Friday, April 20, 2007

Catching Up

Still not back in the swing of things. I'm on quasi- Hiatus. But wanted to update you all.

1. The new blog will roll out within three weeks, maybe earlier. It will allow for sub blogs or diaries.

2. Seder on Sundays will debut in about a month.

3. I am starting to look real good in the Gonzo is GONZO pool. My favorite moment from the hearings yesterday was watching Lindsey Graham (sam gets up closes the closet door) offer Gonzo an incredibly lame alibi (paraphrasing)..."US Atty's got put on this firing list becasue they were having personality conflicts, isn't that the case?"

4. Abramoff continues to sing and now Renzi is reducing his workload.

While it's not criminal to be Republican, it's clear Republicanism is a gateway activity to crime.

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Sunshine said...

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Spoing!

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janet said...

Happy to hear about the new blog and show, I just wish you were on air to discuss the trash Nagourney wrote today about Edwards in the Times.

blah blah blah said...

here's the link to the times trash:

Adam Nagourney Trashing Edwards

Interesting that the absolutely outrageous call by Mccain to bomb iran is buried in the last paragraph as if theres an equivalence between a haircut and the death and destruction of a soverign nation (i will grant you that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a kook who threatens the world but there ought to be other ways to get rid of him)

Sunshine said...

mornin sam,

i imagine yer sweety has a honeydoo list a mile long for you too. you get those dogwoods replanted yet? you're going to love them as shade trees and they have beautiful blossoms. the wood was used for making handles. it's dense, hard and weathers well if oiled.

ours died a few years ago and i finally had to bring it down this winter. it has beautiful wood when milled up, with nice color and grain.

Jenise said...

morning all.

just got home today. i'm trying to call air america, because they never responded to my email asking to cancel my premium membership. the only phone number i can find is the one for voicemail, and i'm pretty sure they won't call me back overseas to help me cancel.

anybody have any other number?

Anonymous said...

all i know is this lee rayburn guy can't hold a candle to sam.


this is progress?

toniD said...

Good, a new thread!

Sam, we miss you in the AM. So much going on and we can't listen to you :(

Hi Jenise. Welcome home! Both homes....your home and the blog!!

Sunshine said...

"While it's not criminal to be Republican, it's clear Republicanism is a gateway activity to crime."

boy...! that sure insults the republicans starting to wake up and look around for alternatives! dam inaccurate language and conceptual framing there bud. absolutely guarenteed to shut off their reasoning faculties

talk about painting yourself in a corner! why are you alienenating people that way without needing to?

tell ya, the average repub has no idea why they are repubs except that their dad's were.

i'm thinking a home for reformed repubs might be in order, you know, to help them make the transition to reality.

Anonymous said...

Why is Lee Rayburn on instead of Sam? I haven't listened all week and tuned into XM today just out of curiosity and heard Rayburn.

If Air America was gonna let someone broadcast until Lionel starts, why not have it be Sam?

Jenise said...

morning, tonid. thanks for the welcome. nice to be back in my own home(s). maybe now i can even have a conversation here
: )

i can't believe sam won't be on each day. he really is the best thing on radio as far as i'm concerned. the good news is i have lots of shows left to catch up with. i'll be really feeling it next week, i guess.

think i found another number, by the way. i'll call now see what they say.

toniD said...

A new national poll shows “a third of Americans say global warming ranks as the world’s single largest environmental problem, double the number who gave it top ranking last year.” Seven in 10 Americans want federal action on global warming, and about half of those surveyed think the government should do “much more” than it is doing now.

LINK

Sunshine said...

mornin peeps!

Bgurl sets the alarm for six, and goes back to sleep after turning it off.

it does a good job of waking me up though, no way she's going to change so i just shrug and make coffee.

Crank Bait said...

jenise: "anybody have any other number?"
April 20, 2007 9:41 AM
----------------------------------
42. If there is no answer, something is wrong with the universe.

i said...

Listening to the Gonzales testimony...

A lawyer with a bad memory. How often do you see that?

blah blah blah said...

good point jim. on the other hand if you change republican to neocon i would have no problem with the statement.

Anonymous said...

Sam! We miss you! Please come back! Whats up with 9-noon slot?

blah blah blah said...

Konichiwa Jenise.

toniD said...

“A suicide bomber breached Baghdad’s heavy security presence again Thursday, killing a dozen people in a mostly Shiite district a day after more than 230 people died in one of the Iraq war’s deadliest episodes of violence.”

LINK

toniD said...

A lot's been said so far about Attorney General Gonzales's testimony today. I've said plenty myself. The key though was the response from the committee's Republicans. You know that Sen. Coburn (R-OK), an extremely conservative but not necessarily party-regular senator, told Gonzales he should resign. There was more though. Two other Republican senators, I think, basically told Gonzales that they weren't going to tell him to resign but that he should. That's my interpretation of Sens. Specter and Graham's statements, certainly. And you don't have to agree. But I think it's a fair one. And even Sen. Sessions (R-AL), who normally I'd expect to be signing the administration line, was pretty damning.

I think it's fair to say that Gonzales has lost the confidence of at least half the Republican senators on the committee. He's given people too many causes of termination to choose from. You can want him to go for subverting the federal justice system. Or if that's too much for you to handle you can say he should go for running Main Justice like some ungainly combination of a Young Republicans summer camp and Michael Brown's FEMA. And if even that creates too much collateral damage for you to deal with you can just say he should go for lying about everything that happened.

Plenty of reasons to go around.

-- Josh Marshall

Sunshine said...

if you change republican to neocon i would have no problem with the statement.""

yup, still not exactly right but a lot closer.

we're beginers at "framing", we still have a long way to go to understand the root causes here generally, or the effective ways to talk about them.

lots of exceptions to that last statement of mine here on the blog though.

welcome back j! say hey to siggie other for me.

toniD said...

The big news today is....

Alec Baldwin Loses It
by BooMan
Fri Apr 20th, 2007 at 06:15:54 AM EST

I don't think we do enough celebrity blogging around here. Alec Baldwin called his eleven year-old daughter a 'thoughtless little pig'? Wow!! That's not very nice.

An enraged Alec Baldwin unleashed a volcanic tirade of threats and insults on his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, calling her a "thoughtless little pig," and bashing her mother Kim Basinger -- and TMZ has obtained the whole thing unfiltered and raw. And we've learned, a family law judge was so alarmed after hearing the tape, she has temporarily barred Baldwin from having any contact with his child.
After Ireland failed to answer her father's scheduled morning phone call from New York on April 11, Alec went berserk on her voice mail, saying "Once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone," adding, "you have insulted me for the last time."

Switching his train of thought, Baldwin then exercised his incredible parenting skills and took a shot at his ex-wife, declaring, "I don't give a damn that you're 12-years-old or 11-years-old, or a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do." The irate Baldwin went on to say, "You've made me feel like s**t" and threatened to "straighten your ass out."

Now that is what I call an ugly divorce. What the hell is wrong with Baldwin? No wonder his daughter screens her calls. Sounds like time for a little rehab.

LINK

It's on all the MSM and I am sure that Limbaugh and the rest will make a point of this outburst, which I find repulsive, because he is a liberal. The skuttle is that Kim Basinger, his ex, leaked this.

Jenise said...

"42. If there is no answer, something is wrong with the universe."

42's a good-looking number, crank. i always go with 14 or 14,000 or 14 million depending on the context.

i like the blog with individual diaries idea. looking forward to seeing what it looks like.

blah3, konichiwa and oyasumi. i keep blog-and-running, but hopefully soon i'll be able to sit on the porch and chat, as it were. did a lot of that over the last month - at sidewalk tables over coffee. hope you are well...?

Jenise said...

will do, sunshine. and my best to bgurl. i was expecting to see my dogwood blooming when i got back, but not yet. the cherry blossoms are on their last legs, though (which i find the prettiest time)

ways of discussing certain topics seemed to be a running thread on this trip. thoroughly exhausting i have to say.

marcmaronrules said...

Supreme Court To Put Another Dick In White House

Washington, D.C. - At the behest of Antonin Scalia, Chief Justice John Roberts has scheduled a meeting of the five most conservative justices for early next week in which they will select the next president of the United States.

Sources inside the Supreme Court have told Assimilated Press that the decision will surprise the public as none of the currently announced candidates are held in high esteem by the justices. Rudy Giuliani is seen as not being sufficiently anti-choice although Clarence Thomas did say that the former mayor of New York is better looking than Ann Coulter when dressed in drag and that he wouldn't toss him out of bed on a lonely night. For his part, John McCain is considered by the justices to be a politician without any core principles who couldn't even sell manure to barn full of hungry flies. And, it is a strongly held view that Mitt Romney simply can't be trusted because he doesn't believe in the same Jesus as the five most conservative members of the court.

Of course, all of the Democratic candidates are out of the question as the majority of the court has already made it clear in their Bush versus Gore decision that America is a Republican nation that relies on the literal interpretation of biblical law for guidance. As Justice Antonin Scalia is found of saying, "When I speak of the concept of Original Intent, I do not refer to the original intent of the Founding Fathers but rather the original intent of God as written in the Bible and interpreted by us five holy men in robes."

So, don't be shocked, when early next week, Justices Roberts, Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Kennedy select their favorite Republican, Dick Cheney, as the next President of the United States. In following recent precedent, Cheney will take the oath of office after the next presidential election but before all of the votes are counted

posted by Virt at 12:29 AM

3 Comments:
HaroldX said...
You'd think that Scalia and the rest of his collaborators would be embarrassed by Bush but these people have no shame.

11:33 AM
pinko said...
Entertainment News, April 23, 2007

Diana Ross, Mary Wilson and the various members of The Supremes have sued John Roberts, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas for declaring Dick Cheney President of the United States. "They said that the "Supremes" have decided this. Well, there is only one The Supremes, and we're it and they're not", Ms. Wilson's explained.

Cindy Birdsong, a former member of The Supremes added, "The people don't love Dick Cheney. And, you know, you can't hurry love. If he wants to be president he'll just have to wait. Until the votes are counted."

Otis Williams, of The Temptations, agreed with the suit against the judges. "They gotta reach out. Cheney says he's gonna make me love him, but nobody's gonna make me do anything. If he wants to be president he can't be too proud to beg. Let him win in a fair election."

Asked if he thought there was a strong likelihood of a fair election in 2008, Mr. Williams said, "No. It's just my imagination, running away with me."

1:40 PM
Anonymous said...
OK, so you got wind of the Supreme Court meeting and what it's about. Big Deal!

Yes, they will meet to choose the next President. Yes, they will choose Fred Thompson.

No, your vote doesn;t matter. We dont; care what you think or want. We run this country, not you. Since we're the ones with all the money and power, that's the way things are going to stay in America.

You are not "free." We run your life. Either accept it or leave.
Assimilated press.

toniD said...

Another thing they are discussing on the MSM is the media package the shooter at V-Tech sent NBC and should they have aired it.

What do you think?

Jenise said...

tonid, i've only seen bits and pieces about the campus shootings and don't know what he sent to NBC. did they air it? is that the video that's on the internet now?

so, are you feeling better now that spring is closer?

jet-lagged and dirty. need a bath and bed. i'll look for your answer in the morning.

john the boptist said...

I wonder if anybody's listening to Air America right now?

I'm not! I used to be at this hour but I am listening to John Coltrane this morning. I have said so long, farewell to AAR.

I wonder if there are other people like me?

toniD said...

Okay Jenise. Sleep Well!

NBC Showed videos and photos that the shooter made. He sounds insane.
I guess they are all over the internet now.

The families of some of the kids are saying that those videos should not be shown, to honor the kids that died instead of giving time to the shooter. The Korean-Americans are shamed and scared that ther will be a backlash, just as the Arab-Americans were after 9/11. Doesn't say much about our society here in the US. But racism does play a part and those voices seem to be heard above all others.

Feeling better as long as it doesn't rain or the humidity isn't high. Thanks for asking. My knee, though, is really painful all the time. Trying to find insurance that doctors will accept. I have medicare but I need medigap and I don't qualify for that til I am 65.

What they are offering for disability isn't accepted by many doctors. It's a real pain. And I would have to quit my job in order to get medicaid and there are some doctors that won't accept medicaid.

toniD said...

john the boptist said...
I wonder if anybody's listening to Air America right now?

I think there are many that are trying to find alternate radio show. I am not listening to AAR.

Try Democracy Now Radio with Amy Goodman:

http://www.democracynow.org/

Anonymous said...

i love Amy Goodman but not as much as sam

toniD said...

Seems like the stock market is doing well. It went over 12,900 today.

Anonymous said...

Sam,

Nice to hear from you, miss hearing you on the airwaves. It has allowed me to catch up on Ring of Fire and Laura Flanders though. Wish you were back!!

LiberalOasis said...

I concede you're looking good in the Gonzo pool Sam, but I still stick with my prediction of next year. Dubya doesn't care about the politics, and Gonzo knows where too many bodies are buried to force him out under fire.

Where I would be wrong, I think, is if the pressure from Republicans prompts Gonzo to jump on his own.

toniD said...

I was trying to listen to Stephanie Miller but I just cannot get into her show.

Sam spoiled me for other shows.

i said...

Today actually is 4/20.

Bravo, Lee Rayburn. :)

toniD said...

Two US lawmakers seek to protect abortion rights
Published: Thursday April 19, 2007



Two US lawmakers introduced legislation Thursday aimed at codifying a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy, one day after the Supreme Court banned a controversial late-term abortion procedure.

The proposed law would codify abortion rights for the first time, said Democratic Representative Jerrold Nadler, who joined the effort launched by Senator Barbara Boxer.

The legislation "would bar government -- at any level -- from interfering with a woman's fundamental right to choose to bear a child, or to terminate a pregnancy," Nadler said.

"We can no longer rely on the Supreme Court to protect a woman's constitutional right to choose" he said.

"This Supreme Court may have gone out of the business of protecting women's rights; it is time that Congress stand up to the challenge."

A divided Supreme Court voted 5-4 Wednesday to uphold a 2003 law passed by Congress banning what critics call "partial birth abortion."

The bellwether ruling was a major victory for conservative forces in the United States, which have battled for decades to reverse the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision establishing a woman's legal right to terminate a pregnancy.

It is the first time the high court has upheld a ban of a specific abortion procedure since Roe v. Wade.

The fate of the legislation offered Thursday is unclear as Democratic leaders, who control Congress since January, did not promise a debate on the divisive issue.

LINK

i said...

Loss of the ability to count in your head...

So if you have 5 plants in 1 gallon pots, how much soil do you need?

Darn, I'd just better use my calculator.

On intelligence and marijuana...


Marijuana might cause new cell growth in the brain

22:00 13 October 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Kurt Kleiner

Sunshine said...

speaking of 11 yr olds, yesterday one of the hood kids that age told me about getting raped. Me and Bgurl trying to figure out how to help.

family dysfunctional, kid afraid this will end up in serious violence if the truth comes out.

kid definitely does'nt want the cops in on it for several good reasons linked to the family situation. Mom has drug probs, her live in boyfriend drinks and has anger management probs. both actually likeable good people but living on the edge.

word got out in school, kid lied to the principal about what happened told em it was a minor incident, so that's a closed door or the kid thinks so at any rate.

kid has no religion so that route is out.

the kid is reaching out so that's to the good, tough and resilient nature to this one. i can counsel as a friend but anything else opens up a can of worms.

i don't think the kid is lying. the person that did the rape is blackmailing the kid to keep the kid quiet, dumping a guilt trip on the kid.

kids best friend is currently in a foster home, is out and about at 4 AM. another friend is 13 and pregnant...

ugly part is that this is fairly common everywhere and is usually hushed up and the kid ends up shouldering the guilt and blame for the rest of their life.

i want to bust the pedophile personally. kids afraid of going to a foster home as a result and rightfully so.

tough situation with no good official options.

Anonymous said...

Thought I'd jump in here and mention that Phyllis Diller's rendition of Satisfaction - yes, that Phyllis Diller, singing the Stones - sounds uncannily like Janeane's imitation of Katherine Harris.

http://www.daveamason.com/april/mp3/phyllis%2Emp3]Satisfaction.

toniD said...

The only thing to remember is what is in the best interest of the child. This is a difficult situation for many children. I've heard good and bad about foster homes.

Maybe other relatives?

marcmaronrules said...

Go to the Police!A Policewomen if you can.She will Thank you later.Doing nothing is unthinkable.

Sunshine said...

yup T,

doubt it but a possibility, grannie a kind soul with a drinking prob, and on the edge herself, kid is afraid this will push her over it.

trying to remember who i know that is a no BS counselor and would be willing to monitor this situation with us. may have to find one out of the blue. ain't going to be easy.

Anonymous said...

john the boptist said...
I wonder if anybody's listening to Air America right now?

I'm not! I used to be at this hour but I am listening to John Coltrane this morning. I have said so long, farewell to AAR.

I wonder if there are other people like me?

I won't listen to AAR in the AM. I'm listening to the Beatles station on itunes.

This whole week has been "off" without Sam, particularly with all that has been going on.

Sunshine said...

Doing nothing is unthinkable."

yup, kid asked me to keep a lid on it though.

trying to work out an option that won't destroy what family the kid has.

somehow the kids folks are going to have to learn about this. will help if i line up some non official counseling ahead of time.

this is'nt the first time this has been dumped in my lap, but it's been a couple of decades since it's happened and all of my resources are out of date.

Anonymous said...

Sam,

Still missing you after all these days :-(

Don't listen to AAR anymore from 9-12. Nice guy but he's NO SAM!

Signed,
A Fan

Anonymous said...

Oh how I miss you - especially today. Casual Friday, Joe Conason. I hate weekday mornings now.

toniD said...

News | Vermont Senate calls for impeachment of Bush, Cheney
By Shay Totten | Vermont Guardian

Posted April 20, 2007

MONTPELIER — The Vermont Senate this morning approved by a 16-9 margin a resolution calling on the U.S. House to launch impeachment proceedings of Pres. George W. Bush and Vice Pres. Dick Cheney.

The move comes just days after nearly 150 people from around Vermont converged on Montpelier to urge lawmakers to pass such a resolution out of the House and Senate. The emotionally-charged, 40-minute meeting left backers hopeful that something could happen this session.

Today’s resolution was introduced by Senate Pres. Pro Tem Peter Shumlin, D-Windham, and Sen. Jeannette White, D-Windham. The process began last night when Senate Majority Leader Dick McCormick, D-Windsor, introduced a resolution. However, his resolution did not include Cheney. The resolution by Shumlin and White did include Cheney.

Three Democrats — Sen. Dick Sears, D-Bennington, Sen. Dick Mazza, D-Chittenden/Grand Isle, and Sen. Bill Carris, D-Rutland — joined six Republicans in voting against the resolution. One Republican — Sen. George Coppenrath, R-Caledonia, was absent at the time of the vote.

Rep. Dave Zuckerman, P-Burlington, will spend today and Tuesday collecting signatures from House members to introduce an identical resolution in the chamber.

“We will take the same language the Senate passed today, collect signatures today and Tuesday, and turn it in Tuesday afternoon, which gives people around the state time to call their representatives and ask them to sign it; we would then have it on the calendar for Wednesday and the speaker will either let it be voted on or have it sent to committee,” said Zuckerman. “In respect to the senate action, many of us are quite pleased they took the vote, but it’s clear that it only happened because citizens got involved.”

Impeachment backers were thrilled with the move, and now turn their attention to the House, where an impeachment resolution has been sitting in the House Judiciary Committee for weeks.

LINK

Cat Chew said...

The Plot Against Medicare
Paul Krugman

LTR has a selection of streaming links
on the (what else?) left side of the blog.

marcmaronrules said...

Sunshine:Dumb ?,but isn't there a rape hotline?Something like that.Or free clinic.I agree,tough situation your in.Hopefully maybe someone here on this blog will come up with better ideas than I.

Anonymous said...

Nice post.

On another topic, the new morning guy is pretty boring/lame.

I don't get it. If they *knew* they were going to replace you, at least they should have picked somebody interesting. This whole thing smells.

I agree with other posters that this whole week felt wierd without Sam's voice. I took a walk on the wild side and listened to the Alex Jones show for 3 or 4 days, just to see what the paranoid-wacko-sect of the right wing was talking about this week.

Aside from the bizarre rantings about how the Va-Tech shootings were a government black-op, it was refreshing to hear somebody on the air expressing their views with passion. I found myself downright laughing if I pictured the DJ wearing a tinfoil hat when talking into the mike. So, it was actually kinda fun.

It was certainly more entertaining than the AAR morning guy. And... that is a depressing thought.

Now, I don't know if I can stand any more than a week of Alex Jones, but it shows that AAR has no idea how to entertain an audience.

GBC said...

Hello everyone. :)

Thanks for the update, Sam!

Cat Chew said...

E. coli conservatism is live and in concert at a news conference over tainted pet food.
Stonewalling At The FDA

Excerpt:
The obvious question came. We already know that Natural Brands is only one of five pet food manufacturers to which the suspect rice protein was shipped. What are the other four companies whose products might be poisoned? "Right now we're in the middle of that investigation so we're not releasing the names." Why not? Because "we don't know what if any products have been made" using poisoned ingredients.

A follow-up: "Shouldn't consumers have that information now so we can use it in our decision-making processes?"

Good question, for which the answer was: "We're not aware of all the products that have been made." Captain Elder contributed: "We don't have complete information.... We're not going to share information that is speculative, that is preliminary."

But it wasn't speculative. It wasn't preliminary. They know who these companies are. But they were protecting them, instead of the public, on the off chance that they didn't happen to put the poisons they'd taken deliver of in their product.

"I know this has sort of been asked," another reporter pleaded, but why can't the FDA tell people which four companies had taken delivery of poisoned pet food ingredients before Fido finds out the hard way?

More here

Cat Chew said...

AFL-CIO Goes After 6 Verizon Directors
Campaign Tests Shareholder Rights

NEW YORK, April 19 -- The AFL-CIO has launched a campaign to unseat six members of Verizon Communications' compensation committee, saying they rewarded chief executive Ivan G. Seidenberg with generous pay even as the company's stock languished.

The push to organize a "no" vote at Verizon's annual meeting May 3 is among the first efforts by activist shareholders to unseat board members this year, and corporate governance experts say it is a test case for how much influence shareholders could wield in determining the composition of boards of directors at public companies.

More here

Sunshine said...

eya marcmaronrules,

yup, all good resources, have to find someone local preferrably.

waiting for my nurse buddy to wake up, we were talking about a similiar situation a few years ago.

need to find the right person to assist at the start of the process.

Cat Chew said...

Bernie Sanders (part of the socialist majority in this country) on Hartmann now.

marcmaronrules said...

Sunshine:I'm sure you'll do your best.Good luck.

blah blah blah said...

well cat chew, looks like these neocons like their profits more than our pets.

be afraid, be very afraid...

Sunshine said...

marcmaronrules,

tanks, "do no harm"

easier said than done.

toniD said...

Stewart channels Cheney: 'You gotta piss lightning and crap thunder, Alberto!' David Edwards and Mike Sheehan
Published: Friday April 20, 2007

Jon Stewart channels Vice President Cheney in advising embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

"It was clear that before Alberto Gonzales would face his Senate inquisitors, he was gonna have to buckle down," says Stewart on The Daily Show. "And so he retired to his Department of Justice chambers for several weeks, up to 5 hours a day studying documents, boning up on how humans express sincerity facially."

Video clips of fictional boxer Rocky Balboa in intense training played in the background as Stewart continued to describe Gonzales' preparations for his testimony: "All the time, Cheney following him on a bicycle, shouting, 'You gotta piss lightning and crap thunder, Alberto!'"

Video here

toniD said...

Check out this photo of a sign held up while Gonzales was testifying yesterday:

Photo

toniD said...

Snowe to sponsor Iraq bill. More cracks in the conservative movement. “In another sign of Republican unease with the president’s Iraq policies, a third GOP senator expressed support Thursday for pulling U.S. forces out of Iraq under certain conditions. Sen. Olympia J. Snowe announced she would sponsor a bill to require American commanders to plan a withdrawal within 120 days of the bill’s enactment, unless the Iraqi government meets a series of benchmarks."

LINK

Cat Chew said...

looks like these neocons like their profits more than our pets

Our national motto
"Greed is good"
I don't know why it isn't on our currency.
After all, as the trolls keep reminding us,
it is what makes us "better" than the commies.
Phffft!

"do no harm"
easier said than done.


Oh, yes... and good luck, Jim.

Check out this photo of a sign held up while Gonzales was testifying yesterday

lol!

toniD said...

McCain Demanded Kerry Apologize For Botched Joke, Now Tells Critics To ‘Get A Life’
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) responds to criticism of his “bomb, bomb Iran” song by hiding behind veterans and then blowing the matter off:

The Arizona Republican was asked for his reaction to any negative response to the joke when he arrived in Las Vegas for a fundraiser Thursday night.

“Please, I was talking to some of my old veterans friends,” he told reporters. “My response is, Lighten up and get a life.”

When reporters asked if the joke was insensitive, McCain said: “Insensitive to what? The Iranians?”

McCain’s reaction represents yet another flip-flop. When Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) botched a joke about military service last fall, McCain was among Kerry’s first and most vocal critics. McCain repeatedly said that even if Kerry was joking, he should still apologize.

Here’s McCain on ABC’s Good Morning America on 11/1/06:

McCAIN: Well, I’ve read and watched the statement over and over and I’m not sure how you could construe it that way, but if that’s the case, an apology is in order and we can move on. I have made a number of mistakes in my life, which I’d not like to chronicle all over again. But I’ve found that if you — if it is just a botched joke, then apologize and move on.

And again on Fox News on 10/31/06:

Well, my reaction is it’s hard for me to understand that [it was a joke]. But I’ll be glad to give Senator Kerry the benefit of the doubt. He should apologize.

McCain’s botched joke is actually probably less of a concern than his botched credibility.

LINK

marcmaronrules said...

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2007/04/wingnut-media-meltdown.html#links Good article.

Sunshine said...

tanks catchoo,

i'll figure out something.

toniD said...

‘The Decider’ speaks. Yesterday at an event in Ohio, President Bush, aka “The Decider,” explained to the audience, “My job is a job to make decisions. I’m a decision — if the job description were, what do you do — it’s decision-maker. And I make a lot of big ones, and I make a lot of little ones.” Watch it:


To illustrate the decision-making pressures of his job, Bush said he had to make his “first decision” right before he got sworn in. Bush: “And the phone rang, and the head usher at the White House said, ‘President-elect Bush.’ I said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘What color rug do you want in the Oval Office?’”

Watch it

blah blah blah said...

i don't know toniD, it just doesn't make sense why these f**kers get a free ride no matter what they do or what they say.

don't know about the rest of you, but what with sam gone (but not forgotten), it just seems like we're adrift. the day after gonzos roasting, you would think something should be happening, but it aint. kucinich's impeachment proceedings seems to have evaporated. but the worst is the dems seem to be impotent. all the words reid, pelosi, and boxer say seem to fall on deaf ears or get boxed up in procedureal issues and nothing moves forward.

Sunshine said...

well, blah3

theres quite a few compromised dems in the Mil/Ind/big med/ big insurance pockets.

support the gooduns and vote out the bad ones. get in touch with the activist peeps around you and keep on the assholes case.

and best of all expose them to derision whenever possible.

satire and humor are incredibly effective tools.

Sunshine said...

gotta go,

love ya all!

Cat Chew said...

Later, Sunshine.
Best wishes for your young friend, and good on you for not backing away from a difficult situation.

toniD said...

blah blah blah said...
i don't know toniD, it just doesn't make sense why these f**kers get a free ride no matter what they do or what they say.

don't know about the rest of you, but what with sam gone (but not forgotten), it just seems like we're adrift. the day after gonzos roasting, you would think something should be happening, but it aint. kucinich's impeachment proceedings seems to have evaporated. but the worst is the dems seem to be impotent. all the words reid, pelosi, and boxer say seem to fall on deaf ears or get boxed up in procedureal issues and nothing moves forward.

April 20, 2007 12:54 PM


Impeachment articles for Cheney to be presented next week

toniD said...

Just a word of warning. In this next election in 08, you are going to see many Dems run for office. Make sure, in your area, that you do a background check on all of them.

There will be many repubs changing party to get into office. They will be labeled Dem but will vote with the repubs. Make sure you aren't voting in Bluedog Dems or mascaraders.

These people will infiltrate to control.

for the ladies said...

The new solar powered

Electric Hot Dog

(now comes in Olive)

toniD said...

GOP Gonzales Resignation Roll Call
By Will Thomas - April 20, 2007, 12:19 PM
It's time for an update.

Since our last rundown of Republicans who want Gonzales gone, a number of others have made outright calls for his resignation. Still more have stopped just short, though they've made it clear that they hope Gonzales will do everyone a favor and resign.

Gonzales' sole enthusiastic supporters, by our count, are Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and the White House.

The list:

Sen. John Sununu (R-NH)- "The president should fire the attorney general and replace him as soon as possible with someone who can provide strong, aggressive leadership."

Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR)- "For the Justice Department to be effective before the U.S. Senate, it would be helpful."

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK): "I believe you ought to suffer the consequences that these others have suffered. I believe the best way for us to put this behind us is your resignation."

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)- "There are some problems that he just hasn't handled well, and it might just be best if he came to a conclusion that the department is better served if he's not there.'"

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)- "Sometimes, it just came down to these were not the right people at the right time. If I applied that standard to you, what would you say?"

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA)- "For you to have said this was an ‘overblown personnel matter,’ I think that can't be erased. And the clouds over a lot of the professionals can't be erased and the worry by those who haven’t been subjected to those clouds can't be erased. Now, I’m not going call for you resignation; I'm not going to make a recommendation on that. I think there are two people that have to decide that question. You have to decide it in the first instance. If you decide to stay on, it’s up to the President to decide."

The House

Rep. Vern Elhers (R-MI)- "Since he's such a close, personal friend, he's hurt the President by what he's doing, he should have the politeness to offer his resignation."

Rep. Paul Gillmor (R-OH)- 'Given the totality of the circumstances, I think it would be better for the President and the Department if the Attorney General were to step down."

Rep. Dana Rohrbacher (R-CA)- "Even for Republicans this is a warning sign … saying there needs to be a change."

Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE)- "Frankly, until these statements came out that contradicted his first statement, I was backing him, saying that he shouldn't resign. Now I think that he should."

Prominent Conservatives

The National Review Editorial Board- "Alberto Gonzales should resign. The Justice Department needs a fresh start."

Mark Corallo, Justice Department spokesman (2002-2005)- "Alberto Gonzales' loyalty to George Bush has got to trump George Bush's loyalty to Alberto Gonzales."

Additionally, prior to Gonzales’ testimony, a group of conservatives with ties to the White House wrote President Bush to express their displeasure with the Attorney General. They finished the letter saying:

"Attorney General Gonzales has proven an unsuitable steward of the law and should resign for the good of the country... The President should accept the resignation."

Included as signatories were: Bruce Fein, a former senior official in the Reagan Justice Department, David Keene, Chariman of the American Conservative Union, John Whitehead, head of the Rutherford Institute, Bob Barr, former Georgia Congressman, and Richard Viguerie, a well-known GOP fundraiser.

LINK

gnocchi said...

GOD I FUCKING MISS SAM!!

It's almost too much to bear to have THAT hearing yesterday and to be forced to only imagine how Sam would be handling it this morning.

The closet door every time Lindsey Graham spoke, the "So Long, Good Bye" song playing under Specter's evisceration of Gonzo. Sammy making every southern Senator sound like Virgil Goode...

FUCK YOU Mark Green. FUCK YOU for taking the best, brightest and funniest politcal commentator off the air. And FUCK YOU for replacing him with such a lame-ass, yellow-line-hugging, misogynist audio trainwreck like Lie-onel.

marcmaronrules said...

tonid said:Just a word of warning....... Good solid advise!

for the ladies said...

The new solar powered

Electric Hot Dog

(now comes in Olive)

April 20, 2007 1:36 PM

?????????????????????????????????????????

Does it come in a left handed model?


Desiree

GBC said...

U.S. forces erect wall between Shiites, Sunnis

Three-mile barrier will divide Baghdad groups torn by sectarian hate

AGHDAD - U.S. soldiers are building a three-mile wall to protect a Sunni Arab enclave surrounded by Shiite neighborhoods in a Baghdad area “trapped in a spiral of sectarian violence and retaliation,” the military said.

When the wall is finished, the minority Sunni community of Azamiyah, located on the eastern side of the Tigris River, will be completely gated, and traffic control points manned by Iraqi soldiers will provide the only means to enter it, the military said.

“Shiites are coming in and hitting Sunnis, and Sunnis are retaliating across the street,” said Capt. Scott McLearn, of the U.S. 407th Brigade Support Battalion, which began the project April 10 and is working “almost nightly until the wall is complete,” the statement said.

LINK

Anonymous said...

Socialist healthcare horror story by Jerome a Paris

marcmaronrules said...

Just got back from doing some research at Electric hotdog.com.Sorry for taking so long,but I had to research it in minuet detail..Couldn't find anything about left or righthanded options.But,I did find some great recipes:)

toniD said...

Abandons 'As Iraqis stand up, we’ll stand down' stance ...
Bush administration has
given up on Iraqi troops
Military planners have abandoned the idea that standing up Iraqi troops will enable American soldiers to start coming home soon and now believe that U.S. troops will have to defeat the insurgents and secure control of troubled provinces.

LINK

Anonymous said...

Just want to add my agreement in missing Sam (the voice, the mind, the wit...) and, today being Friday, am feeling a bit lonely for Joe Conason too.

Anonymous said...

I completely agree... and echo...

"FUCK YOU Mark Green. FUCK YOU for taking the best, brightest and funniest politcal commentator off the air. And FUCK YOU for replacing him with such a lame-ass, yellow-line-hugging, misogynist audio trainwreck like Lie-onel."

ro-ro said...

I completely agree... and echo...

"FUCK YOU Mark Green. FUCK YOU for taking the best, brightest and funniest politcal commentator off the air. And FUCK YOU for replacing him with such a lame-ass, yellow-line-hugging, misogynist audio trainwreck like Lie-onel."

DITTO ..this has been a horrible week.

for the ladies said...

COME CLEAN!!!

New cannabis oil douche

In all flavors

Anonymous said...

What the heck?? I miss my SAM in the morning. Everytime I get used to a new lineup it gets changed. What happened to Sam? And whats even worse is I have to look at Sam Sedars name on my xm screen with some other guys voice!

ro-ro said...

.. followed by ed schultz. ugh.

toniD said...

New post on my blog. This is a shameless plug, but I think You'll enjoy this one.

Gonzales: I cna't recall, I dont remember!

toniD said...

MSNBC to replace Imus with conservative radio host (and regular substitute for Bill O’Reilly and Joe Scarborough) Michael Smerconish.

LINK

toniD said...

Waxman plans hearing to issue subpoenas. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee announced that next Wednesday it will consider issuing four subpoeanas for the following testimony and documents:

– The testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice regarding the fabricated claim that Iraq sought uranium from Niger and other issues;
– The testimony of former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card regarding the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert identity and White House security procedures;
– RNC documents related to possible violations of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act by White House officials; and
– Contacts between the White House and MZM, a federal contractor implicated in bribery charges.

More from the Committee website

LINK

GBC said...

It's Friday ya bastards!

toniD said...

Number Of White House Officials Allowed To Intervene In DoJ Cases Jumps By 10,325 Percent »
During the Clinton administration, there were just four people in the White House — the President, the Vice President, the White House Counsel, and the Deputy White House Counsel — who could participate in discussions with the Justice Department “regarding pending criminal investigations and criminal cases.” There were just three Justice Department officials authorized to talk with the White House. This arrangement was intended restrict political interference in the administration of justice.

Yesterday in his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said that it was important that the Justice Department “be independent from” the White House. But as Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) pointed out, the firewalls that had existed during the Clinton administration have been ripped down. In the Bush administration, the rules have been rewritten so that 417 White House officials and 30 Justice Department officials are eligible to have discussions about criminal cases. Watch it:

When asked to respond, Gonzales simply replied, “I do recall being concerned about that as White House counsel.”

LINK

toniD said...

World Bank board delays decision
on Iraq War architect
The World Bank's board on Friday delayed a final decision on bank chief Paul Wolfowitz's role in a promotion he arranged for his girlfriend and referred some issues to a committee for further investigation.

LINK

toniD said...

Report of person with weapon at Johnson Space Center in Houston. The Bldg has been evacuated. Per CNN

toniD said...

VIDEO EXCLUSIVE: BYU shuts down free speech.

If you're not caught up on the controversy, read these links first:


CHENEY POSTS: #1 #2 #3 #4

(go to link to link to the posts)

Ok, so we're shooting a documentary about all this BYU/Dick Cheney craziness and I went through and edited together a 4 minute piece last night. It shows BYU security shutting down the "free speech zone" and then has BYU President Cecil Samuelson basically telling a protesting student to "go fuck yourself":


CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE VIDEO.

m the a-c said...

Gun nut: "I told you so."

toniD said...

Blog Talk Radio "Heading Left"

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/headingleft

Star Vox said...

------------

Sunshine said...
speaking of 11 yr olds, yesterday one of the hood kids that age told me about getting raped. Me and Bgurl trying to figure out how to help.
April 20, 2007 11:01 AM
_____________________

Sunshine Jim,
Is she safe? Is it likely to happen again if she is in the same environment? Are there other children that might be in danger now? If you need more information or I can help, let me know. You have my e-mail.

------------------


Victim Assistance Canada Listserv -

Link to resources in Canada:

http://www.vaonline.org/vacan.html

The BC Institute Against Family Violence -

BCIFV works to eliminate emotional abuse, psychological abuse, neglect, financial exploitation, destruction of property, injury to pets, physical assault, sexual assault and homicide in relationships of family, trust or dependency.

Link:

http://www.bcifv.org/index.shtml

-------------------
Good resource with additional links. Although it is in the United States, RAINN could provide more information as needed.

The Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network is the nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization. RAINN operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline and carries out programs to prevent sexual assault, help victims and ensure that rapists are brought to justice. (Free. Confidential. 24/7)


What should I do?

-Find a safe environment.

-Know that what happened was not your fault and that now you should do what is best for you.

-Report the attack to police.

-If you know that you will never report, still consider:

Get medical attention. Even with no physical injuries, it is important to determine the risks of STDs and pregnancy.

Links:

http://www.rainn.org/


http://www.rainn.org/what-should-i-do/index.html?PHPSESSID=1f63610f7c63ab3ebd326257fa2e1fbb

shecky said...

To get your Friday off to a proper start.....

A guy walks into a bar with his pet monkey. He orders a drink and while he's drinking, the monkey jumps all around the place. The monkey grabs some olives off the bar and eats them.
Then grabs some sliced limes and eats them. Then jumps onto the pool table, grabs one of the billiard balls, sticks it in his mouth, and to everyone's amazement, somehow swallows it whole.

The bartender screams at the guy "Did you see what your monkey just did?"

The guy says "No, what?"

"He just ate the cue ball off my pool table-whole!" "Yeah, that doesn't surprise me,"replied the guy.

"He eats everything in sight, the little bastard. Sorry. I'll pay for the cue ball and stuff." He finishes his drink, pays his bill, pays for the stuff the monkey ate, then leaves.

Two weeks later he's in the bar again, and has his monkey with him. He orders a drink and the monkey starts running around the bar again. While the man is finishing his drink, the monkey finds a maraschino cherry on the bar. He grabs it, sticks it up his butt, pulls it out, and eats it.

The bartender is disgusted.

"Did you see what your monkey did now?" he asks.

"No, what?" replies the guy.

"Well, he stuck a maraschino cherry up his butt, pulled it out, and ate it!" said the bartender.

"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy.

" He still eats everything in sight,

but ever since he swallowed that cue ball, he measures everything first..."

bridge said...

toniD said...

MSNBC to replace Imus with conservative radio host (and regular substitute for Bill O’Reilly and Joe Scarborough) Michael Smerconish.
--
ZZzzzzzzzzzz .....
Ah yes, if its rightwing, its MSNBC. I'll save my Smer Opinion for later ;-) But Olbermann has his work cut out for himself.

The name Smer doesn't say so but if he is not part of the Irish-Catholic gang, my name isn't ... Guess I have to wait for the DailyHowler to set things straight for me.

Smer was on Real Time v. recently. When Media Matters criticized Smer Bill Maher was so upset he brought it up in his last show believe it or not - defending Smer something fierce. Said something like "we had him on the show last time."

So what!!! Yeah, Bill. Ann Coulter is your fav, too, she was on your last ABC show, the first HBO show and then some. Along with a host of the rightwingiest of the right wingers. All straighttalkers, acc. to Bill Maher. Talking about fake outrage.

Kat said...

Sam, so glad to hear from you. Still miss you.

bridge said...

Bad news re Alec Baldwin
- another one bit the Schnitzel. Liked him in film and otherwise. Heard about his temper but the verdict remained out ...

But Kim Basinger obviously didn't divorce him over nothing. No wonder he turned her into a nervous wreck. Go Kim! Getting involved with a badtempered egomaniac is the worst for any woman.

m the a-c said...

toniD said...

MSNBC to replace Imus with conservative radio host (and regular substitute for Bill O’Reilly and Joe Scarborough) Michael Smerconish.
--
____________________________


I want to go on a shooting rampage.

But seriously... I hope that Sharpton is very proud of himself... fucking moron

cap 'n bly said...

HOT SALTY NUTS

Ready for your can!

bridge said...

Gonzales: I cna't recall, I dont remember!

---
toniD,
I read it. I doubt Bush will fire Gonzales. At least not in the near future.

Great opportunity to show the Reps that he is the decider and they will love it along w. the press ... again.

bridge said...

m the a-c said...

toniD said...

MSNBC to replace Imus with conservative radio host (and regular substitute for Bill O’Reilly and Joe Scarborough) Michael Smerconish.
--

I want to go on a shooting rampage.

----
Please!

Get a grip already.

toniD said...

Working tonight. Have to get ready.

Later

blah blah blah said...

shecky said:

but ever since he swallowed that cue ball, he measures everything first..."

there's nothing like a good monkey joke to get the weekend off to a start.

marcmaronrules said...

tonid:Thanks for All the Links.

Star Vox said...

-------------------
Swap-A-Refugee-of-Your-Choice!

It sounds like an updated slave trade for the New American Century.

Should humans be considered commodities to be bought, sold, and traded between countries today?

Does a person lose his/her human rights when he/she becomes a commodity?

Will the U.S. be able to circumvent international law -- simply because the refugees have been residing in that tropical paradise and world renown resort in Cuba, Concentration Camp Guantánamo Bay?

Are you proud that the United States came up with this nifty updated innovation?

(How about trading the politician of your choice with another country? Would any countries like Dubya or Cheney?

We might even consider a two-for-one special -- considering the quality of the American made political "commodities" in the trade).

_______________________

RIGHTS: "U.S.-Aussie Refugee Swap Comes Under Fire"

Excerpts:

A controversial bilateral deal between Australia and the United States to swap refugees has triggered a storm of protests from human rights activists and legal experts.

By housing refugees on Nauru and at Guantánamo Bay, both Australia and the United States are trying to avoid their legal obligations under the 1951 Refugee Convention, HRW said in a statement released Thursday.

Ratner, whose Centre for Constitutional Rights is challenging the legality of unlawfully detaining terror suspects in Guantánamo Bay, said: "There is no place in a just world for Guantánamos or Naurus -- and certainly no place for trading human beings, as was done in the days of the slave trader."

Link:

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37415

m the a-c said...

bridge said...

Please!

Get a grip already.

April 20, 2007 4:30 PM

It's called "a joke," Eva.

and with humor, the more outrageous, the better

Dur.

bridge said...

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/04/20/the-spin-im-in-meet-the-zimmers/#more-8569

Great video! Great cause!

"My Generation"

marcmaronrules said...
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bridge said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/04/19/hillary-1984-video-blog_n_46325.html

the Wolfowitz video by copy cat Phil deVille

Great cause! Mediocre video!

m the a-c said...

speaking of "the more outrageous the better"

...nappy-headed hos

I know, I know.. I'm fired.

marcmaronrules said...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/20/us-attorneys-not-alone/ Very Interesting-Justice employees are speaking out against Bush Admin.Concerned about widespread politicization at The Justice Department!

bridge said...

Haertbreak all around. The shooter's family is living a nightmare.

---
""He has made the world weep. We are living a nightmare," said a statement issued by Cho's sister, Sun-Kyung Cho, on the family's behalf."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070420/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting&printer=1;_ylt=AoVmvljX9z9_ldbsWjyd9fdH2ocA

Anonymous said...

I can't believe how bad it's been since Sam's not on the air...really can't stand it --- it's depressing and it hurts a whole lot... no exaggeration... listened for about 10min to the substitute, thinking he might, at least, say something about Sam, maybe an update, an acknowledgement---or something??---but this doe-doe didn't even have sense enough to mention Sam...I realize he's nowhere near a match for Sam but WOW he's going to totally ignore the obvious question on hand... I too have turned AAR off til Laura Flanders and Mike Papantonio/Bobby Kennedy are on the air on weekends...but this is not enough ...WE WANT SAM BACK---NOWWWWWW!!!!!

father peppers said...

Give us your sons for the

Holy Blow!

hi fly said...

Liquid meat is the future!

two beers for two queers! said...

Don't forget to boogie!

marcmaronrules said...

Loooser!

allie said...

Sam:
"1. The new blog will roll out within three weeks, maybe earlier. It will allow for sub blogs or diaries."

--
Well, that will be the day but it can't be soon enough.
This blog needs attention ... you can't find the flowers with all these weeds hanging on.

marcmaronrules said...

allie:I beg your Pardon?:)

marcmaronrules said...

Check it out http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/2007/04/justice-department-seeks-pardon-from.html

7 steps to heaven said...

Too many fools...

too little cool!!!

marcmaronrules said...

>http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/2007/04/chris-matthews-no-longer-swooning-over.html b>

Bloppo said...

I realized what I don't like about Rayburn. He's well-informed, and well spoken, but he laughs at his own jokes.

I hate when people laugh at their own jokes.

o my god said...

i'm watching obermann and he just covered president custer in tipp city.

i'll have what the man on the floor is having...

Crank Bait said...

Bloppo said...I hate when people laugh at their own jokes.
April 20, 2007 8:46 PM
-----
Crank Bait said...I wonder if the Lesbians For Dick fan club has more than one member?
(Get it? One member? I kill myself.)
April 17, 2007 8:36 PM
-----------------------------------
Guilty.

Crank Bait said...

Romney says more information needed about Gonzales
WHO-TV - 3 hours ago
CORALVILLE, Iowa Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney stopped short today (Friday) of calling for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' resignation, saying not enough details are known about the firing of eight US attorneys...
---------------------------------
Gee. I don't recall what more information is needed.

Stonewalling works.

Mitt: "We need more information!"
Alberto: "About what?"
Mitt: "The stuff."
Alberto: "What stuff?"

mmrules said...

I ho that!

Crank Bait said...

mmrules said...I ho that!
April 20, 2007 9:03 PM
-------------------------------
I almost (but not quite) hate to admit this.
Your joke was pretty funny at the onset.
Your repetition has created an entirely other joke which is also pretty funny.
Why do I find the repetition funny? I find it funny for a number of reasons.
Take my wife...

mmrules said...

cb:Just wanted to say Howdy!

mmrules said...

http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/2007/04/justice-department-seeks-pardon-from.html

Cat Chew said...

Bloppo said...I hate when people laugh at their own jokes.
April 20, 2007 8:46 PM
-----
Crank Bait said...I wonder if the Lesbians For Dick fan club has more than one member?
(Get it? One member? I kill myself.)
April 17, 2007 8:36 PM
----------------------------------
Guilty.
************************
That's alright.
I can't hear you.
I have a banana in my ear.

mmrules said...

Fats Lowbrow er, Rush Limbaugh was among the first to play the Soros card. And for equal measure, he threw out the name of Hillary Clinton, almost as if sending a subconscious message to the nimble-minded Manchurian Candidates who listen to his show. According to Drugbo the Hut, MMfA is a "Stalinist" organization (doesn't Godwin's Law cover that tired commie cliche as an instant argument killer?) and part of the "Clinton machine agenda." He claimed that Imus was taken down by MMfA because he was critical of Hillary Clinton. "This is an election year. Clinton Inc., you get on their case, they're going to take you out." Limbaugh continued, "When I say the Clinton team, I include Media Matters for America, this supposed tax-exempt media watchdog group," adding, falsely, "They are George Soros-funded. This is clearly part of the 'Democrat' (sic) Party machine." Oxymoron had absolutely no shame in his lashing, claiming that Democrats are anti-Semitic, racist, totalitarian and are engaged in smear tactics.

Oh, and he even had the balls to use phrases like 'draft dodger' and "philanderer," evidentially with no sense of personal irony whatsoever. Well, at least he didn't say "drug addict." Irony is always in abundant supply on Limbaugh's show. He claims to take the high road, and that he is "not demeaning people on this program in any way." Yeah, right.
LTR

CeeCee said...

Sunshine said...
word got out in school, kid lied to the principal about what happened told em it was a minor incident, so that's a closed door or the kid thinks so at any rate.
April 20, 2007 11:01 AM

Not so closed; the principal is required by law to report it whether the child denies it or not.

TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 132 > SUBCHAPTER IV > § 13031

§ 13031. Child abuse reporting

(a) In general
A person who, while engaged in a professional capacity or activity described in subsection (b) of this section on Federal land or in a federally operated (or contracted) facility, learns of facts that give reason to suspect that a child has suffered an incident of child abuse, shall as soon as possible make a report of the suspected abuse to the agency designated under subsection (d) of this section.
(b) Covered professionals
Persons engaged in the following professions and activities are subject to the requirements of subsection (a) of this section:
(1) Physicians, dentists, medical residents or interns, hospital personnel and administrators, nurses, health care practitioners, chiropractors, osteopaths, pharmacists, optometrists, podiatrists, emergency medical technicians, ambulance drivers, undertakers, coroners, medical examiners, alcohol or drug treatment personnel, and persons performing a healing role or practicing the healing arts.
(2) Psychologists, psychiatrists, and mental health professionals.
(3) Social workers, licensed or unlicensed marriage, family, and individual counselors.
(4) Teachers, teacher’s aides or assistants, school counselors and guidance personnel, school officials, and school administrators.
(5) Child care workers and administrators.
(6) Law enforcement personnel, probation officers, criminal prosecutors, and juvenile rehabilitation or detention facility employees.
(7) Foster parents.
(8) Commercial film and photo processors.
(c) Definitions
For the purposes of this section—
(1) the term “child abuse” means the physical or mental injury, sexual abuse
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00013031----000-.html

Cat Chew said...

Sam Seder and Stephen Sherrill
Host: Cody's Books
Location: San Francisco, CA
Date: Jun 14, 2006
Program Description: Sam Seder and Stephen Sherrill carry on with F.U.B.A.R.* America's Right Wing Nightmare.
Video and fuller description here

Crank Bait said...

Cat Chew: "I can't hear you."
Monkey-in-a-bar: "Don't forget to chew."

WaitingForCicero said...

This is a repost from last thread.

My apologies for the redundancy, but I didn't realize I'd left this at the end of a 600+ post thread.

So...

---

Because I miss the show

Finding Out True Love Is Blind, Louis XIV

Hot Topic, Le Tigre

Going Underground, The Jam

Jerk It Out, Caesars

Peaches, The Stranglers

Runnin', Pharcyde

Take The Skinheads Bowling (Live), Camper Van Beethoven

Message Of Love, The Pretenders

Swamp Thing, The Chameleons

Uncertain Smile, The The

Blister In The Sun, Violent Femmes

Punk Rock Girl, Dead Milkmen

Running Up That Hill, Kate Bush

Maps, Yeah Yeah Yeahs

Girl U Want, Devo

Mirror In The Bathroom, The English Beat

Sabotage, The Beastie Boys

Ana Ng, They Might Be Giants

American Idiot, Green Day

Pressure Drop, The Clash (poor quality, sounds like when SEDER plays it)

All You Fascists, Billy Bragg and Wilco

---

We now return you to your previously scheduled blogging.

ruben said...

How could I be...

be such a fool?

Cat Chew said...

The call back is a terrible thing to waste.

mmrules said...

Cb:One day Oxy-HO-don Boy will choke on his OxyHOdon and Hate.He will have to retire to Jeff Gannon's house.And on that day the very rare Quad-Ho will be accomplished!To the amasement of everyone.......Please don't forget to tip your waitress.I'll be here all week!:)

Clinton said...

What was the tune that they played a lot coming back from breaks that started off with just a wiry guitar phrase with a lot of delay? They often used it as a bed to play audio files of someone talking over...

I know that's not a great description, but since I can't hum it for you...

Thanks for that list of tunes, by the way...I do college radio and you just gave me a playlist!

WaitingForCicero said...

That song is Peaches by The Stranglers.

Enjoy!

WaitingForCicero said...

Scratch that, that's not it. Peacehs is the one that starts out with the bass and organ groove.

Swamp Thing, by The Chameleons, is the one that starts with the guitar lick (I think) you're talking about.

23 % alc said...

Friday night semen!

mmrules said...

wfc:Thanks for the Tunes again.

WaitingForCicero said...

No worries.

bbl

Cat Chew said...

WaitingForCicero said...
This is a repost from last thread.
My apologies for the redundancy...


That was lovely.
Some things bear repeating.

Crank Bait said...

---Regarding Rush Limbaugh---

I read about Limbaugh in Time magazine while I was in the Caribbean. Subsequent to his new-found fame (kinda like Newt Gingrich's manufactured fame after gracing Time's cover), Limbaugh had a short-lived cable TV show.

Coincidentally, cable TV access reached my end of the island at the same time. I was surfing the channels as most people do when they acquire a bunch after having a few when I found Limbaugh pontificating. I tried to sit through Limbaugh's TV program more than once but found it too sophomoric to hold my interest. Simply said, whomever was supporting his meteoric rise in popularity was a person with whom I wouldn't want to share an elevator, however brief the trip might be.

Years later (two years ago?), I decided to listen to his radio show whilst rehabbing my shop building. I had read Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot and decided that I should find out for myself.

Al Franken is right. Limbaugh is profoundly boring. Never mind the inaccuracies. Never mind the fact that I can listen to the news and predict, to a "T", what Limbaugh will say the following day.

There is much, none of it good, that I could write about his show, but I won't. At least half of his air time is spent talking about himself. That, alone, is enough to make me dive for cover.

I accept that what I am about to write is unfair, but I can't shake it. When I learn that someone is a Limbaugh fan, I tag him or her as a political moron, as a comedy moron, and as another of the suckers that are born every minute.

bridge said...

via Counterpunch
Website of the Day

Gonzo's Monica

http://web.archive.org/web/19991008153443/home.regent.edu/monigoo/

bridge said...

via Counterpunch
Website of the Day

The Best Anti-War Song of the Iraq War

this one may be too HOT to handle for some

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cAChVVVZaM

Anonymous said...

I can't wait to hear Sam's show this weekend. I am not excited about it though. I'm still very pissed that I haven't heard Sam in a week and may have to wait three more. Sam is a rock star. Oh by the way, anybody getting sick of Arlen Specter getting outraged and doing nothing?

Cat Chew said...

Sometime in the 1980s, my Detroit talk radio station (all local hosts, all interesting, all professional, but with varied topics and expertise) introduced Limbaugh into the line-up. It got very sad, very fast after that.
Bloviating, self-centered crapola from remote locations became the flavor of the day. I was temporarily heartened by AAR, but now that's gone too. Eh.

Cat Chew said...

Comment from Mark Green about Sam Seder
This discussion is closed: you can't post new comments.

It's his toy. I can't say I'm surprised at this.

m the a-c said...

I want to open up a discussion here.

Who continues to believe that Imus' firing was justified, especially in light of the fact that MSNBC is going to use a conservative ralk host to replace him?

Please tell me that someone here believes that CBS and MSNBC should have fired him for such a meaningless phrase.

Anonymous said...

SAM!!! I miss you bro! I can no longer listen to AAR between 9-12...I'm out!

Wish you the very BEST!

bridge said...

Video tribute to Kurt Vonnegut

So it Goes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atABhlMLYvU

bridge said...

Go Rest High on That Mountain!

In Memory of Kurt Vonnegut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YepnEOV7vwQ

Crank Bait said...

m the a-c said...
I want to open up a discussion here....Please tell me that someone here believes that CBS and MSNBC should have fired him for such a meaningless phrase.
April 20, 2007 10:57 PM
----------------------------------
Welcome to the pendulum swing.

The Joe Pyne-esque, one shtick, "you're fat and you're ugly, too" game has played out.

Being shockingly mean and insulting is remarkable and tantalizing only so long as it is not available across the dial.

The comment that tips the scale was preordained to be just another comment like all of the other comments before it.

Imus was not the first to go down and will not be the last.

The first geek to bite off a chicken head draws crowds. The one-hundredth geek draws the wrath of PETA.

And so it goes.

CeeCee said...

Cat Chew said...
Comment from Mark Green about Sam Seder
This discussion is closed: you can't post new comments.

It's his toy. I can't say I'm surprised at this.

April 20, 2007 10:57 PM

Wow:\

bridge said...

WaitingForCicero said...

This is a repost from last thread.
--
thanks for reposting all those links, wtc, it brings back the memories :)

night all

m the a-c said...

crank bait said

The comment that tips the scale was preordained to be just another comment like all of the other comments before it.

_____________

So basically you agree with me.

Is anyone willing to pick up the challenge here?

Who believes that his firing was good? Maybe I must tap AAR hosts. I don't know. Only they seem to think it was god awful.

...which is partly why people hate us. We are nauseatingly p.c. sometimes.

m the a-c said...

*it should read "some moderate people who might like us otherwise"

m the a-c said...

by the way, "it" meant the comment

only AAR hosts think that the comment was god awful

m the a-c said...

I'm watching Real Time and checking this blog for comments

When Real Time ends, I'm out. I'll assume that everyone who is reading this blog agrees with me about this issue.

Crank Bait said...

So basically you agree with me.
-------------------------------
Nope. I agree that the ho comment wasn't much different from all of the rest (and not just from Imus).

I don't have a problem with meanness being called out for what it is. If you want to have a no-risk career of hurling insults, then you should do it like Don Rickles does; obviously tongue-in-cheek. (Rickles bores me, for the record, but he is a good counterpoint to genuinely mean celebrities.)

The whole point of having an act that pushes the politeness envelope is to elicit the response "he can't say that on the air, can he?"

I have more troubling causes to support than an out-of-work millionaire. Imus won't starve.

Religious groups attempting to remove books from libraries is the type of issue that I can get excited about. Or arrest and confinement without due process. Or an unwarranted war.

Imus is pretty low on my list.

Cat Chew said...

"When Real Time ends, I'm out. I'll assume that everyone who is reading this blog agrees with me about this issue."

Nah.

mmrules said...

Subject: FW: CLEMSON study-MPG



>
>
> Clemson Study
>
> A 2007 study by Clemson University found that the average American walks
> about 900 miles per year.
>
> Another study by the American Beer Institute found that Americans drink an
> average of 22 gallons of beer a year.
>
> That means, on average, Americans get approximately 41 miles per gallon -
> not bad!

toniD said...

I'm with Cat Chew and Crank!

More important things to worr about than Imus. And the guy that will replace him will drop ratings like a rock.


Evening all!

toniD said...

‘Crisis atmosphere’ grips World Bank. Sources say “there is a crisis atmosphere at World Bank headquarters,” as “displays of rebellion” are coming from “all levels of staff.” IPS reports:

[A]bout 110 country directors, their deputies and programme coordinators sent a message Friday saying they want Wolfowitz out.

At issue is a scandal involving excessive pay he coordinated for his girlfriend and then-Bank staffer Shaha Riza at a time when he was spearheading an anti-corruption campaign at the Bank and in its projects.

The officials, many of them considered senior staff, had met with Wolfowitz Wednesday at the Watergate office complex in Washington DC, where he was asked repeatedly to resign. At least four country directors publicly called upon him to leave his job.

Here's one Bush has no influence to keep in his position

m the a-c said...

toniD said...
I'm with Cat Chew and Crank!

More important things to worr about than Imus.

April 20, 2007 11:56 PM


The guy who is going to replace him will likely be on the air for at least a year... a year of another conservative who has access to a major forum every morning for, I assume, 3 hours... it's a disaster.. because a guy who isn't racist uttered a lame remark and everyone went insane

I'm out.

Cat Chew said...

Good to see you, toniD!
Rational people are in such short supply these days!

toniD said...

Legislating by ambush. The House today passed the Shareholder Vote on Executive Compensation Act, which would, “for the first time, allow shareholders of corporations to at least have a say in the salaries given to executives.” Passage came only after conservatives attempted to use a legislative device called a “motion to recommit” to kill the measure. It’s been a common tactic in the 110th Congress. “The strategy is to institute a divisive change to the bill at the last moment, often unrelated to the original intent of the legislation, hoping that the altered bill can then be defeated on final passage.”

Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, who introduced the bill, spoke out against today’s motion to recommit in his usual biting and entertaining way. Watch it:

Mr. Speaker..does whining come out of my time?

Cat Chew said...

Imus didn't bother me so much because he always seemed an equal opportunity offender. I think that was a big problem, that he wasn't obnoxious in the politically correct, rightwing way.

toniD said...

Evening Cat Chew.

Yep, bigger fish to fry. Imus will be back anyway. I'm almost sure of it. The schmuck guy won't last long when the ratings drop like a rock and all the letters and emails start coming in to MSNBC,

Cat Chew said...

I suspect we don't matter at all. There is an agenda that trancends us regular folk...
[sigh]

toniD said...

In 2004, Bush said we can't win the war on terror
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 4/20/2007 09:38:00 PM ET

All the feigned outrage from Republicans (and Joe Lieberman) over Harry Reid's accurate assessment of Iraq is really beyond annoying. They're such hypocrites. The opposite of losing is winning. Yet, not one of those Republicans (or Joe Lieberman) can say that we're winning the war that Bush started.

And since we're talking hypocrisy, let's not forget that is was George Bush who said in September of 2004 that we can't win the war on terror:
Lauer: You said to me a second ago, one of the things you'll lay out in your vision for the next four years is how to go about winning the war on terror. That phrase strikes me a little bit. Do you really think we can win this war on terror in the next four years?

President Bush: I have never said we can win it in four years.

Lauer: So I’m just saying can we win it? Do you see that?

President Bush: I don’t think you can win it.
Here's a crazy idea for those in the traditional media who just parrot GOP talking points: Do some research. That statement sure gave a lot of aid and comfort to our enemies -- the enemies who actually attacked us on September 11th -- not the enemies we created with Bush's war in Iraq.

And a big shout out to JM for pointing out this particular Bush hypocrisy.

LINK

mmrules said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/gonzales_prosecutors

Cat Chew said...

G'night, sweethearts.

toniD said...

Good Night Cat Chew. Sleep well.

Just a bit more for me and I'm off.

Long day at work tomorrow.

toniD said...

Well one think I am glad about is that Imus' producer, Bernard got the axe today. He's the one that got Imus all riled up to say what he said.

To be honest, I think Imus' wife had a lot to do with Bernard going.

Sunshine said...

eya T,

my nurse bud came thru.

got one of the hospital lady counselors set up for a private sesion.

a freebie too. i offered a polish and a wax for her rig in appreciation.

mmrules said...

CeeCee said...
Sunshine said...
word got out in school, kid lied to the principal about what happened told em it was a minor incident, so that's a closed door or the kid thinks so at any rate.
April 20, 2007 11:01 AM

Not so closed; the principal is required by law to report it whether the child denies it or not.

TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 132 > SUBCHAPTER IV > § 13031

§ 13031. Child abuse reporting

(a) In general
A person who, while engaged in a professional capacity or activity described in subsection (b) of this section on Federal land or in a federally operated (or contracted) facility, learns of facts that give reason to suspect that a child has suffered an incident of child abuse, shall as soon as possible make a report of the suspected abuse to the agency designated under subsection (d) of this section.
(b) Covered professionals
Persons engaged in the following professions and activities are subject to the requirements of subsection (a) of this section:
(1) Physicians, dentists, medical residents or interns, hospital personnel and administrators, nurses, health care practitioners, chiropractors, osteopaths, pharmacists, optometrists, podiatrists, emergency medical technicians, ambulance drivers, undertakers, coroners, medical examiners, alcohol or drug treatment personnel, and persons performing a healing role or practicing the healing arts.
(2) Psychologists, psychiatrists, and mental health professionals.
(3) Social workers, licensed or unlicensed marriage, family, and individual counselors.
(4) Teachers, teacher’s aides or assistants, school counselors and guidance personnel, school officials, and school administrators.
(5) Child care workers and administrators.
(6) Law enforcement personnel, probation officers, criminal prosecutors, and juvenile rehabilitation or detention facility employees.
(7) Foster parents.
(8) Commercial film and photo processors.
(c) Definitions
For the purposes of this section—
(1) the term “child abuse” means the physical or mental injury, sexual abuse
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00013031----000-.html

April 20, 2007 9:29 PM
I case you didn't see this post earlier.

toniD said...

Oh, that's good, Jim!!!

You're a gem for doing that!!

Sunshine said...

that blogtalkradio.com site and the heading left show was superb.

great interview with John Amato of Crooks And Liars, Jane Hamsher of FireDogLake, plus hosts Nate Wilcox and James Boyce.

great research and article page here on the HALL OF FAME page of the Heading Left host page site:

http://www.headingleft.com/heading-left-hall-of-fame/

The Relationships of the Blogosphere:
Political Animal: Kevin Drum
MyDD :: When Blogospheres Collide

Daou’s Triangle Series:
Salon - Daou Report - Part I The Triangle: The Limits of Blog Power
MyDD :: Peter Daou’s Triangle Updated
Salon - Daou Report - Part II-Obama’s Diary & Netroots Disenchantment
Salon - Daou Report - Part III-Bloggers in the Wilderness
Salon - Daou Report - Part IV-Matthews, Moore, Murtha, and the Media

Blog Role in the 2006 Elections:
MyDD :: How the blogs and the internet change campaigning
MyDD :: Progressive Majority Rising
MyDD :: Republicans Are Not Losing Because of “Mistakes”
MyDD :: Declaring Victory, Continuing To Grow
MyDD :: The People-Powered Victory for the Democratic Party
Daily Kos: Memo to Every Democrat

toniD said...

Pentagon issues gag order. CongressDaily reports, “Pentagon lawyers abruptly blocked mid-level active-duty military officers from speaking Thursday during a closed-door House Armed Services Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee briefing about their personal experiences working with Iraqi security forces.” One correspondent tells Laura Rozen: “My guess: the training is not going well, there are some big gaps, and a bunch of horror stories that the Pentagon doesn’t want aired. … That said, this will backfire.”

LINK

Sunshine said...

good friends eh?

makes the difference.

just turning another generation on to it.

good kid, will pass it on i'm sure.

Sunshine said...

Tanks mmrules for passing that along.

US law though. i'm up in canuckistan.

don't think a report went in. imagine the kids folks would be coming unglued before this.

worst case the kid could be in a fantasy world. but even a game like that would indicate a need for some serious attention.

looks like a full med exam may not be a prob either. hope there is'nt a med problem in addition.

they're perfectly aware of the 'fine points'. 'do no harm'

mmrules said...

Star Vox said...
------------

Sunshine said...
speaking of 11 yr olds, yesterday one of the hood kids that age told me about getting raped. Me and Bgurl trying to figure out how to help.
April 20, 2007 11:01 AM
_____________________

Sunshine Jim,
Is she safe? Is it likely to happen again if she is in the same environment? Are there other children that might be in danger now? If you need more information or I can help, let me know. You have my e-mail.

------------------


Victim Assistance Canada Listserv -

Link to resources in Canada:

http://www.vaonline.org/vacan.html

The BC Institute Against Family Violence -

BCIFV works to eliminate emotional abuse, psychological abuse, neglect, financial exploitation, destruction of property, injury to pets, physical assault, sexual assault and homicide in relationships of family, trust or dependency.

Link:

http://www.bcifv.org/index.shtml

-------------------
Good resource with additional links. Although it is in the United States, RAINN could provide more information as needed.

The Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network is the nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization. RAINN operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline and carries out programs to prevent sexual assault, help victims and ensure that rapists are brought to justice. (Free. Confidential. 24/7)


What should I do?

-Find a safe environment.

-Know that what happened was not your fault and that now you should do what is best for you.

-Report the attack to police.

-If you know that you will never report, still consider:

Get medical attention. Even with no physical injuries, it is important to determine the risks of STDs and pregnancy.

Links:

http://www.rainn.org/


http://www.rainn.org/what-should-i-do/index.html?PHPSESSID=1f63610f7c63ab3ebd326257fa2e1fbb

April 20, 2007 3:57 PM

Sunshine did you see this post earlier.This the one I meant to copy earlier for you.Sorry,just trying to help.

CeeCee said...

At the risk of being repetitive, my objection to Imus' statement is that he called young women who had done the right things, on and off the court, to be in a position that deserved positive reinforcement not derogatory slurs. Granted he is not the worst of the worst; and just because he had been allowed to make the remarks before, doesn't mean he gets a free pass for life. Unfortunately, there is always someone, who may be worse, to take his place. It was a small victory, but I'll take it. It also made a difference to those young women.

Firing him is not going to change America, but it did give me half-a-second of satisfaction, a glimpse at what doing the right thing looks like, and it paused, if ever so briefly, those who do say a whole lot worse. Oh yes, it also gave me a chance to identify who is real and who isn't...sorta of what I like to call "the fly on the wall perspective."

On Thursday's show of his last week, Sam made it crystal clear and got it right when he spoke about its significance.

So
m the a-c said...
I am sorry it wasn't good for you
BUT for me it was gooooooooooooood!

Take something for your nausea and get over it. It's done.

toniD said...

Good night all!

Later

Sunshine said...

yes,read it earlier, no prob with making sure, i prefer it.

a dam good checklist also to have around.

i think i've got most of it covered.

mmrules said...

Sunshine:Good.I kinda new at this posting thing.But,I'm trying..I saw you pop up on the blog and thought I could help you by copying those post for you.Incase you missed them..

Sunshine said...

of course, and thanks.

so posting is no prob here usually,

good peeps, lotsa accumulated experience and data, and Dada.

we specialise in bad puns, worse jokes and excellent links

Anonymous said...

//1. The new blog will roll out within three weeks, maybe earlier. It will allow for sub blogs or diaries.//

YAY!

And then the Carebears will come and give us all hugs!

yippy I can't wait!

air ono where are you lately?

-conbo

ps i snark because I love

or because I am mean

one of the two

i don't know for sure

Sunshine said...

mean snark love!

is that anyting like festive ferrets?

Sunshine said...

i demand a LP diary, with animate goodnesseses.

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