Tuesday, March 6, 2007

Scooter Libby.....

guilty of 4 out of 5 charges

186 comments:

Anonymous said...

January 15th 2008--- Day after Hillary or Barack wins the Iowa Caucus and the MSM is going ape...

Libby gets pardoned.

January 20th 2008--- Day after "whoever" gets Inaugurated...

Libby starts his $5 Million a year, plus bonuses, job at Halliburton...with retro-active pay!

Anonymous said...

Cynicsusuallyright said...

Sorry, correction

January 20, 200 NINE, Libby gets his new job....my bad!

bibimimi said...

anf the trolls fall silent

Anonymous said...

I can't find your email easily, so I will say it here. Sam - I like most of your show, but PLEASE!!! when you play a quote from someone don't talk or iterject comments over it. I can't hear the quote and I need to so I can understand the topic!
Also, my opinion, more guests, less (or no) callers.

These are constructive criticisms, I hope, not meant cruelly.

Thanks!!

bibimimi said...

GAS!

I just tried to pull up the stream and got the following audio message "Due to popular demand this stream is currently unavailable. Try one of the alternate links".

Anonymous said...

*yawn*

Nail the chimp and/or Cheney.

Minor players are meaningless.

Anonymous said...

It is ASTOUNDING how many
"totally innocent" people
get convicted of shit!

Anonymous said...

Will Judge Walton's sentence of Libby be based on politics or justice? My bet it will be political. In other words a mere slap on the wrist. Here's why:

Judge Reggie B. Walton

Judge Reggie B. Walton assumed his position as a United States District Judge for the District of Columbia on October 29, 2001, after being nominated to the position by President George W. Bush and confirmed by the United States Senate. Judge Walton was also appointed by President Bush in June of 2004 to serve as the Chairperson of the National Prison Rape Reduction Commission, a two-year commission created by the United States Congress that is tasked with the mission of identifying methods to curb the incidents of prison rape. Former Chief Justice Rehnquist appointed Judge Walton to the federal judiciary's Criminal Law Committee, effective October 1, 2005. Judge Walton previously served as an Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia from 1981 to 1989 and 1991 to 2001, having been appointed to that position by Presidents Ronald Reagan in 1981 and George H. W. Bush in 1991.

toniD said...

Another subject...

The Senate Judiciary Committee hearings are turning out to be even more explosive than expected.

David Iglesias says Pete Domenici called him at home to specifically ask about the New Mexico public corruption investigation of a Democrat and whether the indictments would be filed before November.

When Iglesias said no, Domenici said he was very sorry to hear that and hung up the phone, according to Iglesias.

Iglesias said he felt pressured by Domenici and "leaned on." The call made him "sick," Iglesias told the committee, noting that it was "unprecedented" for him to get a call from a member of Congress at home.

Two weeks earlier, Iglesias had received a call from Rep. Heather Wilson while he was in a DC hotel room on DOJ business. That call was also brief, and Iglesias said Wilson asked whether there were any "sealed indictments." Iglesias demurred, and the call ended with Wilson saying she guessed she would have to take his word for it and the call ended, according to Iglesias.

Video up soon . . .

Late update: Here's the video.

-- David Kurtz

toniD said...

CREW has requested an ethics investigation of Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM).

LINK

Anonymous said...

Seriously, did anyone know that Scooter Libby existed prior to this scandal? I didn't... which means that probably 1% of Americans knew about him. Moving on...

toniD said...

Later guys. Need a nap.

bibimimi said...

toniD said...
Later guys. Need a nap.

March 6, 2007 11:24 AM


z-z-z-z--z-z

bibimimi said...

has Air America crashed, or something?

Unknown said...

stream working here

was cutting out earlier


and always when i'm listening closely

actually we got some dam good peeps on our side,

and we're making progress despite the naysayers.

adapting is the main thing we're good at, we'll get through this.

too bad ol war what's his name ain't here to enjoy this...

Anonymous said...

incredulous said...
It is ASTOUNDING how many
"totally innocent" people
get convicted of shit!

March 6, 2007 10:52 AM


Odd?....feel the same way when a discussion of moratoriums on

executions...comes up???

bibimimi said...

David Shuster on MSNBC 2 nite:
"ScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbieScootalibbie..."

Unknown said...

good thinking…

coming soon to computers near you…

from other internets tubes:

“Prairie Sunshine says:
March 6th, 2007 at 10:13 am

Watching MSNBC. Soon as questioning of juror turns to his “fall guy” comment, MSNBC takes away camera. Time for live-video to go with the live-blogging.”

Unknown said...

eya BB!

i smile every time i look at kittenpants.

bibimimi said...

i smile every time i look at kittenpants.

March 6, 2007 12:20 PM

it's kinda cute and kinda nasty, like me.

Anonymous said...

Fitzmas is a bust. Valerie Plame was never under-cover. Joe Wilson is a liar. Two years of hoopla for nothing.

What a JOKE!

Anonymous said...

WHO FOTTID?

Anonymous said...

What a JOKE!

March 6, 2007 12:32 PM

And it's on you and people like you! You sound really pissed! That's a good thing!

Unknown said...

it's a start.

taking attention away from all those federal judges that were poking their noses into high level scams and got canned for it.

why, i haven't thought about that for hours...

Anonymous said...

And it's on you and people like you! You sound really pissed! That's a good thing!

--

You must be kidding. I didn't spend 2 years screaming Fitzmas was the end of Rove. I didn't spend 2 years screaming Fitzmas would impeach Bush. I didn't spend 2 years screaming Rove would be frog marched out of the White House.

No one was ever even charged with outing Plame. It's over! Nothing! A but bust! A monumental joke on the left wing again!

Unknown said...

i get a sense that it's just about to get going real good.

cheney has to be the most loathed VP ever.

amongst the informed of course.

Alice said...

http://americanfreepress.net/html/iraq_aid_missing.html

$12 BILLION IN IRAQ AID MISSING

Bush Administration OK’d Biggest Theft of Taxpayer Money in History

Anonymous said...

I'm walking on sunshine (whoa oh)
I'm walking on sunshine (whoa oh)
I'm walking on sunshine (whoa oh)
And don't it feel good
And don't it feel good

Anonymous said...

Syna is a jagoff!

Anonymous said...

Scooter is heading for prison, and the markets are on fire. The Dow Jones is up 157 points right now.

Unknown said...

breaking news:

Bush Administration theratened vy the Unitarian Jihad.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/04/08/DDG27BCFLG1.DTL

Anonymous said...

No wonder Janeane took off and left you.

March 6, 2007 1:09 PM

But not you! Never! The loathesome you is always here!

Anonymous said...

Now that Fitzmas is a wash-out, you need to get started on your next screwball impeachment plan. Where are all the fools who were talking about Fitzmas now? I would hide too if I was just proven wrong after 2 years of spouting bullshit.

Anonymous said...

No Wonder! said...

No wonder Al ran away.


That's not fair.

Al didn't "run away"....

he used AAR like a Kleenex (along with a copy of Penthouse)...to give him enough power through MidWestPAC to try a run for Senate and not get laughed off the stage.

Anonymous said...

We have at least one hard core crazy inflamed Bushie right wing playa hata that has followed us over to this alley!

Anonymous said...

The United States Supreme Court has held that a pardon can be rejected, must be affirmatively accepted to be effective, and that acceptance carries with it an admission of guilt. Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915).

Remember how Ollie North keeps claiming he was innocent in Iran Contras? Well, accepting a pardon is as good as a confession of guilt. In fact, it is a prerequisite.
--
bjorn

Alice said...

-Well, accepting a pardon is as good as a confession of guilt.-

That's interesting. Thanks.

GBC said...

Just like every clown who Fitzmas was the END!

Unedgumacated, I gather...

Anonymous said...

he used AAR like a Kleenex (along with a copy of Penthouse)...to give him enough power through MidWestPAC to try a run for Senate and not get laughed off the stage.

March 6, 2007 1:19 PM

Yup.

GBC said...

Meet Matt Sanchez, pal of Coulter, O'Reilly and Hannity -- and a gay porn star

Andy at Towleroad tipped us off to the story of conservative star Matt Sanchez that was intially exposed by Joe.My.God. in post titled "Jeff Gannon Redux." That gets your attention, huh?

Seems that in addition to being a star at CPAC and in other right wing circles, including appearances on O'Reilly and Hannity, Sanchez has starred in a number of "films" that probably weren't being shown at CPAC -- or maybe they were:

Now, if you're like me, you might think, "Hmm, 36 years old and he's a junior in college and only a corporal in the Marines?" Odd, but not totally implausible. But Sanchez' face tinkled a few gay bells out there in fairyland, and last night I began to get emails letting me know that his rather late appearance on the Ivy League scene was because Sanchez has had a lengthy career in gay porn, working under the names Rod Majors (NSFW) and Pierre LaBranche, starring in such art films as Jawbreaker.... [This is where it gets not so work place friendly]

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up. Sanchez had a "devoted following" from his film career. One wonders if Sanchez had a devoted following at CPAC?

Joe.My.God is staying on top of this one. He's talked to Sanchez and is expecting an e-mail answering some questions tomorrow.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/

Alice said...

I really think it speaks more about how shitty the government is, than how shitty we, as blogging citizens are....

Anonymous said...

Ha! Cheney's right-hand man gets convicted on 4 counts of obstructing a federal investigation and the trolls are here spraying as if the opposite had happened. They can't even wait to get the talking points. It's delicious, troll-ey goodness! mmmmmmnnnmmmnnnmmmmm!

Does a day pass by anymore where a right wing made guy doesn't either get convicted? indicted? outed? routed and laughed out loud-ed right into obscurity?

Look at all of these Republican morons going down right now all over the place.

Fitzmas!
Hell! This is The Shazzizznitsmas! !

Anonymous said...

m the a-c said...
he used AAR like a Kleenex (along with a copy of Penthouse)...to give him enough power through MidWestPAC to try a run for Senate and not get laughed off the stage.

March 6, 2007 1:19 PM

Yup.

March 6, 2007 1:36 PM

Now AAR knows how Malloy and Maron feel...its a dog eat dog world, I suppose.

Anonymous said...

Ha! Cheney's right-hand man gets convicted on 4 counts of obstructing a federal investigation and the trolls are here spraying as if the opposite had happened. They can't even wait to get the talking points. It's delicious, troll-ey goodness!

---

Oh how we listened to all your Bullshit for 2 years. Oh how you did talk! Nothing! The Plame case is closed.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

You'll never get it right!

Anonymous said...

re: scooter libby

Justice is served! During the six months of country club jail Scooter will be able to write another book about bear rape.

I have a title for him:

Bear Liasions Deu

VizierVic said...

Everybody keeps talking about how Scooter is wealthy and how that's enabled him to help fund his defense. Let's see how long that continues now that he's been convicted of impeding the prosecution of this case and the Wilson's likely slam this scumbag with a civil suit for lost wages, etc. Scooter won't be able to keep off the stand in that trial and his complicity in the case (combined with the guilty verdcit) will guarantee he'll be stripped of any money he's got. He'll be living with OJ by the time it's done. Same thing for Cheney, so long as he doesn't skip for Paraguay!

toniD said...

Four companies to pull ads
from Ann Coulter's website
Ann Coulter may soon be feeling the effects of her remarks at the recent Conservative Political Action Conference in the pocketbook.

LINK

Hit them in the pocketbook!! That hurts more then even being sentenced to jail. They have no scrupples anyway! Take away their money and they are nothing!

toniD said...

Excessive CEO pay shows moral decline: lawmaker By Kevin Drawbaugh
Mon Mar 5, 11:01 PM ET

A Deep South Republican lawmaker with financial market clout said excessive corporate executive pay reflects U.S. ethical and moral decline and warned that most Americans will not put up with it for very long.

In language seldom heard from his party on Capitol Hill, Alabama's Rep. Spencer Bachus (news, bio, voting record) said Americans are disturbed by chief executives "whose pay is not justified by their performance."

"If nothing else, it shows we've had some decline in ethics or our moral behavior. How we address that I'm not sure. It's a situation most Americans will not tolerate for long," he told reporters on Monday after speaking to a group of bankers.

The House Financial Services Committee, on which the Alabama lawmaker is the senior Republican, is set to hold a hearing on Thursday on corporate executive pay.

Committee Chairman Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record) has introduced legislation that would give shareholders a nonbinding vote on pay issues -- a practice common in Britain, but controversial here.

In a sign of how hard the political tide may be turning against chief executives, Bachus said he concurs with the general approach to the issue being taken by Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat.

Bachus said he also fully supports regulatory efforts to make companies disclose more information about executive pay. "The first way to address it is transparency and disclosure. So I think it's been insufficient in the past," he said.

LINK

toniD said...

USAs: Justice Official Intimidation Call Resembled "Possible Obstruction of Justice"
By Paul Kiel - March 6, 2007, 2:06 PM
During his questioning, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) asked all four prosecutors that if they were told by a witness in an ongoing invsetigation that he had received a call similar to the one Bud Cummins got from Michael Elston, the chief of staff to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, what would they think? All four said that they would investigate to see whether obstruction of justice or witness tampering had occurred.

The video:

Anonymous said...

look what I found! part of Scooters manuscript for his second book!-conbo

Bare Bear Liasions Deuce: More Tales From the Cave

by

I. Lewis Innocent-Scooter Libby

Chapter One

A famouse Bear

I have always been fascinated with Smokey the Bear ever since forest fires were first championed by the
far leftists beginning in the 1980's.

What these do gooders did not realize is how erotic Smokey really is. I often dream of him without his overalls. And today I vowed to make the dream come true...

toniD said...

GALLUP: 58% Want Pullout in Iraq Within 12 Months

By E&P Staff

Published: March 06, 2007 9:00 AM ET

NEW YORK A record number of Americans now say that the Iraq war was a "mistake" and less than half say the U.S. can win the war, a record low number, according to a new Gallup/USA Today poll released today. Almost 6 out of 10 Americans (58%) want troops to be withdrawn within 12 months and only 13% support sending more.

Americans are in favor of congressional legislation that would set a timetable for withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Iraq, and 54% want to set a cap on the number of troops.

But only 37% back bills that would cut off funds for troop increases in Iraq and 44% want to revoke authority for the war granted in 2002.

Over three-quarters of Americans support Congress both requiring U.S. troops to come home from Iraq if Iraqi leaders fail to reduce violence in that country and also requiring U.S. troops who served in Iraq to remain home for one year before being redeployed there.

A partisan divide remains. Only 29% of Republicans say the war was a mistake, vs. 84% of Democrats.

The poll was taken March 2-4.

LINK

toniD said...

Democratic lawmakers repond to verdict: 'Don't pardon Libby' Ron Brynaert
Published: Tuesday March 6, 2007

Update: Dean compares scandal to US attorney dismissals and Walter Reed cover-up

Democratic lawmakers are responding to the verdict in the CIA leak case trial which found former White House aide I. Lewis Libby guilty on four of five counts.

At the the Democratic National Committee's website, the following graphic was added to the top of its homepage:

Graphic here

A Wall Street Journal blog noted the "first comment, was simply: “MERRY FITZMAS!!!!"

Reid: Bush must pledge 'no pardon'
A statement issued by Majority Leader Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) referred to revelations in the trial that Vice President Dick Cheney could be implicated further in the outing of former CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson. Reid also implored President Bush not to issue a pardon for Libby.

"I welcome the jury's verdict," Reid's statement said. "It's about time that someone in the Bush Administration has been held accountable for the campaign to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics."

Libby was found guilty of four of five charges, including perjury and obstruction of justice.

Reid continued, "Lewis Libby has been convicted of perjury, but his trial revealed deeper truths about Vice President Cheney's role in this sordid affair."

"Now President Bush must pledge not to pardon Libby for his criminal conduct," Reid's statement concluded.

LINK

toniD said...

Something I haven't seen on the cable news but could become a major problem:

Israel Puts Embassies on Security Alert Following Reports It Kidnapped Iranian
March 06, 2007 2:12 PM

Brian Ross and Hoda Osman Report:

Israel has issued a worldwide security alert to its embassies in the wake of reports it may have kidnapped a top Iranian general in Turkey, a senior Israeli official tells ABC News.

"This could be a reason for the Iranians to respond against us," said the official who said he had no information on the fate of the general. Israel has denied involvement in the disappearance of the general, according to press reports.

General Ali Reza Asgari disappeared in Istanbul in early February. He is thought to have direct knowledge of Iran's nuclear program and its ties to terror groups operating in Lebanon and Iraq.

Iran's official news agency, IRNA, reported today that Iran's top police chief accused Western intelligence agencies for Asgari's disappearance. Police Commander Brigadier General Esmaeil Ahmadi-Moqaddam said that Asgari was probably kidnapped by agents of secret services from Western countries, according to IRNA.

Israeli officials said the security alert issued today was routine "whenever reports appear in the media pointing a finger at Israel."

LINK

Anonymous said...

March 6, 2007 3:10 PM

ToniD,

Until Americans demand a new foreign policy in the Middle East, I'm afraid Israel will continue to lead America down to the road of no return.

toniD said...

God Bless Ann Coulter
When you see Ann Coulter in an interview, you can tell from the vacant, yet feral look in her eyes that she's trying desperately to think of the most outrageous thing possible to say. She's a two year-old who's desperate for attention and she loves it - loves it loves it LOVES IT - when Daddy spanks her. Never mind that fully 91.6% of what comes out of her filthy little mouth is about as coherent as Charles Manson after a week in the sleep deprivation tank. It's not about fact. It's not about truth. It's about LOOK AT ME I SAID A BAD WORD!!!

A few days ago s/he said a really bad word or two, wrapping her lips around John Edwards like he was the last unshaved mule willy on Earth, and gods, has the outcry been deafening. And now the trending iteration: what to do about her? Speak out against her (and for convenience, I will use "her" here). Ignore her. Make fun of her obvious masculinity (not everybody is using "her," it turns out). Stop publishing her rantings. And if you're one of the conservatives who's been enabling her Satan's Little Whore act, you know, for years, offer up hypocritical condemnations and pull the bitch's credentials.

Now, why would they want to do that? And what lesson can we take from the fact that they do want to do it?

Here's the thing. If you're the Dems, the last thing in hell you want is for Ann Coulter to stop talking. When you're arguing with a complete moron, the best strategy is to hand him/her a microphone and stand aside. (Actually, this is the basic Miltonian principle behind America's notions of the value of free speech, so I can't take credit for inventing the idea.) If you're a Republican, it's a bit trickier. Ann was fun when you were passing her around at fundraiser afterparties like a bottle of cheap tequila. She deflowered a whole generation of College Republicans in a series of campus whistlestops, and she actually served a purpose when she was out on the circuit "energizing the base." But damn, now the crazy skank done gone and got noticed by the mainstream, and in a flash she went from everybody's party favor to the party's biggest liability.

LINK

toniD said...

edna ellen poe said...
March 6, 2007 3:10 PM

ToniD,

Until Americans demand a new foreign policy in the Middle East, I'm afraid Israel will continue to lead America down to the road of no return.

I know Edna, but we have to show them why this is important. Looks like, so far, only ABC's the blotter is covering this. The MSM is still ignoring these stories so Americans won't know what is happening to change the policy.

toniD said...

On Libby or Liddy, either one is fine...
No, but really, I find amusing the half-brain dead questions that TV anchors are asking, such as, "why would Libby have lied?" and "what was going on at the White House?" and blah blah blah.

You know, IMHO, there is more than enough to indict a few people, but I am not an attorney and I stopped reporting on this case a long time ago because I realized that we were not going to see the truth fully come out despite the hard work of journalists.

The reality, is that other journalists made it impossible to cover this case because they misrepresented their sources, facts, and provided cover under the banner of protecting sources. As we know, these people were not whistle-blowers or in fear of retaliation. The reporters involved allowed themselves to become an organ of the the White House when they should have been the watchdog. It is thanks to their efforts, that other reporters were unable to fully put this story together. All of that said and back to my original point of the sudden-surprise syndrome now being demonstrated on the boob tube, there is no reason to continue avoiding presenting the facts, is there?

As a journalist, watching this charade as though suddenly, the Iraq war and how we got there is up for question and motive for the leak and other such nonsense I am watching right now, is incredibly disheartening. So here is a three bullet primer that even a five year old can follow:

1. We were lied into war as was the majority of Congress. Learn to use the word lie, because there is no polite way of describing something like a lie.

More here

Anonymous said...

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When Libby flips on Rove. The FBI will frog march Rove out the White House on national TV.

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Anonymous said...

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Mark my words! Fitzmas will bring the evil Bushco to their knees! Impeachment and prison is unavoidable.

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Unknown said...

the trolls are very very very quiet,

and hissing like deflating

week old balloons.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I'm back to listening to Rachel again. Jeff Farias sucks. You don't need conspiracy theories. I'm sure he's nice, but leftwing he isn't.

Unknown said...

ha!

bullseye!

Snark!

Anonymous said...

Ever since I discovered that right wingers were created for my own personal amusement, life has been a lot more fun!

Anonymous said...

Tell us a Fitzmas fairy tale Grandma! Tell us about how Fitz slayed the evil Bushco.
Tell us again how you knew it all along. Tell us how smart you are Grandma!

Anonymous said...

It feels like Gollum is hanging around in here!

Anonymous said...

Like most babies smell like butter
His scent smelled like no other

Anonymous said...

I lie in the soil and fertilize mushrooms
Leaking out gas fumes are made into perfume
You can't fire me because I quit!
Throw me in the fire and I won't throw a fit

Anonymous said...

Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald says the CIA leak investigation was now inactive.

"I do not expect to file any additional charges," he said.

"We're all going back to our day jobs."

toniD said...

Joe Wilson’s Tele-Press Conference
By Pachacutec @ 2:00 pm

Disclaimer: this is NOT a transcript, but my quick, live notes.

2:30 EST

Melanie Sloan of CREW (MS): Thank you for coming. We're very pleased by verdict. Justice served. Valerie and Joe thank the prosecution team. No one above the law.

Civil case will proceed. It's about whether constitutional rights violated by administration. About abuse of power at highest echelons of government. Different from criminal case. Critical to continue to pursue this.

Joe Wilson (JW): We take great comfort that this is a nation of laws. No citizen is above the law. Respect the efforts of Walton and prosecution and jury.

Questions:

Q (John Amato): Congratulations. Will verdict help your civil case, and will Cheney be under further scrutiny?

JW: In aftermath of verdict, no reason for WH to hide behind ongoing trial to avoid questions. Would like to see Pres and VP share with the American people what they told the prosecutor during the investigation. The rest of this question I leave to my attorney.

Q: What new information will come out in the civil trial? Do you worry about chilling effect on the press?

MS: Civil case needs discovery to get additional facts, Libby, Armitage, Cheney others. Civil case is about justification for war and efforts to abuse power to retaliate against the Wilsons.

JW: The press was used and abused by the administration to deceive about rationale for war and then to launch campaign of disinformation against me by spewing lies about my family and me, Then Senior administration officials hid behind confidentiality of sources. Then, when that fell apart, the defense team put on the stand reporters for the sole purpose of humiliating them. Press should rethink efforts to protect sources engaged in disinformation campaigns.

Q: Re: Libby, one admin official is now convicted. Is this tip of iceberg?

JW: Case against Libby was US Government v. Libby. We are pursuing a civil case for three reasons: 1) to get the truth out, get discovery 2) the people whom the public trusted should not abuse that trust in exercise of a personal vendetta 3) use our case case to demonstrate that this type of behavior is unacceptable for future generations.

Q: What does your wife think about all this, and what are your plans for future?

JW: We want to move on. Valerie she has book in the works. We see this as an affirmation that we are a nation of laws. No man is above the law, Valerie has a book, hopefully it will get out soon. We are in discussions with the CIA, at a sensitive point right now. She was a classified officer, CIA argues she remains in some sense classified even though her cover was blown.

More here

toniD said...

Many think that Fitz was trying to get Libby to flip on Cheney and then he would proceed with the investigation and indictments.

Anonymous said...

Syna be crazy!

toniD said...

This is why I think that Bush will pardon him.

Let's see of the Congress has the guts to proceed on an investigation anyway.

Things aren't over til they are over!

Fitz did say there is a cloud over Cheney. Maybe a back handed way of saying there is an opening.

Anonymous said...

Ah, the sweet smell of desperation.
Full court shot at the buzzer! Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Oh, so close! But no cigar!

toniD said...

The Libby Verdict's Long Shadow
The vice president's former chief of staff faces jail time. But his boss, Dick Cheney, becomes a political liability as never before.

by Howard Fineman

March 6, 2007 - The stunning, vehement verdict in the Scooter Libby trial—that he lied, repeatedly, big time—isn’t really about Scooter Libby at all. It is about how and why we went to war in Iraq, and about how Vice President Dick Cheney got us there. Loyalty is everything to President George W. Bush, and I don’t expect him to march into Cheney’s office to demand a resignation. But the veep is a liabiity as never before, and even Bush has to know that.

The Libby verdict now brackets politically—suffocates politically—the Bush Administration’s Iraq policy. One side of the vise was already in place: the vivid, all-too-photogenic story of the human cost of the war to young American men and women. That, story, of course, is about Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the shoddy care given to outpatient casualties there. Now comes the rest of the story: lies that were told to cover up the story of how the war was sold.

Polls show that most Americans have moved on from the question of how we got into Iraq—and are far more concerned about how, and how quickly, we get out. Still, the last thing the administration needed was renewed focus on the genesis of the war.

And that is what we will get. First, Libby’s lawyers immediately announced that he will appeal the four-count conviction for perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice—but the likely length of that process that will keep the story in the news.

LINK

toniD said...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha said...
Ah, the sweet smell of desperation.
Full court shot at the buzzer! Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Oh, so close! But no cigar!

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How does it feel to have the ground fall away from your feet?

You can try to put down what has happened but look around you, things are changing. Not instantaneously, but it is. The world as you knew it a year ago is gone!

Anonymous said...

You can try to put down what has happened but look around you, things are changing. Not instantaneously, but it is. The world as you knew it a year ago is gone!

March 6, 2007 5:43 PM

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Ha ha ha ha ha! What a joke you are. Your world will be shit so long as you spend your life in a mindless pursuit of your Bushco. Everyone else has left this place and is out having fun getting ready for spring. You just spent 2 years posting crap for nothing.

cut-n-paste
cut-n-paste
cut-n-paste
cut-n-paste
cut-n-paste
cut-n-paste

For what? Bushco is having champagne with their lobster tonight and you are wasting you life.

Impechment! Time is running out!

toniD said...

I thank you for your concern about me. But I think you really don't give a damn and are trying to provoke.

Talk about a wasted life! You're here with me! What about your life? Maybe you should read some of what I cut and paste. At least you would be educated as to what your gov't is really up to.

Anonymous said...

No thanks, I'm just here for the Fitzmas party. After they serve the cake I'm out! You libs are real quick running out of ammo for Impeachment gun.

Lesson: Impeachment is much tougher than you thought and not available for political vendettas.

Next time focus on winning the election.

toniD said...

Hagel Suggests Possibility Of Bush Impeachment: ‘He’s Not Accountable Anymore’
According to a new report in Esquire magazine, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) has suggested that Congress may consider the impeachment of President Bush before his term ends:

“The president says, ‘I don’t care.’ He’s not accountable anymore,” Hagel says, measuring his words by the syllable and his syllables almost by the letter. “He’s not accountable anymore, which isn’t totally true. You can impeach him, and before this is over, you might see calls for his impeachment. I don’t know. It depends how this goes.”

The conversation beaches itself for a moment on that word — impeachment — spoken by a conservative Republican from a safe Senate seat in a reddish state. It’s barely even whispered among the serious set in Washington, and it rings like a gong in the middle of the sentence, even though it flowed quite naturally out of the conversation he was having about how everybody had abandoned their responsibility to the country, and now there was a war going bad because of it.

Hagel isn’t the only one frustrated. The desire for more accountability over Bush has led to increasing calls for impeachment from the Washington State legislature, the mayor of Salt Lake City, and town hall meetings in Vermont.

Rep. Jay Inslee (D-WA) said pushing for impeachment would be counterproductive because it would break off efforts to recruit conservative support for changing the course of the war in Iraq. “We’re trying to get [conservatives] to vote against the war. They’re coming around. You don’t hear them singing the virtues of George Bush like they used to. But nothing will turn this into a partisan lockdown faster than impeachment.” Inslee added, “Ending the war is what’s important now.”

LINK

toniD said...

I'd like to see an impeachment but not for what you think. It isn't so much a vencetta than it is a lesson to future presidents that the people of this country will not allow the lies and loss of freedoms. This gov't wants to do away with the constitution.

Unknown said...

the way i figger it

if i spend the next two years

getting to other old republicans like me

to change their vote for a saner goverment

in ANY way i've doubled my effectiveness.

see? typical low expectations.

and lotsa time.

Alice said...

“In all cases, the individual creates his experience. I say this again at the risk of repeating myself because this is a basic fact of all consciousness and existence. There are no special ’places’ or situations or conditions set apart after physical death in which any given personality must have experience.

“Those who understand thoroughly that reality is self-created will have least difficulty. Those who have learned to understand and operate in the mechanics of the dream state will have great advantage.” ~ Seth Speaks, session 546.

Cat Chew said...

Tuesday, March 06, 2007
Air America 2.0 - Day One
Today is the day that Stephen and Mark Green officially take the reigns at Air America Radio, and will also be the beginning of what they call "Air America 2.0."

Under ownership of Green Family Media, majority shareholder Stephen L. Green will serve as Chairman of the Board, and his brother, New York politician Mark Green, will be President, with Scott Elberg staying on as COO. Terry Kelly's Progressive Radio Group and Rob Glaser's Democracy Allies will be minority shareholders.

More here

toniD said...

This convenient blood clot that Cheney got...could it be a way out of being VP for him. Could he use the problem to "gracefully" leave the office without being charged of anything?

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Teen Stabbed in Union Square May Know Attackers

Anonymous said...

toniD said...
This convenient blood clot that Cheney got...could it be a way out of being VP for him. Could he use the problem to "gracefully" leave the office without being charged of anything?

March 6, 2007 6:36 PM

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Too old and frail.
A trial could kill him...

toniD said...

US refuses to join UN rights council, citing its actions against Israel
Published: Tuesday March 6, 2007



The United States will not seek a seat on the UN Human Rights Council, senior officials said Tuesday, asserting the body had lost its credibility with repeated attacks on Israel and a failure to confront other rights abusers.

"While we continue to remain very engaged on the issue on human rights within the UN system, whether that is the General Assembly or the Security Council, we do not plan this year to run for the human rights council," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack.

Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns linked the decision to remain off the year-old council to the 47-member panel's stance on Israel, which he said had "discredited" the body.

"It spent the entire year slamming Israel -- four separate hearings by the Human Rights Council of the UN on Israel, but not against Burma, and not against Zimbabwe, and not against North Korea and not against Iran," Burns told a congressional hearing.

The council was created over the objections of the United States, which said there were insufficient safeguards to prevent human rights-abusing nations from dominating the group. It's members are chosen from among UN states each year.

McCormack did not rule out having Washington run for a seat on the council in future.

LINK

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Lawyer: Alleged hit man couldn't afford cop's murder

Alice said...

Bleh...

Alice said...

Honestly....I wish Sir Real would come here more often...

Alice said...

Crank Bait said...

Maybe that should be: Three gymnasts walk into an uneven bar...

(It's a joke still in Beta.)

March 6, 2007 7:03 PM

Ha! :)

Funny...

Good night, Crank, Toni, SJ, NC..I have some Z's to catch up on...xoxox

toniD said...

Glad you're back Crank!

How was your visit with your bro?

Anonymous said...

Crank Bait said...
toniD said...
This convenient blood clot that Cheney got...could it be a way out of being VP for him. Could he use the problem to "gracefully" leave the office without being charged of anything?
----------------------------------
---Bait News Service---

Cheney Resigns

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

The Oddfather

toniD said...

Good night Shell! Sleep well.

Anonymous said...

Alice said...
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

March 5, 2007 8:47 PM


Thanks, NC...you're right too..they probably will be able to do that b/c they have the power to do it...it's as above, so below when it comes to feds & local govt too..they suck equally...but less.. or more...whatever...I'm rambling...once I get going...

March 6, 2007 2:55 AM

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

You can react.

Or

You can respond.

toniD said...

"Gaylord"? Heh!

toniD said...

The Oddfather

Not bad! I know it's a mobster but so is Cheney.

Anonymous said...

Crank Bait said...
Dr. James Dobson, Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson walk into a bar...

March 6, 2007 7:26 PM

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

http://www.radiocrazy.com/shows/G/GuestStar/016RedSkelton.mp3

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Red Skelton

Anonymous said...

1 out of 6 Americans depend on programs for poor

By Stephen Ohlemacher

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — The welfare state is bigger than ever despite a decade of policies designed to wean poor people from public aid.

The number of families receiving cash benefits from welfare has plummeted since the government imposed time limits on the payments a decade ago. But other programs for the poor, including Medicaid, food stamps and disability benefits, are bursting with new enrollees.

The result, according to an Associated Press analysis: Nearly one in six people rely on some form of public assistance, a larger share than at any time since the government started measuring two decades ago.

Critics of the welfare overhaul say the numbers offer fresh evidence that few former recipients have become self-sufficient, even though millions have moved from welfare to work. They say the vast majority have been forced into low-paying jobs without benefits and few opportunities to advance.

"If the goal of welfare reform was to get people off the welfare rolls, bravo," said Vivyan Adair, a former welfare recipient and now an assistant professor of women's studies at Hamilton College in upstate New York. "If the goal was to reduce poverty and give people economic and job stability, it was not a success."

toniD said...

How Federal ID card
will affect you
Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service.

LINK

toniD said...

I am posting this because it is so true what these news stations think is news!

Why the media passes
off bunk as news
In early February, the lead story on CNN.com – "the most trusted name in news" – was about tattooed fish.

LINK

toniD said...

She told wartime stories of soldiers coming and going on the trains, and of scheduled "meet ups" under the big clock.

I can remember that from my youth. I remeber people talking about meeting under the clock. I guess all train stations have them or had them. Wasn't there a movie about that?

toniD said...

There was a movie named...

The Big Clock circa 1948

THE BIG CLOCK FACTS

In this vintage film noir, crime-rag publisher Earl Janoth (Charles Laughton) tries to tag his editor George Stroud (Ray Milland) with the savage murder of the publisher's mistress when he glimpses the editor skulking out of her apartment. The twist to an otherwise familiar tale is that Janoth assigns Stroud to find the killer, even as the clues start pointing right at the editor himself. Based on Kenneth Fearing's novel, the film was remade in 1987 as NO WAY OUT.

toniD said...

Bush: U.S. making progress in Iraq By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer
Tue Mar 6, 7:13 PM ET

President Bush said Tuesday his decision to send more troops to Baghdad is yielding "gradual but important" progress in Iraq. He portrayed himself as steadfast while Democrats squabble over strategy.

War-weary voters put Democrats in charge of Congress, but lawmakers have not decided how or whether to restrict Bush on Iraq through legislation. Bush seized on that divide and cautioned Democrats not to interfere with military missions.

"Other members of Congress seem to believe that we can have it all: that we can fight al-Qaida, pursue national reconciliation, initiate aggressive diplomacy and deter Iran's ambitions in Iraq — all while withdrawing from Baghdad and reducing our force levels," Bush said in a speech to the American Legion.

"That sounds good in theory, but doing so at this moment would undermine everything our troops have worked for. There are no shortcuts in Iraq," the president said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., said Democrats are determined to lead a new direction on Iraq policy. That includes getting troops home and shifting the U.S. mission from combat to training, troop protection and counterterrorism.

"The war in Iraq is not making our country safer, our military stronger or the region more stable," Pelosi said Tuesday. "In fact, the war in Iraq is the greatest ethical challenge facing our nation."

The war is deeply unpopular. The White House also has been rocked by revelations of shoddy care for wounded soldiers at a premier Army hospital in Washington, angering lawmakers in both parties.

LINK

toniD said...

Coulter Advertisers. More Major Pullouts Today! (Updated Advertiser List w/poll)
by VolvoDrivingLiberal
Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 12:32:20 PM PST

DKudos to the entire DKos community for the fantastic response in contacting Ann Coulter advertisers. Your efforts and our "wins" yesterday clearly prove that grassroots activism can have a powerful impact. Very importantly, however, we owe praise and a debt of gratitude to the responsive, considerate, and customer-centric companies that quickly took action to remove their ads from Coulter's site. Here's a list of our heroes:

Net Bank (Special thanks to Matt Shepherd at NetBank, who was the very first to respond to these concerns, and he responded on a Sunday to boot!)

Verizon Communications (Special thanks to Verizon's James Gerace and others who reacted so quickly and efficiently).

Washington Mutual (Kudos to Iris Glaze in Investor Relations for her quick action).

AT&T/Cingular (Many thanks to Brad Mays in AT&T PR for a fast response)

ING Financial

Dollar Rent-A-Car

SmileTrain.org (Many thanks to SmileTrain Sr. Marketing Mgr. Priscilla Ma for her fast response. If you have a few spare bucks, consider sending some to this great organization that provides surgery and health care assistance for kids born with cleft palates).

University of Phoenix (Another swift responder. Thanks to all the management folks at U of P who quickly reacted).

Sallie Mae

LasikPlus

Power Chord Academy

Gulf Shores.com/Alabama Gulf Coast Convention and Visitors Bureau (Kudos to Shelley Piraino at AGCCVB for a timely and appreciated response)

Ulta.com

Yellow Pages.com

Classmates.com (subsidiary of United Online)

Wireless Foundation

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/6/13130/17765

Anonymous said...

Hey Alice, Jim, ... MRR gang.

Love everybody.

I hope everyone's well.

toniD said...

Crank Bait said...
---A Note To The American Legion---

Question: Who do you not count among your members?

Answer: The nine soldiers who were blown to smithereens in Iraq today.

But, hey...President Bush is here and the bar is open!

---------

Good one Crank!

I'd like to post that one on my blog. Says it all!

toniD said...

Shell is going to be disappointed she missed you si real!

Anonymous said...

Question: Who do you not count among your members?

Answer: The nine soldiers who were blown to smithereens in Iraq today.

But, hey...President Bush is here and the bar is open!

---

We really have no use for you.

---

I am an American Soldier.


I am a warrior and a member of a team.


I serve the people of the United States and live by the Army values.


I will always place the mission first.


I will never accept defeat.


I will never quit.


I will never leave a fallen comrade.


I am disciplined, physically, and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.


I always maintain my arms, my equipment, and myself.


I am an expert and a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.

Unknown said...

What happens if you lose an arm, then how do you maintain your arms With your feet?

Never accept defeat.

toniD said...

Don't forget: Valerie Plame "was a clandestine officer working for the CIA." Outing her compromised national security.
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 3/06/2007 03:34:00 PM ET

Of all people, Wolf Blitzer explained just exactly what the Bush White House did by outing Valerie Plame:
COLLINS: And remind me, Wolf, there was also quite a bit of discussion about whether or not her identity was very well known in the circles of Washington, D.C., and the level of covertness that she held.

BLITZER: I can speak as a reporter here in Washington for 30 years. I did not know that Valerie Plame-Wilson was a covert officer. I didn't even know that Joe Wilson was married at the time.

I'm not sure it was all that widely known what she did, what she didn't do. The fact of the matter is, she had been what they call a knock.

She was not working undercover as a U.S. espionage officer, a CIA clandestine officer working overseas. The CIA had, years earlier, established fake businesses, fake companies for her to go out and recruit spies, foreigners who would help the United States in various capacities. And as a result, she was not working at a U.S. embassy pretending to be a scientific attache or a cultural attache or something else.

COLLINS: Right.

BLITZER: She was out there on her own, working as a clandestine officer, pretending to be an energy consultant, a private citizen, when, in fact, she was an employee of the U.S. government. She was a clandestine officer working for the CIA.

COLLINS: OK.

BLITZER: And that's very dangerous work. And to release that kind of information obviously not only can compromise her, but can compromise a lot of people who might be working and cooperating with the CIA.
Go Wolf.

Releasing that kind of information compromised the national security of our country. The Bush White House chose politics over the safety of Americans.

LINK

Anonymous said...

Hey toniD,...

Thanks.

But, I'm able to stay in touch with Shelly via e-mail or her pscelebrities site. I'm still waiting for the kinks to get worked out on Sam's blog, I guess.
Just happened to check in and read today's blog here. It's better than it was, I suppose.

I hope you and everyone are well.

Unknown said...

"Impeachment is much tougher than you thought and not available for political vendettas."

++++

Impeachment is not a remedy for private wrongs; it's a method of removing someone whose continued presence in office would cause grave danger to the nation.
~Charles Ruff

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Suspect Charged With Murder Of Man Returning From New Year Celebration

Police Search For Robbery Suspect In Queens

Unknown said...

Do you think Bush Jr's continued presence in office would cause grave danger to the nation?

I think if we had a vote on it, the majority of Americans would say yes.

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Bronx men get prison in Utah iPod theft

toniD said...

ABC News: Impeachable Offense
by BooMan
Tue Mar 6th, 2007 at 04:49:53 PM EST

Brian Ross reports on the NSA's routine interception of internet traffic without the benefit of any FISA warrants, and the LA Times' decision to kill the story.

Whistle-blower AT&T technician Mark Klein says his effort to reveal alleged government surveillance of domestic Internet traffic was blocked not only by U.S. intelligence officials but also by the top editors of the Los Angeles Times.
In his first broadcast interview, which can be seen tonight on World News and Nightline, Klein describes how he stumbled across "secret NSA rooms" being installed at an AT&T switching center in San Francisco and later heard of similar rooms in at least six other cities, including Atlanta, San Diego, Los Angeles, Palo Alto, San Jose and Seattle.

"You needed an ordinary key and the code to punch into a key pad on the door, and the only person who had both of those things was the one guy cleared by the NSA," Klein says of the "secret room" at the AT&T center in San Francisco.

Klein went to the Los Angeles Times and provided them with 120 pages of technical data on the illegal NSA snooping. Their editor, Dean Baquet, now the Washington bureau chief of The New York Times, killed the story. Klein now oversees James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and the other reporters that have done the hard reporting on the NSA.


More here

toniD said...

NC, at Crooks and Liars, Thelonias Monk Quartet, Round Midnight

LINK

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Officials: Arson May Be Behind Fire At Historic Harlem Church

Young Women Rob Store In Staten Island Mall

Anonymous said...

toniD said...
NC, at Crooks and Liars, Thelonias Monk Quartet, Round Midnight

March 6, 2007 9:10 PM

(Thelonious... :)

Sounds "Greek" Hahaha.

Anonymous said...

toniD said...
NC, at Crooks and Liars, Thelonias Monk Quartet, Round Midnight
March 6, 2007 9:10 PM

Oops, that was me.

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Hey toniD,

I posted some good stuff. :)

toniD said...

India Outsources Jobs to US
By: Nicole Belle @ 1:50 PM - PST
The irony…thanks to NonnyMouse for the tip.

LA Times: (reg. req'd.)

India has taken thousands of American jobs through outsourcing. Now it's giving a few back.

The Indian government plans to outsource processing of visas (visitor documents, not the credit cards) from its embassy in Washington to a U.S.-based company.

A top embassy official wouldn't say whether the 40 staffers who do the jobs now would be laid off. Many of them are Indian nationals.

"We are not going to let too many go," said Gautam Bambawale, head of political affairs at the embassy.

UC Berkeley professor Harley Shaiken, who specializes in labor issues, said the move "is really a man bites dog kind of story. It's a small irony in an otherwise serious situation."

He said outsourcing of technology help desks, accounting work and even medical procedures played a significant role in the $11.7-billion U.S. trade deficit with India last year.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/06/india-outsources-jobs-to-us/

toniD said...

(Thelonious... :)

Sounds "Greek" Hahaha.

Heh! Sorry I wrote it the Greek way!

toniD said...

Getting tired.

Later

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

Goodnight toniD.

Anonymous said...

Donnie Darko!

Of course!

Unknown said...

Sweet dreams...

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/c/cf/Cthulhudreaming.jpg

Unknown said...

Heya Fish!

Just heading off to dreamland...

Anonymous said...

Crank Bait said...

Maybe that should be: Three gymnasts walk into an uneven bar...

----
... and a tired but relieved Svetlana Khorkina who had just won the All Around Final asked:

“I am queen of the uneven bars and I do not know what is going on here."

----
Wish I knew, Svetlana! What IS going on?

Will the MRR blog be back in operation sometime soon? Any news yet?

Was wondering .... good night, everyone!

Anonymous said...

//Dr. James Dobson, Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson walk into a bar...//

hahaha

very funny Crank Bait

-conbo

Anonymous said...

Bare Bear Liasions Deuce: More Tales From the Cave

by

I. Lewis Innocent-Scooter Libby

Chapter One

A famouse Bear

I have always been fascinated with Smokey the Bear ever since forest fires were first championed by the
far leftists beginning in the 1980's.

What these do gooders did not realize is how erotic Smokey really is. I often dream of him without his overalls. And today I vowed to make the dream come true...


i thought this was damn funny

even if I did write it

a little low brow, but eh

-conbo

Anonymous said...

did i post it to the kos?

yes i did

this will definately wrap up my 'odd' status there

-conbo

Anonymous said...

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

Dancing With Myself, Billy Idol

air-ono said...

going to see the fight tonight:

//Anthony Mundine accuses Sam Soliman of envy and jealousy, and vowed to beat his Melbourne rival 'to a pulp'//

Waiting for Cicero said...

Let's Dance, David Bowie

Anonymous said...

fights eh?

that is so unlike you ono

-conbo

air-ono said...

waits,

connie is more of a dancing queen abba gurl

air-ono said...

should be a good one, connie

Anonymous said...

nice

thanks for the music, Sis

:)

-conbo

air-ono said...

it's trash talk au-gogo

downunder...

that's what i go for
: )

air-ono said...

"if he even dream of me... he gonna wake up an' apologize"

Anonymous said...

:)

are you taking your roomie?

-conbo

air-ono said...

//are you taking your roomie?//

(gulp!)

he's dragging me there

Waiting for Cicero said...

Dancing Queen, ABBA

---

Thanks for the snark, #.

Armando's send off needed it, 'specially at kos' expense.

air-ono said...

Friday night and the lights are low
Looking out for the place to go

CONNIE'S THE DANCING QUEEN

young and sweet

only 17

(i won't morph it into the sex pistols "17")

Anonymous said...

//Armando's send off needed it, 'specially at kos' expense.//

yeh

Armando is like Nobody

funny how the same types appear

really smart people...really
just insecure

that would be me too

-conbo

air-ono said...

waits,

i been listening to tim buckley's "greetings from l.a."

give yourself & the folk here a treat and beam some up

: )

Anonymous said...

i'm so not 17...

although, people think I am in my early twenties

only because i act retarded

;)

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

But I will.

Seventeen (I'm A Lazy Sod, Sex Pistols

(I think)

air-ono said...

this Armando guy was a big player there...

so what damage will it do at dkos

air-ono said...

5 MINUTES TO BLAST OFF

Anonymous said...

//so what damage will it do at dkos//

nothing

his ego got in the way

-conbo

if he was smart he'd come back and apologize

Waiting for Cicero said...

'k.

Get On Top, Tim Buckley
Sorry, ono. Was all I could find from that album.

Waiting for Cicero said...

It won't do any damage, I'll just have to head over to TalkLeft for some of my legal analysis. He's an ass, but terribly talented and intelligent.

Waiting for Cicero said...

Safety Dance, Men Without Hats

air-ono said...

so hordes of armandophiles won't flock over to his rival site...

like i've only read about one of his posts

and yours is a perfect comparison with him and nobody...

brilliant but no people skills

where you grudgingly love them

air-ono said...

//Get On Top, Tim Buckley//

perfect, waits
: )

check this out...

(brb)

Waiting for Cicero said...

F-stop Blues, Jack Johnson

Anonymous said...

//so hordes of armandophiles won't flock over to his rival site...//

nope. markos has got it down. freedom of speech.
wide audience. from little
people to big politicians.

//brilliant but no people skills

where you grudgingly love them//

yup

just like my son's dad

he is freakin' brilliant...

but then he goes off into lala land

I hesitate to use the word
Narcissist...but

yeah

Narcisssists are smart folk

just disconnected

Also-they are varying degrees of Narcissism.

I sometimes think I am one

-conbo

except I really care about things. but i feel overwhelemed a lot and then i am like screw everyone!!!

Waiting for Cicero said...

I'm not denying the parallel, but I believe that Armando is a much better writer, and is probably more educated.

---

Good call on the Buckley.

Anonymous said...

//I'm not denying the parallel, but I believe that Armando is a much better writer, and is probably more educated.//

oh yes, definately

but at the end of the day

if you think everyone is your enemy

what difference does it make?

-conbo

Armando goes into these paranoia, everyone hates me things...

So does Nobs

So does everyone to certain extent

-conbo

air-ono said...

Get on top of me woman
(Yes I talk in tongues)

~lyrics from the song

that's the pic shell put up after our grand tiff...

where she read me the riot act

(it's lucky i got back in her good books or she may have farted on me)

air-ono said...

//Good call on the Buckley.//

the boy's got soul

Waiting for Cicero said...

Overwhelmed? I hear ya. Sometimes I get real close to a panic attack when I think too hard about all of the evil shit occurring on this rock.
"Why, oh why didn't I take the blue pill?"

---

Holes To Heaven, Jack Johnson

"There were so many fewer questions
When stars were still
Just the holes to heaven."

Waiting for Cicero said...

What did you catch the riot act for? Not being real? Or were you just being extra charming?

Anonymous said...

"Why, oh why didn't I take the blue pill?"

hahaha

none of us really have a choice, I think

man.

if I could. i would be this dipshit happy yuppie.

I can't.

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

Pusherman, Curtis Mayfield And The Impressions

Waiting for Cicero said...

I was that happily ignorant yuppie type a couple of years ago. I didn't so much go looking for truth, it was forced on me. It was way easier being a right wing prick. You didn't have to think about consequences beyond money.

Waiting for Cicero said...

For Bob, wherever he is

Wake Up, Rage Against The Machine

Anonymous said...

//didn't so much go looking for truth, it was forced on me.//

yeah. me too.

you know.

i think everyone who has an inkling of the truth really
has a responsibility

I know you are most likely an athiest-and with good reason!!!!

but Jesus had his doubts too

Before he was dragged off to be crucified, he begged God to not let it happen

Garden of Gethsamine

It happened anyway

SO I feel its my responsibilty to not hate people who are just not aware...

And to realize I don't know a damn thing compared to most people...

:)

thats why we need each other

we all have a piece of the puzzle to humanity

-conbo

Anonymous said...

excuse me

being an athiest does not make you anti spirtual

see!!!

i am a dumbass

:)

but we are all related I feel

so to not care about each other is like spitting on your family

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

I am an atheist. Fake Jesus has been dead to me for a while now.

Your Jesus is not that guy. Whether or not he lived, died, rose from the dead, etc., your Jesus is real.

Waiting for Cicero said...

And as for not knowing: In my nearly 27 years, all I know is that I don't know.

I don't necessarily come to the conclusion the same way that you or others do, #, but we are all very much connected, and that means we are responsible to and for each other.

Anonymous said...

something has kept me going...

Allah, the great Spirit, Buddah, Jesus

-conbo

:)

And we are all related. This I feel intensely.
If our Iraqi brothers and sisters are hurting...

so are we

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

-conbo

March 7, 2007 1:59 AM

You are not a dumbass. I am a non-spiritual atheist. I know plenty of folks who are spiritual atheists. I'm quite willing to admit that my beliefs may be completely wrong. Such is life.

Anonymous said...

//but we are all very much connected, and that means we are responsible to and for each other.//

YES! that is it. God/love/science

Just the fact we all share the same planet

Can you imagine? We share the same home and feel we have no reason to preserve it

Something is evil with our culture in America

-conbo

i should go to bed

im glad all this shiite is on a throwaway blog

:)

night Cicero-night Ono

:)

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

And we are all related. This I feel intensely.
If our Iraqi brothers and sisters are hurting...

so are we

-conbo

March 7, 2007 2:05 AM

Yep. And the thing that really fucks me up, is that we can add the foul treatment of nearly every other species on the planet to our resume.

And then I take a few deep breaths and remind myself not to freak out.

Waiting for Cicero said...

Good night, #.

I may be an atheist, but several folks here have taught me a thing or two about spirituality. Every time I get pissed at "the christians", I remind myself that you are one of them, and that there are probably a lot of good people who don't appreciate the things done in their name.

It's what I've always thought of as truly taking the lord's name in vain: saying you're a christian, and acting like an asshole.

air-ono said...

sorry, guys

got...
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i'll have afew choice words for sammer later on tonight

(ciao)

Waiting for Cicero said...

Think I'm done as well.

Many blessings, #, ono.

Anonymous said...

Billy Bragg

Alice said...

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Unknown said...

mornin gang

stream dead, no morning thread?

or do i just need more coffee this morning?

ButlersRide said...

Hey, sorry, there was thread that addressed this ...but... please please please... SAM... get this audio for the show!

http://www.queerty.com/queer/matt-sanchez/matt-sanchez-speaks-out-20070306.php