by force.
-------------------------------
Here is my latest Grand Plan idea. Since the military and military ventures seem to be the easiest investment for our politicians, and since the care of injured military personnel seems to be sacrosanct to our politicians, I suggest that we fold the V.A. health care system into a Universal Health Care System.

That way, when it has shortcomings, the politicians will be forced to make it work for ditch diggers and Lieutenants alike.

Straws said...

But, Nixon went down! Deep down!

Now shit is unraveling for the Prince of Boob!

Sit back and watch!


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The glory days for the left wing have nothing to do with Gonzo. No laws have been broken and that is was the key to Fitzmas as well. Scooter tell it straight everyone goes home to dinner.

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. You will be walking all the way to 2009!

Reefer Jello said...

Straws baby...you're yapping!

I don't have time for that nonsense!

Bait...nice idea there.

Love the thing about bringing together the phoniness of American Patriotism and the reality of the need for decent health care for all in an enlightened society.

Reefer Jello said...

Gotta run to store.

BBL

Straws said...

Damn those details, if only Bush would try to cover-up a break-in. Bam you'd have him! But is didn't happen in Plame, and didn't happen with Gonzo. Dream on dreamers. It has nothing to do with Nixon. This place is for pretend and wishing, it is good place for that.

toniD said...

Straws said...
Damn those details, if only Bush would try to cover-up a break-in. Bam you'd have him! But is didn't happen in Plame, and didn't happen with Gonzo. Dream on dreamers. It has nothing to do with Nixon. This place is for pretend and wishing, it is good place for that.

That's why you're here. You're pretending and wishing what you say is true.

Reefer's right. The die is cast so sit back and watch. You may not like what you see.

Crank Bait said...

Straws: "No laws have been broken and that is was the key to Fitzmas as well."
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Read a book, child. Laws are broken every day by the Legislative branch (it's a numbers game), less so by the Executive branch and even less so by the Judiciary.

It is all a matter of who becomes sloppy whilst he is also a target of scorn.

The Legislative has the cover of numbers, like gazelles in a herd.

The few in the Executive stand out like a hunters wearing orange jackets in a green forest.

The Judiciary sees the shit hit the fan every day, so they are a tad more cautious as a group.

Duke Cunningham learned that the cover of numbers is not enough to hide a lame gazelle from a culling.

Spiro Agnew and the Watergate gang and the Irangate gang all learned that the spotlight is a little too bright to hide every shenanigan.

As for Gonzales, does Ed Meese ring a bell? How about John Mitchell?

Bone up on your history. Shit happens. You can't know when shit might happen until you learn to recognize the signs.

dada said...

A Million Deaths in Iraq

http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com/2007/03/million-deaths-in-iraq.html

Straws said...

Spiro Agnew and the Watergate gang and the Irangate gang all learned that the spotlight is a little too bright to hide every shenanigan.

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You ignorant left wing slut. The Watergate burglars were caught in the act. Duh! Tough case to prove huh? Nixon and the boys ran a cover-up. Duh! Bush has broken no law. Your daily bonehead accusations hold no water at all. You try to bend the facts to fit your needs and in the end you looking like morons over and over.

Get a clue, this is nothing like Nixon and Watergate, but that is all you have. A one trick pony. You guys never learn a damn thing.

You all were singing the same tune for a year with Fitzmas. Duh! Same fucking mistake every time!

Over and over and over right into bankruptcy!

Anonymous said...

American Freedom Agenda
Four prominent conservative thinkers are set to launch a campaign "to restore checks and balances and civil liberties protections under assault by the Executive Branch," arguing that, "since 9/11, the President has acquired too much power."

that us from a post on huffington by Melinda Henneberger. nobody else is talking about it.

Alice said...

I dreamt about my ex-boyfriend, (the fireman), last night...made me think of Lisa Stansfield today...she has a pretty voice...

*

http://www.zenin.ru/music/lisa'change.mp3

Change

If I could change the way I live my life today
I wouldn't change a single thing
Cos if I changed my world into another place
I wouldn't see your smiling face

Honey don't you worry, there's nothin to worry for
Cos If I didn't love you I wouldn't be here now
And Iif I didn't want you I would have turned around by now.

You've got to believe me babe, believe that I love you so
Cos if I didn't love you, I would have turned around
And if I didn't wnat you, then I would want you out.

This love, this love has filled me up
Ooh my love I'll never give you up
Cos I'll always want your love

Believing is the answer, the answer to all your fears
When I first said I loved you, I want in for the kill
Now when I say I love you, I mean I always will

This love, this love has filled me up
Ooh my love I'll never give you up
Cos I'll always want your love

If I could change the way I live my life today
I wouldn't change a single thing
Cos if I changed my world into another place
I wouldn't see your smiling face

Crank Bait said...

toniD,

Speaking of history (as I was...not that anyone would notice), my brother proffered a theory recently that still has me wondering.

He suggested that John "Let The Mighty Eagle Get Sore" Ashcroft, who was a relatively minor Republican character on the national scene and who was not likely to gain another powerful political office after losing to a dead Missourian in his Senate campaign, was chosen to be Attorney General to enact some dirty work for the Bush administration and then to step down, taking the scorn with him.

His suggestion implies that the payoff for Ashcroft was to become something bigger than a loser to a dead man in the history books (and to create a lucrative consulting firm as another result), and the payoff to the Bush administration was to have their dirty work done by an Attorney General who would simply go away and take the heat along with him.

I can't come up with a reason why my brother might not be dead-on-the-money with this one?
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(Oh, and Straw: Ignore the above post. It is 'way above your political neophyte head.)

Alice said...

http://www.zenin.ru/music/lisa_change.mp3

Straws said...

(Oh, and Straw: Ignore the above post. It is 'way above your political neophyte head.)

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hahahahahahahahahaha. That is really funny coming from a loser like you. Did you notice you are on blogger! hahahahaha. Not even successful enough to pay for a blog? Do you not see that is a reflection of your foolish left wing views that fail at every turn.

Your network failed. Your show failed. Your blog failed. You are so out of touch now one can even find you here. Miss the link on Sam's blog and you are long gone.

This is another Watergate! What a fucking dope! You are more foolish than this jello moron! I know why you are both here!

Straws said...

You are all like children. Simple, unsophisticated, and wishing for miracles. Well this is the real world kids, there ain't no Santa, no Fitzmas, and no second Watergate. You need to grow up!

toniD said...

I can't come up with a reason why my brother might not be dead-on-the-money with this one?

I can't either. It's smoke and mirrors with this admin. Always has been. Create another problem or crime so you cover the real crime.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

New York Teenagers’ Substance Abuse Drops

Teenage use of alcohol and drugs dropped significantly in New York City in 2005 compared with past years, and is lower than the national rate, but it remains disturbingly high, city officials said today, citing the results of a recently released survey.

The city’s biennial survey found that in 2005, fewer students at the city’s public high schools were drinking or smoking marijuana than at any time since the surveys began in 1997. Use of most harder drugs was roughly unchanged.

But 1.8 percent of students surveyed in 2005 said they had tried heroin at least once, triple the number in 2001.

Lorna Thorpe, a deputy city health commissioner, said it was not clear why there had been an overall drop in drug and alcohol use, but that it might be connected to a decline in teenage smoking. People who smoke are more likely to use other substances, as well.

She said officials were equally unsure of the cause of the rise in heroin use, but that it coincided with a rise in emergency room visits and Emergency Medical Service calls involving heroin.

“That has raised a flag for us, and we’re watching it,” she said. She added that while the data are usually compiled slowly, over more than a year, officials will pay particular attention to the heroin figures as they conduct the 2007 survey.

The change could be tied to the fact that the Taliban regime in Afghanistan greatly curtailed the trade in opium, the raw material for heroin. But the drug became more readily available and cheaper after the regime was overthrown in late 2001.

More >>

Alice said...

Straws said...

You are all like children. Simple, unsophisticated, and wishing for miracles. Well this is the real world kids, there ain't no Santa, no Fitzmas, and no second Watergate. You need to grow up!

March 20, 2007 6:52 PM


*Prrrrrrrrrfffffffffffffffft*

(ew, you cut one)

dada said...

Understanding Empire: Hierarchy, Networks and Clients
James Petras

The imperial system is much more complex than what is commonly referred to as the “US Empire”. The US Empire, with its vast network of financial investments, military bases, multi-national corporations and client states, is the single most important component of the global imperial system (1). Nevertheless, it is overly simplistic to overlook the complex hierarchies, networks, follower states and clients that define the contemporary imperial system (2). To understand empire and imperialism today requires us to look at the complex and changing system of imperial stratification.

Hierarchy of Empire

The structure of power of the world imperial system can best be understood through a classification of countries according to their political, economic, diplomatic and military organization. The following is a schema of this system:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2007/03/20/p15321

Interesting little site.

Anonymous said...

St. Paddy's Parade Turns Ugly in Colorado Springs

I can't believe this!

-conbo

Straw said...

"You ignorant left wing slut. The Watergate burglars were caught in the act."
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The Watergate burglars were caught in the act of a burglary. It was one burglary among thousands in the country at that time. It was written-up in the petty crime section of the local newspaper.

One of the burglars talked. Further investigation ensued.

The rest is history.

If I was your history teacher, you'd be taking my class again next semester.
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Would you like a current day analogy? Tom DeLay; trial delayed (pun intended) because additional charges have been added by the prosecution.

How about another one? Abramoff.

Want another? Gonzales; charges yet to be filed.

Another? Libby. Cheney and Rove implicated, yet to be charged.

Are you beginning to see how this works?

Probably not. Let me make it clearer.

Clinton was impeached based on his lie under oath about a blow job. The legal investigative process went no further because there was nothing further to be learned.

Abramoff? Investigations continue based on information gathered during the effort to obtain his conviction.

Randy "Duke" Cunningham? Same thing.

It ain't over 'til it's over.

Alice said...

Uruguay rejects Bush Trade agreement

The chancellor of Uruguay, Reinaldo Gargano, expressed on Saturday his refusal at the possibility that his country would sign a Free Trade Aggreement(TLC) with the United States, and has reinforced, however, to strengthen ties with the Mercosur. "I am not in agreement that Uruguaygo forward with a Free Trade Agreement with the United States. I am in favor of a better Mercosur; it is necessary for the integration in the region. We have already obtained that Venezuela join and now we want Bolivia to also join", reported Gargano.
In declarations before that Ansa agency in Santiago, Chile, the diplomat commented that the Uruguayan government "is progressive and has its five fundamental programmatic axes, and one of them is integration".
For Gargano, "there is no way to solve the poverty of the region if it is not with progressive policies and regional integration". The possibility of a TLC between Uruguay and the U.S.A. has been shuffled back and forth for months, after the past year Tabaré Vázquez signed two commercial agreements with his counter part George Bush, who many considered a waiting room to another more total agreement.

toniD said...

Tauscher Blasts Bush For ‘Criminal’ Management Of Military, Stands Behind Support For Regime Change
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA) has become a controversial figure in the blogosphere. Yesterday, ThinkProgress sat down with her to discuss her stance on Iraq, among other issues. Tauscher began by telling us that she does not support the Bush strategy of escalation, noting that it is the fourth surge the administration has tried to effect without any success.

Referring to the current state of the strained and overstretched armed forces, Tauscher said, “I think this is a significant criminal dereliction of duty by the Commander in Chief.” She added that classified reports on military readiness are “chilling.”

ThinkProgress asked her whether she still stands behind her statement in the summer of 2002, when she said: “I am convinced that a regime change in Iraq is in the best interest of the United States and also our allies.” “I still think that was true,” she responded. She said her position then and now was that the “appropriate thing to do was to recontain Saddam Hussein” so that “you didn’t have to constantly look over your shoulder.” She said she tried to “slow things down” and avoid the “rush to war,” alluding to her sponsorship of a resolution that tried to delay the war vote until after the November 2002 midterm elections.

Tauscher said, “My constituents at home, while they didn’t want to go to war and didn’t believe we needed to go that far, wanted to deal with Saddam in a kind of permanent way — permanent in the sense that you didn’t have to worry about him in the short term. And I think people generally wanted to have regime change, they wanted to have the Iraqis freed from him.” But “never in my wildest dreams did I believe that that the Bush administration would fabricate information about weapons of mass destruction, cherrypick intel and feed it to the American people and Congress on a silver platter and make the case so significant that it would be irresponsible not to do something.” Watch it:

LINK

air-ono said...

next on the evolutionary scale of talking, informing, educating, whatever with straw-head

is talking with monkeys

in other words, you're talking to an idiot

for no matter what you tell a monkey, his conclusion is always: "give me a banana"

air-ono said...

if //(ew, you cut one)// is not in the top 10 political quotes of the year, or is given some outstanding acheivement award... then i'm afraid all is lost

*
BEAT THAT ONE!, DAILY/KOS

Straws said...

Randy "Duke" Cunningham? Same thing.

It ain't over 'til it's over.

March 20, 2007 7:09 PM

---

Wishin and hopin and thinkin and prayin

Plannin and dreamin each night of his crimes

That won't get him into your arms

---

If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if

...if you had any common sense you would know how childish it is to create impeachment in your mind and twist events to support your goals. Why do you think you ended up in this sorry state? You have no concept of reality. Look around, everything you touch turns to shit!

toniD said...

Cheney’s office involved in global warming manipulation. E&E reports that the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s hearing into Philip Cooney’s editing of global warming reports revealed that Cheney’s office also played a role. Kevin O’Donovan, an aide in Cheney’s office, wrote a memo to Cooney suggesting they try to “reinvigorate debate on the actual climate history of the past thousand years.” Waxman said the Cooney-O’Donovan memo “suggests active coordination between [White House Council on Environmental Quality] and the office of the vice president.”

LINK

toniD said...

Jean Schmidt: Walter Reed scandal ‘overblown.’ A statement from Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH), who infamously called decorated Marine Corps veteran Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) a “coward“:

While I believe that this building is beneath the standard of what is acceptable, I think it is wrong to suggest that mold found behind an air conditioner somehow is an excuse to say that all of our veterans are receiving substandard medical care. […]

I found the situation at Walter Reed to be overblown by both politicians and the media.

As Josh Marshall noted, the Cincinnati Inquirer has a story HERE.

LINK

air-ono said...

just stopped by to have a quick cup'o'tea

and a quick pee on a troll's head

then i'll flee

on the back of a flea

(i pray he goes the right way for a change and doesn't make me jumpy'n'itchy)

Anonymous said...

I am kind of scared

Bush is acting like he has nothing to lose and everything to gain

scary time, it is here

-conbo

air-ono said...

//If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if
If if if if if if if if if if if//

what!?

what then!?

what if!?

what's your point, pointy

Anonymous said...

//if you had any common sense you would know how childish it is to create impeachment in your mind and twist events to support your goals.//

Oh yeah...its so hard to come up with anything Bush has done that would merit impeachment

But I'm sure we'll manage

Creative folk that we are

:)

-conbo

toniD said...

Hey ono, Shell...

If this troll talking about himself? Seems like it to me.

Alice said...

conbo...when you said your kid liked the gif was it this one?

http://www.joepixel.com/common/images_blog/cool.html

toniD said...

The U.S. Attorney document gap. “In DOJ documents that were publicly posted by the House Judiciary Committee, there is a gap from mid-November to early December in e-mails and other memos, which was a critical period as the White House and Justice Department reviewed, then approved, which U.S. attorneys would be fired while also developing a political and communications strategy for countering any fallout from the firings.”

UPDATE: McClatchy and the AP reprint some noteworthy emails from the documents.

LINK

toniD said...

Bush's shadow army
The Bush Administration is increasingly dependent on private security forces to do its dirty work.

LINK

Straws said...

But I'm sure we'll manage

Creative folk that we are

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Exactly!

You all don't know the difference between politics and a crime. Dream on!

What are “High Crimes and Misdemeanors”?

Bribery and treason are among the least ambiguous reasons meriting impeachment, but the ocean of wrongdoing encompassed by the Constitution's stipulation of “high crimes and misdemeanors” is vast. Abuse of power and serious misconduct in office fit this category, but one act that is definitely not grounds for impeachment is partisan discord. Several impeachment cases have confused political animosity with genuine crimes. Since Congress, the vortex of partisanship, is responsible for indicting, trying, and convicting public officials, it is necessary for the legislative branch to temporarily cast aside its factional nature and adopt a judicial role.

air-ono said...

alice, that judge judy-johnny rotten vid!

johnny really was on her show!!!

i was expecting to see some juxtapostion of them

but no, there he was -- the kabuki stare in overdrive

Anonymous said...

conbo...when you said your kid liked the gif was it this one?

http://www.joepixel.com/common/images_blog/cool.ht

Yes! He asks to see the people playing and jumping on the computer.

And then he watches it like its a movie. He is trying to figure it out.

My roomates daughter likes it too

:)

-conbo

air-ono said...

//scary time, it is here//

us brave aussies may have to come over & rescue you

and if we rescue enough of you, we may invade china & it's economic infrastructure, make heaps of money & holiday in france

toniD said...

Feinstein Suspicious Of Another U.S. Attorney's Exit
Associated Press | March 20, 2007 08:17 PM

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record) said Tuesday she wants answers about the departure of the former U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, who resigned last October before the Justice Department's dismissal of eight other U.S. attorneys sparked controversy.

"I have questions about Debra Yang's departure and I can't answer those questions right at this time," Feinstein, D-Calif. and a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters in response to a question. "Was she asked to resign, and if so, why? We have to ferret that out."

LINK

Anonymous said...

//You all don't know the difference between politics and a crime.//

Sometimes the line is very thin, if it exists

But I applaud the newest propaganda in the wake of this obstruction of justice

The US Attorney's Serve At The Pleasure Of The President!

-conbo

Anonymous said...

//and if we rescue enough of you, we may invade china & it's economic infrastructure, make heaps of money & holiday in france//

hahaha!

-conbo

air-ono said...

it's ok now, toni

he won't be sticking tound for long...

for once the big "o" jumps in, trolls shit themselves & flee

Crank Bait said...

Here is another rant from me that no one wants to read.

The spotlight and investigations that reveal the actions of employees/members of an administration or congress could easily function to dissuade good people from serving this nation.

The risk of conviction for illegal acts could ALSO dissuade employees/members of an administration or congress from kowtowing to political assholes who expect them to act illegally.

If we measure the "party first" actions of politicians in power as nothing worse than a waste of taxpayer's money, then righteous whistle blowers are true patriots acting on behalf of fiscal responsibility and, thus, the people at large.
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And so, here is another Crank Bait "Grand Plan". The government is quick to offer a reward for the "arrest and conviction" of certain criminals.

Our laws define crimes according to their monetary value. Often the value is "five-hundred dollars or more".

We could, as a nation, offer a standing reward for the arrest and conviction of any politician who commits an illegal act while also collecting more than $5000 from the "people" for doing his elected job. Or make it $10,000. The amount doesn't really matter because he/she will use up a substantial amount of paid time and government resources whilst perpetrating his/her crime.

We could make the reward a median-cost house in the U.S. area of the whistle blower's choice. Give him/her a median-level income for that area, year after year for life. Give his/her children guaranteed education and health care expenses for life.

Think of it as TIP (Turn In A Pusher) for politics.

air-ono said...

//tound for long//

hmmm...
maybe i meant "around town for long"

Alice said...

air-ono said...

March 20, 2007 7:40 PM

Wasn't that SO Great!!!!!

Man, I sort of wished she ruled against him to see him lay in to her... ;)

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