Tuesday, March 6, 2007

Tuesday on the back up blog

Hearings on the Bush Administration firings of U.S. Attorneys begins.

Mark Winston Griffith from the Drum Major Institute on sub prime mortgages. Kudos Alan Greenspan.

then

Naomi Klein, award-winning journalist and author joins us to discuss her latest piece in The Nation, A Trial for Thousands Denied Trial.

and it's tuesday... Markos joins us.

180 comments:

WaitingForCicero said...

You should check out this story, SEDER. Grab a few extra sigs for the once and future Pres.

: )

WaitingForCicero said...

Also, the back up blog sucks. When do we get our new digs?

WaitingForCicero said...

And go easy on kos. Him and Armando broke up last night, and I'm sure he was up all night crying.

Life's like that she said...

This is it baby. Ain't gonna be no new blog. This is the new blog. Oh, you can go look at the old blog, but the engine don't start no more. You can look at that one, and post on this one.

Life's like that she said...

If the first blog was old Ford, this one is an old mule. We just hitched em both up. Knock the windshield out and down the road we go. No will notice, really. It's done all time in southern Mexico.

Jenise said...

bush's trip to latin america puts those leaders in really uncomfortable situations - meet with him, don't meet with him. it's a lose-lose situation for them. bush and cheney should just stay home. nothing good ever comes from either of them leaving DC.

good morning, waiting

toniD said...

Just a thought...

Cheney's blood clot was found in his "left" leg.

Karma?

toniD said...

Morning all. Been busy at my blog trying to build a timeline for the US Atty story.

Jenise said...

good morning, tonid. you sound busy as always...

the attorney thing IS performance-related then - not performing the tasks the administration wanted...

scott said...

anyone having EXTRA trouble today with the internet stream?????????

toniD said...

Hi Jenise! Evening there isn't it?

Performance issue, yes. This admin is devious and secretive and totally evil.

edna ellen poe said...

Greetings:

Should we take up a collection to fix the old blog? I'm willing to contribute.

CeeCee said...

The Washington Post’s Walter Reed articles is sadly an inch on the tip of the iceberg. I worked five years in an administrative civilian position at Walter Reed years ago; and, more recently, for two years, I assisted Vietnam and Gulf War Vets with their disability claims. So I am somewhat familiar with the whole process. In my opinion, it is an accurate portrayal of the system and what becomes of military personnel who cannot be sent back into field.

When it becomes apparent that the injured and recovering Serviceman or woman will no longer be useful, they are released and sent home to fight the rest of their lives for what they rightly deserve as gratitude from a grateful nation. Certainly, their plight is another justification for universal health care to ensure no service person slips through the cracks and, at least, gets the medical attention likely to be necessary for as long as they live.

In every case I worked on or was familiar with, whether intentional or resulting from time constraints, omission in the service personnel medical records was the most commonly-used excuse for denying or limiting future liability and treatment. The ratings board will use any fragment of information to diminish VA obligation. It was necessary for me to search out and obtain childhood medical records to dispute pre-existing rulings; and I sent requests and performed searches of archival official military records to confirm and verify the Vet‘s service in and relevance to military operations.

Military Service Personnel please keep a copy of your own records. When I worked at Walter Reed, outgoing personnel carried their own records from departing assignments to the newly-assigned location. I assume that is still the practice. But if not, take any opportunity to make and keep a copy of your personnel/medical files for yourself and update it with each new assignment. In doing this, some Vets produced copies that mysteriously were missing from their official files. With a serious medical condition, seek a second opinion from a civilian doctor; and get and keep a copy of that medical record and treatment recommendations. Keep a daily journal listing people, places and things, particularly noting chemical and environmental concerns. List the names of all military personnel you directly report to and all medical personnel that attend to you. There were some instances, medical personnel were able to remember and had even kept personal journals/records of their own. Seek medical attention whenever possible, even for the slightest of concerns. (Michael J. Fox’s PD diagnosis came out of concern for a twitching pinky finger.) But if medical attention is not readily available, record every injury or concern that occurs in the field or on base and anyone who witnessed it in your journal, or in letters home no matter how trivial it may seem at the time. A limp at 52 may be a consequence of a twisted ankle that happened at 21. Any and all information can lead to developing evidence to support a claim. DO NOT OFFER any information not asked for specifically in writing and under oath regarding childhood injuries or medical conditions long since resolved because such a notation will be made and kept in your record and the military will find a way to relate it to and qualify or absolve their obligation. Their justification for denying benefits can be you weren’t perfect before you entered the service. Minor scrapes won’t affect your joining up but will most assuredly be referenced for minimizing or denying your benefits claim.

Mothers/fathers and wives/husbands keep all correspondence and insist on knowing the first and last names of your loved ones’ buddies, those they work with and those they hang with, and where the buddies’ live stateside, and any and all details about everything. Then keep all of it in a safe place. I pray you never need to use it for anything more than a genealogical record.

Anonymous said...

good morning!

i will never buy a home

how can I when I will be living in my new car?

hahahaha

:)

god bless 'merica

-conbo

sea gillan said...

Realplayer went out at the start of the show. Any idea when it may return?

Anonymous said...

hey waiting for cis

thanks for the mojo

:)

-conbo

Anonymous said...

Sorry waitingforcicero....no dice-

By E&P Staff

Published: March 01, 2007 2:00 PM ET

NEW YORK

Former Vice President Al Gore is enjoying a boom in the wake of his Oscar win earlier this week for "An Inconvenient Truth." You'd think that the "Draft Al for President" movement was pretty strong or wide. But is it?

A new Gallup poll released today finds that, actually, relatively few Democrats think he could win the White House next year.

The survey found that 74% thought Sen. Hillary Clinton would have a good or excellent chance to win, with 71% feeling the same way about Sen. Barack Obama. A still healthy 52% gave former Sen. John Edwards this kind of chance. But only 31% gave good or excellent odds on Gore.

Sixty-eight percent give Gore a "slim" or "no" chance to beat a Republican next year.

Even among Democrats only, Gore was seen by only 44% as having a good or excellent shot. This contrasts with 90% feeling that way about Clinton.

The poll of 1,018 adults was taken Feb. 22-25.

daniel said...

Alright, its at the end of this segment but I made it back in, for a little bit at least.

Anonymous said...

Sorry in a hurry on my way to work, and right out the gate--grammatical error:( Insert "are" for "is". Love ya all. Have a good day! Will pick ya up Sam in the office.

air-ono said...

welcome to the walter reed of blogs

((TOTALLY NEGLECTED))

why don't you inform us what's going on, sam

what your plans are for the blog, sam

when it will be operational again, sam

(etc)

daniel said...

I think even Hannity, was embarrased by Coulter this time

air-ono said...

SEDER!

allow right-wing scumbags to harass you on the phone during the show without being able to hang-up

then you'll know what it's like here with the scum that perch here 24/7...

and post their snotty comments

bibimimi troll'p said...

Alan Greenspan tried to sell me a swamp. It was Andrea Mitchell's ethics.

air-ono said...

to //I think even Hannity, was embarrased by Coulter this time//

fuck you're green, daniel

bibimimi troll'p said...

daniel said...
I think even Hannity, was embarrased by Coulter this time

March 6, 2007 6:29 AM

unlikely. he's a shameless sack of assholes.

Anonymous said...

Im planning on putting a pool the trunk of my car

-conbo

bibimimi troll'p said...

what about the scumbag who had the BRILLIANT idea to consider $20 enuf to keep yer credit card bill out of collection at an interest rate of 19.8%?????????

Anonymous said...

bull

they lie to you

all they want is your sig

so they can rob you and rob you and rob

if it's anything like buying a car

bibimimi troll'p said...

people aren't readers...that's what they're counting on.

Steve is prolly is a 20 something schmuck republican.

Anonymous said...

Sam's family does lending?

hahaha

-conbo

Anonymous said...

Hello, folks . . .

I was just sitting here wondering how long it would be before someone called in and said that people need to take responsibility for getting into mortgages they can't handle. Didn't take long!

What about the lenders? Do they have any responsibility? I thought the deal was (like with credit cards) that they were supposed to assume a certain amount of responsibility for who the loan money too.

I'm really sick to death of all the responsibility falling on the consumer. We have fair lending laws because people were getting screwed by long, complicated documents, oral assurances, and fine print. The LENDER knows all the terms; it is quite difficult for MOST BORROWERS to understand every nuance of a contract.

blah blah blah said...

they knew the subprime crisis was coming. thats why passing bankruptcy deform was so important two years ago.

Anonymous said...

//Steve is prolly is a 20 something schmuck republican.//

he's calling in to defend lending practices

something is wrong with his
SOUL

-conbo

Catharine said...

America's Deodorizer? After eight years, Matthews still wowed by Giuliani's ridding NYC of "pee smell"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703050006

During a discussion of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's strengths in the Republican presidential primaries, on the March 5 edition of NBC's Today, Chris Matthews listed among Giuliani's strengths that he "cleaned up the streets of New York so you could walk in the subways without smelling urine" and "made the city safe and clean and smell better."

Media Matters for America has noted previous examples (here and here) of Matthews, host of MSNBC's Hardball, touting the alleged progress Giuliani made in improving olfactory conditions in New York subways when he was mayor, saying that "[y]ou don't smell the urine in the subways when he was mayor" and asking, "How did he get the pee smell out of the subway?" Matthews also previously claimed that Giuliani "got the pee smell out of the phone booths" in New York.

Anonymous said...

//they knew the subprime crisis was coming. thats why passing bankruptcy deform was so important two years ago.//

yes

-conbo

Catharine said...

But Matthews' apparent fascination with the "pee smell" in New York's transit system started even before speculation about Giuliani's presumptive run for president in 2008. Eight years ago, on the February 9, 1999, edition of Hardball, then on CNBC, Matthews said to Michael Tomasky, then of New York Magazine and now of The American Prospect, "The smell that you always got on the subway of urine seems to be gone for some reason," and added, "Even the phone booths smell better." Matthews and Tomasky were discussing whether Giuliani could beat then-first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a U.S. Senate race in New York. In an interview with Giuliani on the March 3, 1999, edition of Hardball, Matthews said that "[t]he subway doesn't smell of urine anymore for some reason," and asked, "How did you stop that smell?"

Jenise said...

tonid, it's almost midnight and i'm still working ... least i don't have an adjustable rate loan to be paying off, i guess.

it never ceases to amaze me the way credit and loans are treated in the US.

Catharine said...

However, in a July 30, 1999, interview, actress and comedian Janeane Garofalo strongly disagreed with Matthews. Matthews asked, "How come that pee smell is gone from the subway that used to be there for the last century?" and added, "He must have done something to clean -- it doesn't smell like that." Garofalo responded by noting that "the urine stench is in full effect in this city," and added that "in the heat wave, it has -- it seems to be exacerbated." When Matthews, a resident of the Washington, D.C., area, insisted that the urine smell was gone, Garofalo, who lives in New York, flatly stated: "You're living in a dream world. It's all over the place."

blah blah blah said...

whats even more interesting than subprime and arms is payday lending.

payday lending is legalized loan sharking. up front it doesn't sound bad, but because they use a fixed fee and a very short period it amounts to interest rates much much greater than that friendly 28% that is priceless.

bibimimi troll'p said...

they let auditors act as paid consultants...like Arthur Anderson. We know how well that went.

bibimimi troll'p said...

FULL EXPLICIT DISCLOSURE, DUDE.

Try reading that Patriot Act before you vote on it while yer at it.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Pissed off, Seder.

No....!

Catharine said...

From the March 5 edition of NBC's Today:

MATTHEWS: I've been saying for years now, "Rudy is the toughest guy to beat," because Republicans are a John Wayne party. They're different than the Democrats. They want a strong, tough, sometimes a pushy, offensive leader. They want a guy who's so strong, you're afraid of him. Rudy makes that standard.

MEREDITH VIEIRA (co-host): But Chris --

MATTHEWS: Rudy is a very strong candidate because the Republicans want a leader to replace George W. Bush very soon. In fact, they really need a leader now.

VIEIRA: Most people, when they think of Rudy Giuliani, think of his performance on 9-11. What else does he bring to the table that the other candidates cannot match?

MATTHEWS: He cleaned up the streets of New York so you could walk in the subways without smelling urine. He cleaned it up so you could bring your kids around the streets at night. He made the city safe and clean and smell better. It was extraordinary what he did in that city.

People are going to remember Rudy was never a nice guy. He's had a messy social life and private life and marital life. All those things -- he's pro-choice.

But the Republican Party is -- Democrats have got to understand this about Republicans. Republicans like leaders. They don't like chaos. Democrats love a little bit of chaos. Republicans want very strong rule, and compared to the other guys running against him, Rudy is the guy with street cred because he was there on the front lines on 9-11, and he's been -- by the way, the crime rate's growing in the big cities now.

pbtrue1 said...

Joel,
I know the AAR Home page blog topics are posted around the time Sam comes on the air.
There are several nasty posts that need to be removed, Porn spammers attack AAR site.
Who is our moderator?

Anonymous said...

im glad I was able to catch
part of the show!!!!

good topic!!!!

have to go

-conbo

Catharine said...

MATTHEWS: We have a country under danger of another attack from terrorism. It could come any time. It could come three months from now, three years from now, three decades from now. But people want a guy in the street corner. You know, when you're riding the subway in the middle of the night, you want a tough cop on that train. That's Rudy's strength. He has a lot of weaknesses, but that's his strength.

blah blah blah said...

i challenge anyone who has ever bought a home to read all the papers you sign at your closing. i have bought homes several times in my lifetime and it is downright amazing that its considered reasonable that a consumer would understand 200 pages of fine print legalese.

its not an endorsement but i haved been a countrywide customer for my current and previous home and they try to do a good job at explaining the whole process. they have always offered an arm [and a leg:)] but as a fiscally conservative progressive i have always taken the 30 year fixed even though i'm an old fart.

Catharine said...

From the February 9, 1999, edition of CNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Well -- well, the plus of the Giuliani administration, like the plus of the Clinton administration, has been manifested. I mean, you could go to New York City today and go to -- and lucky enough to get -- go to see a Broadway play or just walk around the streets to a movie theater at night, and you can tell the city has a whole new tenor. There's a sense of safety. You can walk in the streets late at night with your teenage kids. You have a sense that the city's cleaner. The smell that you always got on the subway of urine seems to be gone for some reason.

TOMASKY: Yeah. All that's true.

MATTHEWS: Even the phone booths smell better.

daniel said...

Im still wondering if Wallstreet may be on the verge of...something....

blah blah blah said...

hey sam, how about arms with balloons? thats a pretty nasty product even though it gives you a manageable product till it explodes on you.

Catharine said...

From the July 30, 1999, edition of CNBC's Hardball:

MATTHEWS: Now tell us now what Rudy Giuliani is really like. Take a couple minutes.

GAROFALO: Having never met him?

MATTHEWS: What's he like as your mayor? We all know our mayors.

GAROFALO: You know, I actually don't know. I guess I like the Disneyfication of Times Square. I appreciate the fact that when I walk through Times Square now at 3 in the morning that I feel a lot better than I did in 1985 when I walked through Times Square.

MATTHEWS: Well, probably the people that bump into you feel a lot better, too.

GAROFALO: I guess. Yeah, I -- I don't know what that means, but I'm going to say, "Yes, I agree with you."

MATTHEWS: That means you're a very pretty woman to be walking around at 3:00 in the morning in New York.

GAROFALO: Oh, thank you.

MATTHEWS: OK. That's what I was --

GAROFALO: Thank you.

MATTHEWS: --thinking. Am I allowed to say that? But anyway, let me ask you this.

GAROFALO: You just harassed me.

MATTHEWS: I -- I d --

GAROFALO: You just totally harassed me.

MATTHEWS: I know. I broke the rules here. Let me ask you this: How come that pee smell is gone from the subway that used to be there for the last century? He must have done something to clean -- it doesn't smell like that.

Catharine said...

MATTHEWS: I know. I broke the rules here. Let me ask you this: How come that pee smell is gone from the subway that used to be there for the last century? He must have done something to clean -- it doesn't smell like that.

GAROFALO: You're saying it's gone?

MATTHEWS: It's gone. The urine smell is gone from the subways now.

GAROFALO: Well, apparently you are in Washington --

MATTHEWS: It used to be in every phone booth and every subway in New York -- and I don't know how it got there but it's -- well, I know how it got there.

GAROFALO: Excuse me. Mr. Matthews --

MATTHEWS: Yes, dear.

GAROFALO: The urine stench is in full effect in the -- in this city. I -- and in the heat wave, it has -- it seems to be exacerbated. I haven't --

MATTHEWS: Well, maybe at 3:00 in the morning --

GAROFALO: -- not passed an area corner without being insulted.

MATTHEWS: --but when I passed through the city streets, I passed around 11:30 at night at the latest, and it's not there yet. Maybe if you wait till 3:00, you pick it up, but I didn't wait that long --

GAROFALO: You're living in a dream world. It's all over the place.

toniD said...

Asia stocks rally after global sell-off

Oil prices rise above $60 a barrel

Stock Market is up:

Dow 12136.85 +86.44 (+0.72%)
Nasdaq 2367.95 +27.27 (+1.17%)
S&P 500 1386.31 +12.19 (+0.89%)
10-Yr Bond 0.453% +0.01

daniel said...

crappy....

Catharine said...

ANd while were at it .. let's talk about credit card interest rates and practices.

Some people are totally screwed if they don't know how to fight back.

It's outrageous.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Catherine:

is it possible that wee-wee smell is in Matthews' nose all the time?

Catharine said...

Today (Tuesday) is our day to lead in the unified phone campaign to get Congress to finally stand against Bush’s unending war in Iraq.

In the last few hours, we’ve learned of a possible amendment to Bush’s supplemental Appropriation request for $93 billion more for Iraq. The amendment, written by our allies, would call for a fully-funded withdrawal of U.S. troops within a set timetable. This would mean that a vote for the appropriation would be a vote against the war. This is an exciting development – a longshot, but worth fighting for.

So when we call our Congress members today, ask them to support a “fully-funded withdrawal with timetable” amendment to the Iraq supplemental. But if such an amendment is NOT adopted, insist that our Representatives vote NO on the supplemental.

Our special toll-free number into Congress is 1-888-851-1879. Mobilize all PDA members and supporters to phone their Congressional offices today.

Jenise said...

catharine, was wanting to ask you...were you in japan at the time of the bilateral US-japan talks about credit - the US pressuring japan to push japanese to use credit more and japan pressuring the US to push americans to save? you know what i'm talking about it? i've heard people talk about it, but i don't think i was hear then. do you know anything about it?

Catharine said...

bibimimi troll'p said...

Catherine:

is it possible that wee-wee smell is in Matthews' nose all the time?

March 6, 2007 6:58 AM

***

... it makes you wonder....

*

... and how did it get there? That's what enquiring minds want to know...

blah blah blah said...

i was told but didn't believe it that you can call a credit card company and ask for a lower rate. its been suggested to use some leverage like you're going to switch to a different card and transfer your balance. unless your credit is really messed up you can normally get a reduction for some period of time.

anyways, i tried it and it works. the cards i use are all down at 8 to 12%.

daniel said...

Marc Maron needs a new full hour special on HBO. A lot's happened since the show I saw last night. And that was like from '05.

Catharine said...

Jenise said...

catharine, was wanting to ask you...were you in japan at the time of the bilateral US-japan talks about credit - the US pressuring japan to push japanese to use credit more and japan pressuring the US to push americans to save? you know what i'm talking about it? i've heard people talk about it, but i don't think i was hear then. do you know anything about it?

March 6, 2007 7:01 AM

I don't know, but I don't really remember it. I am not surprised that they would do that; but the joke is on us (U.S.): Japan has a great savings rate among its citizens, and Americans... well .. we be broked!

Catharine said...

BTW .. I was in Japan in '94 and '95 mostly.

daniel said...

Greenspanwas a student of Ayn Rann and all that

toniD said...

Bush is speaking to the American Legion.
Was created by Congress in 1919, after WWI to help Veterans

I can't believe they are clapping for him.

Gawd is he lying. About healthcare!
Saying it's the bet ever. And meanwhile the House is having hearing on Walter Reed!

daniel said...

extreme oversaturation

blah blah blah said...

hey toniD, market might be up but i think its a dead cat bounce.

i watching my real time streamer and it shot up almost a hundred at open, almost the reverse of what it did yesterday. now its settling into a declining sine wave about 30 points lower than its peak.

i would like today to the eye of a hurricane. it looks calm and safe but the storm ain't over.

Catharine said...

anyways, i tried it and it works. the cards i use are all down at 8 to 12%.

March 6, 2007 7:07 AM

It does work. Same thing goes with any bullshit late fees they try to charge you. Best is never be late, but if something happens call them immediately. They'll waive it. And the kicker is that they may also bump your rate. Ask them if that is going to happen. Show concern about your credit rating.. and they will help you out.

daniel said...

afterwards, you hit a cieling where the wealth being sapped from the common majority, the poor and average, can only suplement this so long. then, it peaks and no cost override profits and the rich are left trading stocks mastabatorily with themselves.bleed starts, dam leaks, they start plugging hole after hole, hundreds of stock brokers scurrying to plug a breaking damn of stored wealth, with no where to go but down crushing everything in its collaps leaving nothing but mud.

Catharine said...

Gawd is he lying. About healthcare!
Saying it's the bet ever. And meanwhile the House is having hearing on Walter Reed!

March 6, 2007 7:11 AM

People!!!

When are you going to stop the insanity?!

Jenise said...

"but the joke is on us (U.S.): Japan has a great savings rate among its citizens, and Americans... well .. we be broked!"

catharine, yeah, i was thinking that japan did introduce the credit cards, and the savings rate is still high...just imagine the US diplomat that had to sit in the meeting and say "we want you to make your people go into debt."

94 and 95? so you were here at the worst of the busted bubble, huh?

blah blah blah said...

i don't know sam, the sec provides some valuable regulatory effect but it takes someone like spitzer to really take it on.

don't get me wrong, i think a ceo or broker who lies should rot in jail, it just doesn't happen very often.

that being said, you can still go broke. just look at last weeks correction or the dot com burst or the crash in the late 90's or the crash in 87 or...

Catharine said...

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac won't even take a subprime mortgage. They're supposed to be the low end of the market. They also don't take larger loans (jumbos). Meanwhile, they are so corrupt it's ridiculous. They are both quasi-govt organizations (although empahasis is on the quasi unfortunately)

daniel said...

now cost pverride profits, (upkeeping houses and big fat jets, the lifestyle)

Anonymous said...

Hey, here's some "bumper music" Sam can play....

"Arise, you prisoners of starvation!

Arise, you wretched of the earth!

For justice thunders condemnation:

A better world's in birth!

No more tradition's chains shall bind us,

Arise you slaves, no more in thrall!

The earth shall rise on new foundations:

We have been nought, we shall be all!

'Tis the final conflict,
Let each stand in his place.
The international soviet
Shall be the human race
'Tis the final conflict,
Let each stand in his place.
The international working class
Shall be the human race!"

---The Internationale

Catharine said...

94 and 95? so you were here at the worst of the busted bubble, huh?

March 6, 2007 7:18 AM

I guess so. Didn't it get a little worse after that? I can't remember.

A friend had told me at the time about the hidden homeless problem. People were quietly starving or getting sick, because out of pride, they would not tell anyone. He had an old girlfriend from High School whose husband had left her with her teenage son. He one day found out that they were living on the street somehow. She was very sick. He put her in the hospital, paid for everything. She died sadly. He set up some funds to take care of her kid.

toniD said...

Greenspan had alot to do with the economy. When they left the Gold Standard and the credit cards came into being is when the shit hit the fan here.

Catharine said...

And let's talk about Mortgage-Backed Securities!

That's Wall Street driving the issuance of MBS and CMOs (Collateralized Mortgage Obligations). They want new issuance so they (Bond salesmen) have something to sell, otherwise, they don't have too good of a year ($$$ wise).

When Greenspan last year was talking about raising rates, and the news about the mortgage market was not as rosy as it had been; MBS salesmen were bumming.

Oddly, despite the bad prognostications and the higher rates ... MBS salespeople are having a decent year ... hmmm....

bibimimi troll'p said...

toniD said...
Greenspan had alot to do with the economy. When they left the Gold Standard and the credit cards came into being is when the shit hit the fan here.

March 6, 2007 7:25 AM

and unchecked corruption will have it's emulators.

Catharine said...

In order to have new issuance of Mortgage-backed securities, that means we need new mortgages issued.

That can either come from people buying homes or from refinancing (i.e. paying off their old loan by getting a new one).

Of course, when a lot of people pay off their mortgage ... that does wacky things to the MBS. It means that the holder of that bond received their money a lot faster (generally; it depends on what piece of the bond you bought)which means your yield is a lot lower than you expected. Not too good.

Jenise said...

. He put her in the hospital, paid for everything. She died sadly. He set up some funds to take care of her kid.

March 6, 2007 7:23 AM

yeah, the pride thing...hiding the fact that you're living on the street, also all the family suicides over the past few years. they've brought teh "big issue" here - the british equivalent of the "street sheet" or whatever they call it in NY. i imagine it was really difficult to get homeless people to sell them, because of the issue of pride. surprised the hell out of me when i first saw someone selling one.

it might have gotten worse after that. the first years of deflation were hard.

Mary from Long Island said...

re: the first caller

He wants people to have personal responsibility for mortgages because his friends brag in front of him YET....

when Sam mentions Neil Bush and the S&L scandal, he was so quick to say

"oh that's before my time!"

He was shrugging his PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!

Dude, you've got a corrupt family in the White House, you don't have the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to google or wiki this family who are leading our country, spending more $ than all other administrations COMBINED?

You don't have an ounce of curiousity about their HISTORY? WHERE'S YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY????

Secondly, this is a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY and PATRIOTISM.

Defrauding fellow Americans and putting them purposely into precarious financial situations is NOT PATRIOTIC. Defrauding fellow Americans in order to make your living is worse than any terrorist - I don't care how many hundreds they kill.

If one of these bastards defrauds Americans day in and day out, they've ruined THOUSANDS of lives and THOUSANDS of families over the course of one career! That's more of a death blow to fellow Americans than any suicide bomb could ever be.

That's not FREE ECONOMY or FREE TRADE - that's ripping people off . "Man up." Face your actions, call it what it is. This behavior is crooked and unethical. Just because the law "allows" it or has only small penalties, doesn't make it RIGHT.

Where's your PATRIOTISM? Where's your regard for your FELLOW AMERICANS?

THESE BASTARDS CONTRIBUTE TO THE DOWNFALL OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY!

THEY'RE TRAITORS.

daniel said...

military tycoons...interesting.war barons.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Mary from Long Island said...
re: the first caller


PREACH IT, MARY!!

Catharine said...

I would like to not only impeach Bush and Cheney, but also hold him to a trial over war crimes and for that matter all his other crimes to his own soldiers.

And then I would like to run him out of this country, freeze his funds and let him see who would take him in.

What do you say?

I say that's more than fair. He still has his life.

i said...

The biggest problem with this version of 'privatisation', is the absolute lack of oversight, follow-up or any monitoring of government expenditures.

All of this would be easily prevented with strong follow-up, and with a linking of achievement and payment.

Donald Trump could do this better. :)

At least he'd know better than not to be all over his contractors.

i said...

Actually, Haliburton's share price, when looked at between the end of 2001 and last year, didn't triple, it increased 8-FOLD and more (from under $5 per share, to well over $40 per share last year).

bibimimi troll'p said...

I say that's more than fair. He still has his life.

March 6, 2007 7:43 AM

He's all ready to drop anchor in lovely Argentina!

toniD said...

He's all ready to drop anchor in lovely Argentina!

March 6, 2007 7:46 AM

Bibi, it's not Argentina, I think it's Paraguay!

DakotaOutlaw said...

This day, Tuesday, March 6, 2007, the Wall Street Journal question of the day is:

Who is most to blame for rising mortgage defaults?

The responses allowed by the Journal: Borrowers, for taking on too much debt; Lenders, for offering risky mortgages; Regulators, for not reining in lending; Someone else

It's far more all of the above and more as far as my answer is concerned.

I have noted, with great disfavor, seductive ads bordering on the lurid to seduce consumers into mortgaging their homes to pay off other loans, thus enticing these consumers into going even further into debt.

Unfortunately, most consumers are poorly educated as far as financial affairs go and lack the discernment necessary to avoid overindebtedness. We also have a fiscally irresponsible national norm to guide us--a federal government hell-bent on one of the wildest spending sprees in our nation's history.

Also, government regulation has been severely cut back and there is little governance over the ethics and interest rates and terms offered by lenders and they (the lenders) have, as one could always be assured that they would do, monstrously abused their newfound freedoms and license.

The current situation is a fine kettle of fish, said fish allowed to spoil and moult in the sun before tossed into the pot--and the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Oh, I also forgot to add that many a solid American job has been outsourced onto foreign soil and many American consumers have found themselves suddenly jobless and unable to meet their credit obligations, another stinking fish in the pot.

toniD said...

Amputee barred from Walter Reed hearing. Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes, “Before yesterday’s hearing, a patient with a prosthetic arm tried to get in but was stopped by a guard, who asked if the young man was supposed to be in the hearing. ‘I’d like to be,’ the soldier said. ‘It’s preselected, unfortunately,’ the guard replied. The young amputee walked away. Inside, three rows of seats had been reserved for the Army; almost all were empty.”

LINK

bibimimi troll'p said...

Bibi, it's not Argentina, I think it's Paraguay!

March 6, 2007 7:49 AM

toni;
no extradition, a plus!!

Padilla is now insane. In our name.

blah blah blah said...

DakotaOutlaw - you forgot where the schedule a deduction for interest paid was changed to only allow it for mortgages (i know its a simplification). this put people who didn't take a 2nd mortgage to pay off their debt at a decided disadvantage.

toniD said...

Another purged prosecutor. Former federal prosecutor Thomas DiBiagio said yesterday that “he was forced out in early 2005 because of political pressure stemming from public corruption investigations involving associates” of Maryland Gov. Bob Ehrlich (R-MD). “There was direct pressure not to pursue these investigations,” DiBiagio said.

LINK

toniD said...

blah blah blah said...
DakotaOutlaw - you forgot where the schedule a deduction for interest paid was changed to only allow it for mortgages (i know its a simplification). this put people who didn't take a 2nd mortgage to pay off their debt at a decided disadvantage.

And that was their intention. Greenspan's realignment of the Fed caused this country and the people to live on debt.

bibimimi troll'p said...

“There was direct pressure not to pursue these investigations,”

From Paulie Walnuts and Carmine Lupertazzi?

bibimimi troll'p said...

is it me, or does the phrase "adequate medical care" leave ya cold?

Sunshine said...

just caught up with the blog.

good posts, good info too!

so. can we do something

with it that works?

blah blah blah said...

bibimimi troll'p said...
is it me, or does the phrase "adequate medical care" leave ya cold?

sure does, just like the cold slab in the morgue...

toniD said...

Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) admitted yesterday that she contacted former U.S. attorney David Iglesias “to complain about the pace of his public corruption investigations.” Iglesias has said that he was fired because he resisted pressure from Wilson and Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) to speed up an investigation against Democrats before the 2006 elections.

LINK

toniD said...

Administration threatens purged attorneys. “A high-ranking Justice Department official told one of the U.S. attorneys fired by the Bush administration that if any of them continued to criticize the administration for their ousters, previously undisclosed details about the reasons they were fired might be released, two of the ousted prosecutors told McClatchy Newspapers.”

LINK

blah blah blah said...

toniD wrote:

previously undisclosed details about the reasons they were fired might be released

ahhh, the pattern repeats. let the character assassinations begin. just remember, in the neoclown playbook, this ones a classic that always works.

bibimimi troll'p said...

This may be uncool to mention, but the US will be releasing alot of volatile head injury vets into our blessed American lifestyle, and I'm sure their liability for neglect is already sheltered.

The kind of marriage counseling vets get now blame the whole magilla on the other spouse.

Jenise said...

“Before yesterday’s hearing, a patient with a prosthetic arm tried to get in but was stopped by a guard, who asked if the young man was supposed to be in the hearing. ‘I’d like to be,’ the soldier said. ‘It’s preselected, unfortunately,’ the guard replied. The young amputee walked away. Inside, three rows of seats had been reserved for the Army; almost all were empty.”

this guy and padilla are the poster boys for this soulless administration...

pinellas said...

Just wanted to mention, I listened to David Bender interview Mark Benjamin on Politically Direct from last week - & apparently Benjamin's been reporting on the VA shortcomings for the LAST 4 YEARS(!)

Talk about lone voices in the wilderness!

Sam, you should get Benjamin on your show too - EVERYBODY on AAR should be interviewing him right now.He said the current attempts to keep the focus on Reed & the physical problems, rather than the systemic problems in the VA nationwide is essentially a ploy - blame-shifting & CYA-ing.....

blah blah blah said...

listening to this caller talk about how far walter reed has fallen, it makes you wonder if there is anything left that the criminals in this administration haven't besmirched and spoiled and ruined beyond repair.

how anyone can take pride in being a conservative is beyond me.

GBC said...

Morning everyone. :)

Smoking Gun: Walter Reed scandal connected to Halliburton & FEMA? [VIDEO]

Not only is the scandalous treatment of American Troops at Walter Reed military hospital connected to Halliburton and Katrina-era FEMA (see video right) but it's also, at its core, a deeply, deeply conservative scandal.

"Privatization," or the transfer of any and all services into the hands of market morality, is a fundamental part of the conservative project.

For its past performance in the public sector, see Energy Crisis, California.

This time, under some shady circumstances, a private firm IAP was given the contract to take over a number of services at Walter Reed, despite the fact that the employees' bid was lower.

Only after IAP "protested" (according to Waxman's letter to General Weightman PDF) was the employees' bid "increased" and the contract awarded to the private firm headed by ex-Halliburton official, Al Neffgen.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/48845/

Anonymous said...

"NEWS CONSUMER" said...

"You don’t understand me, Jose. Kennedy’s not going to make it to the election. He is going to be hit." - Santo Trafficante

toniD said...

CREW files ethics complaint against Sen. Domenici for his role in apparently pressuring purged U.S. Attorney David Iglesias:

The Senate Ethics Manual states that…”Senate offices should refrain from intervening in such legal actions…until the matter has reached a resolution in the courts.” The manual also indicates that Senators are not to communicate with an agency regarding ongoing enforcement or investigative matters.

CREW’s complaint alleges that Sen. Domenici (R-NM) violated Rule 43 by pressuring Mr. Iglesias to act quickly on a pending corruption investigation. Moreover, given that Sen. Domenici made the call shortly before the November elections, he appears to have violated the prohibition on contacting agencies based on political considerations. CREW also alleges that by initially denying Mr. Iglesias’s allegation, Sen. Domenici may have violated Senate rules by engaging in “improper conduct which may reflect upon the Senate.”

LINK

UPDATE: The Senate Ethics Committee has launched a preliminary inquiry.

toniD said...

The "Bush" Conservative Republican:

An Inhofe gem from last week that we missed: “Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) got the crowd [at CPAC] cheering early in the day. ‘I have been called — my kids are all aware of this — dumb, crazy man, science abuser, Holocaust denier, villain of the month, hate-filled, warmonger, Neanderthal, Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun,’ he announced. ‘And I can just tell you that I wear some of those titles proudly.’”

LINK

Verdit in on Libby, will be read EST Noon!

Anonymous said...

You just mentioned Hannity/Coulter. I tuned into his FOX show last night and instead of talking about the outrageious Walter Reed story he has Ann Coulter sitting across from him, defending what she said as a joke.

toniD said...

We have just learned the verdict will be read at noon.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/the-verdict-faerie/

blah blah blah said...

dewey is an asshat. 3 words about the criminal bush and then right away its all about smiting clinton. the best president we had since kennedy.

bibimimi troll'p said...

blah blah blah said...
dewey is an asshat


he's GOT to be a plant. can anyone be that brain damaged without cessation of basal function??

Anonymous said...

Sam

Correction. When a new President takes office, ALL U.S. Attorneys are replaced. All of them tender their resignations (or would be let go) since they served at the pleasure of the outgoing President. The new President appoints new ones all over the country and they are ALL approved by the Senate.

toniD said...

The news is all Libby now.

blah blah blah said...

bibimimi troll'p said...

he's GOT to be a plant. can anyone be that brain damaged without cessation of basal function??

he's a plant or he's got sam's private line. how else can you explain how easy he gets on the air.

toniD said...

Okay, I'm starting a new thread to avoid a crash of the servers. media is in the courtroom. But no lawyers or jury yet.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/the-verdict/

bibimimi troll'p said...

if Libby doesn't bite it...

as a nation, we're DONE.

bibimimi troll'p said...

how else can you explain how easy he gets on the air?

that blowhard HR gets thru alot, too. pretty pathetic calling radio shows to piss on their tent

i said...

Check out the 10 year chart of Haliburton Corporation. The low is below $5 during the last months of 2001, and the high was last year, above $40.

Quote.com

I paid to have bought into the Vice President's company when the planes hit the Twin Towers.

Maybe we should rename Haliburton the "Darth Vader Retirement Fund".

i said...

Correction - I meant 'It paid...', not 'I paid...'.

bibimimi troll'p said...

"Darth Vader Retirement Fund".

Death Star Death Strategy Fund

toniD said...

Guilty on 1, 2, 4, and 5!

Yea!!!!

Jenise said...

guilty on four out of five charges...nice

toniD said...

Count 3, not guilty

blah blah blah said...

he's had a fair trial. can we hang em now? now if only the rest of the dominos would fall.

Jenise said...

on CNN (for whatever that's worth) they're saying being found not guilty on one of the charges makes an overturn on appeal that much more unlikely...

blah blah blah said...

who does the sentencing? is it the same judge that presided over the trial? is he a bush appointee?

toniD said...

He was not guilty on one charge of false statement.

Where's War Dog now....it's FITZMAS!

toniD said...

Libby could get 30 years!

blah blah blah said...

interesting. the dow industrials and nasdaq 100 have been dropping since the verdict was read. are the rats leaving the ship?

toniD said...

Let's see what the WH says now.

You think he'll get a pardon?

But then he has to go through another trial from the Wilsons

Jenise said...

sounds like it's the same judge who does the sentencing - june 5

toniD said...

Sentencing is June 5th. Could get 25 years per CNN

Jenise said...

tonid, do you know if there's any chance that the civil trial will/can go into cheney's role at all?

bibimimi troll'p said...

I don't know why I gasped when I heard the verdict.

I won't gasp when the pardon comes down.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Where's War Dog now....it's FITZMAS!

March 6, 2007 9:11 AM

do they know it's FITZMAS time at all?

toniD said...

firedoglake has crashed!!

I am sure they will have it up soon and we'll get the blow by blow!

toniD said...

Jenise said...
tonid, do you know if there's any chance that the civil trial will/can go into cheney's role at all?

Don't know for sure but that's what I have heard. I'll look for some info and post it to my blog.

toniD said...

MSNBC and CNN said there might be another trial.

toniD said...

Here's the Counts and the verdicts:

Following are the individual charges and their corresponding verdicts:

Obstruction of Justice: GUILTY

False statements to FBI investigators (about Russert conversation): GUILTY

False statement to FBI investigators (about Cooper conversation): NOT GUILTY

Perjury to the Grand Jury (about Tim Russert conversation): GUILTY

Perjury to the Grand Jury (about the Matt Cooper conversation): GUILTY

Jenise said...

thanks, tonid.

i need to get this document done and get to sleep. i'll be following your blog to figure out what's goind on.

shit. major earthquake in sumatra.

toniD said...

Atty Ted Wells speaking now.

"We are very dissapointed on the verdict of the jury!

Ya think?

They will appeal!

toniD said...

Dick Cheney was questioned by a reporter but kept on walking and said nothing.

bibimimi troll'p said...

HOW Could Thom Hartmann NOT know about Wells crying during summation?

toniD said...

To say it was tense in the courtroom as we were waiting for a verdict would be an understatement. My heart was pounding in my chest as it all started to become real for me, all we'd done, how far we'd come.

Libby was stoic and Mrs. Libby daubed her eyes as the verdict was read. Nobody on the prosecution showed much emotion but Zeidenberg held his head in his hands. Libby himself was seated between Wells and Jeffress. He did not move.

Afterwards Mrs. Libby came up and hugged Jeffress profusely, then Wells, saying "love you, love you" with much emotion. Then all the rest of the defense team. She didn't hug Scooter however, or hold his hand, or even make eye contact.

Wells said he would make a statement in the hallway in 10 minutes, and Fitzgerald will give one on the courthouse steps.

It's a good day to be an American, huh?

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/verdict-from-the-courtroom/

blah blah blah said...

toniD said:

Afterwards Mrs. Libby came up and hugged Jeffress profusely, then Wells, saying "love you, love you" with much emotion. Then all the rest of the defense team. She didn't hug Scooter however, or hold his hand, or even make eye contact.

family values.

looks like mrs. libbys gravy train has come to a rather disgraceful end.

bibimimi troll'p said...

criminal conspiracy, si!

What a let-down, Fitz said...

Is that Fitzmas? It's over?

FITZGERALD: 'I DO NOT EXPECT TO FILE ANY FURTHER CHARGES... THE INVESTIGATION IS INACTIVE'

No Cheney? NO Rove? No W? Just one old man for lying? Not even outing the CIA? Just a perjury rap?

Is that all there is, is that all there is?

If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing


Let's break out the booze and have a ball


If that's all there is



And when I was 12 years old, my father took me to a circus, the greatest show on earth.


There were clowns and elephants and dancing bears.


And a beautiful lady in pink tights flew high above our heads.


And so I sat there watching the marvelous spectacle.


I had the feeling that something was missing.
I don't know what, but when it was over,


I said to myself, "is that all there is to a circus?


Is that all there is to Fitzmas?

GBC said...

2 Suicide Bombers Kill 93 in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Two suicide bombers blew themselves up Tuesday in a crowd of Shiite pilgrims streaming toward the holy city of Karbala, killing 93 people in one of several attacks targeting the faithful ahead of a weekend holiday.

The attack came a day after U.S. forces suffered their deadliest day in nearly a month _ nine American soldiers were killed in explosions north of Baghdad, the military said Tuesday.

The coordinated attack Tuesday happened on a main street in Hillah, about 60 miles south of Baghdad, said Capt. Muthana Khalid. He said 93 people were killed and more than 164 wounded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070306/iraq

bibimimi troll'p said...

looks like mrs. libbys gravy train has come to a rather disgraceful end.

March 6, 2007 9:46 AM

bitchin' fur coat, girl...

Sunshine said...

hee!

*

Merry Fitzmas gang!

the blogs that could, would and did.

the trolls are quiet…

GBC said...

Libby Verdict Vindicates Bush!

Let no one spin the Libby verdict as a black eye for George W. Bush.

When George W. Bush campaigned for the presidency in 2000 he pledge Americans that he would "restore dignity and honor to the White House".

With the conviction today of Vice President Cheney's former Chief of Staff - Lewis "Scooter" Libby - on two counts of perjury, one count of making a false statement and one count of obstruction of justice - George W. Bush can hold his head high.

He HAS "restored the dignity and honor" that the White House had... during the presidency of Richard M. Nixon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-lewis/libby-verdict-vindicates-_b_42763.html

pinellas said...

Oh ding-dong!!! Mark Benjamin was on Counterspin - not PD - sorry for the mixup - I had both podcasts on my MP3 player.... = S

GBC said...

Fox News Analysts: Libby Verdict Flawed, No Underlying Crime

In the wake of the Libby verdict, Fox News has wheeled out a brigade of legal analysts and their usual TV hosts, all of whom are reaching oddly similar conclusions: The verdict is flawed, and there was no underlying crime. A sampling is below.

LINK

btw, who IS this asshat on Thom's show?

Alice said...

For any interested techie type....

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Which external drive is the best deal on this page please?

No crime No foul? said...

Sunshine said...
hee!
*
Merry Fitzmas gang!
the blogs that could, would and did.
the trolls are quiet…

March 6, 2007 10:04 AM

--

Well I don't know about you, but I am disgusted! So who was that outted the Plame? And are they going to jail? Who the fuck give a shit about "Scooter", Fitz let em all walk!

toniD said...

Fitzgerald interview, from firedoglake:

The jury worked very long and hard and deliberated to find a verdict of guilty on four of five counts

The prosecutors behind me logged in a lot of hours on this case, and with that I'll take questions.

What is now clear, we knew that Mr. Libby had told a story. What is now public is that the FBI had learned that Russert did not and could not have told Libby the information regarding Mrs. Wilson. As prosecutors, we could not walk away from the fact that Libby was lying to federal investigators and the grand jury. Seems to me that no responsible prosecutor could walk away from that — the facts justify themselves.

The role of the Vice President? Any lie under oath is serious. We cannot tolerate perjury. The truth is what drives our judicial system. If someone tells a lie under oath, it is every prosecutor's duty to pursue that case. It is obviously a serious matter when a high level official does that under a national security investigation — it should never be tolerated.

Is there still information about the Vice President that you do not know? No one is above the law, no one gets less protection under the law. And we do not talk about someone who is not in the legal system in the case at bar. All we'll say is that Mr. Libby by lying and obstructing justice harmed the process.

Cloud over Vice President and over WH? Does it remain? Fitzgerald says that what he argued in court stands. Says he was responding to the defense argument, says he responded fairly and honestly — and that cloud was caused by Libby lying to the investigators and the grand jury. It was aggravated by Mr. Libby telling falsehoods.

Is your investigation over now? Fitzgerald says that he does not expect to file any further charges.
If information comes to light or if new information comes forward that warrants further investigation, we will do that. The case is now inactive. We are going back to our day jobs.

toniD said...

It still hurt this admin, and there will be other questions and the Wilson trial could bring others in!

GBC said...

Poll: Israel, Iran, U.S. have most negative image

Attitudes toward Canada, Japan were best in survey of 12 major nations

LONDON - Israel, Iran and the United States were the countries with the most negative image in a globe-spanning survey of attitudes toward 12 major nations. Canada and Japan came out best in the poll, released Tuesday.

The survey for the British Broadcasting Corp.'s World Service asked more than 28,000 people to rate 12 countries — Britain, Canada, China, France, India, Iran, Israel, Japan, North Korea, Russia, the United States and Venezuela — as having a positive or negative influence on the world.

Israel was viewed negatively by 56 percent of respondents and positively by 17 percent; for Iran, the figures were 54 percent and 18 percent. The United States had the third-highest negative ranking, with 51 percent citing it as a bad influence and 30 percent as a good one. Next was North Korea, which was viewed negatively by 48 percent and positively by 19 percent.

LINK

Catharine said...

I haven't read the details but wahoo! Libby's guilty.

But where does that leave Cheney?

No crime No foul? said...

The big story is everybody walks. No charges, no indictments, no convictions, no nothin. Plame never happened? What the fuck?

Anonymous said...

But where does that leave Cheney?

March 6, 2007 10:25 AM

FITZGERALD: 'I DO NOT EXPECT TO FILE ANY FURTHER CHARGES... THE INVESTIGATION IS INACTIVE'
JUROR: WE HAD SYMPATHY FOR LIBBY, HE WAS THE FALL-GUY, WHERE WAS ROVE, WHERE WERE THE OTHERS...? SOME JURORS SAID 'THIS SUCKS, WE WISH WE WEREN'T JUDGING LIBBY'...

toniD said...

Joe Wilson will have a conference call at 2:30 pm EST today.

toniD said...

Howard Dean will be on MSNBC with his comments about the verdict.

Congress already asking the pres not to pardon Libby.

toniD said...

Joe Wilson will be on Countdown tonight.

toniD said...

Melanie Sloan is saying Karl Rove and Cheney are named in Wilson's suit. She is Wilson's lawyer.

The Lawsuit:
Officials sought revenge against Plame and Wilson.

toniD said...

Melanie Sloan will be on Larry King Live tonight.

So Wilson on Countdown and Sloan on Larry King.

Alice said...

* Promising Democracy, Imposing Theocracy: Gender-Based Violence and the US War on Iraq *

Houzan Mahmoud of the Organization of Women's Freedom in Iraq talks about the new report which documents the systematic use of violence committed by Islamist militias against Iraqi women. Methods of violence include widespread honor killings, torture, assassination and rape.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/06/1511216

Catharine said...

man... great posting everyone!

If only my internets weren't so dern slow!

Check you later...

toniD said...

It was cold as hell outside the Prettyman Courthouse when Patrick Fitzgerald was giving his statement and answering questions, and as I was shifting back and forth from one foot to the other I saw the courthouse's Sheldon Snook talking with Dennis Colins, the juror who had formerly worked with Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. I went over and started chatting and got to talk to him by myself for about 7 or 8 minutes before David Schuster came barrelling up to ask him if he wanted to be on Hardball, and then he was deluged. Sheldon eventually pulled him up to the microphones and he took questions for the cameras.

He was a very thoughtful guy who said the jury was very serious and took their responsibility very seriously, and that there were many tears at the end. I told him I ran a blog largely populated by people who were fascinated by the case and wondered if the jury had become likewise involved in mapping out the details (I didn't use the word "Plameologist" but I'm sure they'll hear it soon). He said that this was true and that the first thing they did was fill out 34 or so of the huge "post it" pads (2' x 3') with names, dates and details. Where have I heard that before?

Anyway, I asked him about the juror who was dismissed, if she was happy to be out of there. He said no, they liked her and he thought she was sorry to be gone. He said the other jurors may want to talk to the press at some point but for now they did not want to be identified. He was very impressed with how methodical they were and he used the word "dispassionate" to describe their deliberations. He said they deliberated for a whole week before they reached a verdict on any of the charges.

He eventually got dragged before the cameras and said that there was a lot of compassion on the jury for Libby, that they felt he was the"fallguy," and they wanted to know where Karl Rove was in all of this. He was loathe to answer questions about Dick Cheney beyond the fact that Libby was obviously doing whatever he did at Cheney's behest, and the Cheney notes on the Wilson July 6 article seemed especially damning. He wouldn't say whether testimony by Cheney would have helped Libby or not, and seemed unwilling to discuss anything that they were not tasked with deliberating.

He did say that Hannah's testimony totally screwed Libby, and I got a chuckle out of that. At the same time Hannah was talking about how bad Libby's memory was, he also claimed that Libby had an incredible grasp of detail, and the jury believed he just would not have forgotten so much in the way that the defense was trying to claim. They found Russert to be a credible witness but thought there was enough reasonable doubt in the Cooper false statement charge (he said/he said) for "someone" to assume reasonable doubt. It appears there was only one holdout on Count Three that kept Libby from a 5 count grand slam.

LINK

toniD said...

Think Darth Vader cutting out Luke Skywalker clips with a penknife and then whining about it to his subordinates within the Evil Empire and you get a decent mental image of how much Cheney lost as a result of this trial. And he certainly didn’t gain anything back when Libby’s attorneys chose not to call Cheney to the witness stand after all their pre-trial preaching about how the Vice President would testify for his friend and former subordinate. Either the stench of Libby’s pending defeat was too much for Cheney, in which case it appears as though he abandoned his friend, or the stench of Cheney’s involvement in this tawdry matter was too much for Libby’s lawyers, in which case it appears that his friend abandoned him. Either way, it’s a terrible denouement for the man labeled the most important vice president in history.

LINK

toniD said...

UPDATE IV: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) calls on President Bush to pledge not to pardon Libby:

I welcome the jury’s verdict. It’s about time someone in the Bush Administration has been held accountable for the campaign to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics. Lewis Libby has been convicted of perjury, but his trial revealed deeper truths about Vice President Cheney’s role in this sordid affair. Now President Bush must pledge not to pardon Libby for his criminal conduct.

UPDATE V: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) says the problem is not just Libby.

Today’s guilty verdicts are not solely about the acts of one individual. This trial provided a troubling picture of the inner workings of the Bush Administration. The testimony unmistakably revealed — at the highest levels of the Bush Administration — a callous disregard in handling sensitive national security information and a disposition to smear critics of the war in Iraq.

LINK

Anon...Pelosi is aware. Let's hope she persues it.

Alice said...

IAEA: Iran Seems To Have Halted

Uranium Enrichment Program
The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said Iran seems to have at least temporarily halted its uranium-enrichment program. Mohamad ElBaradei said the pause could represent an attempt to de-escalate Iran's conflict with the UN Security Council, which is considering new sanctions against Iran.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/06/1511204

Alice said...

Sen. Webb Says Congressional OK Needed Before Iran Attack

Democratic Senator James Webb of Virginia introduced legislation Monday to prohibit the Bush administration from using funds to invade Iran without congressional authorization.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/06/1511204

Alice said...

War Resister Augustín Aguayo Faces Court-Martial

U.S. Army medic and war resister Augustín Aguayo appeared before a court-martial today at an American base in Germany for refusing a second tour of duty in Iraq. He faces up to seven years in prison. Four Arrested in Tacoma At Protest to Stop Military Shipment
In Tacoma Washington, four people have been arrested while protesting the movement of Stryker equipment from Fort Lewis in preparation for shipment to Iraq. Eyewitnesses said one of the protesters was shot at close range with some type of non-lethal ammunition. The demonstration was part of an ongoing vigil at the Port of Tacoma organized by the Tacoma Port Militarization Resistance.

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Literature & Revolution TOM STOPPARD’S ’THE COAST OF UTOPIA’

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NATIONAL ID COMING IN 2008

But Grassroots Rebellion Resisting Implementation of NWO ID Plan

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By Mark Anderson

There are signs of rebellion in several state legislatures against the Real ID Act, the federal law that springs from the disputed findings of the 9-11 Commission.

Liberal and conservative groups are gearing up for a fight in the coming months to keep this contentious measure from creating the first-ever national ID card in U.S. history. The Real ID Act is supposed to be implemented in May 2008, creating new national drivers licenses to function as a virtual national ID.

http://americanfreepress.net/html/national_id_coming.html

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Now is the Time