Monday, April 2, 2007

Monday: We walked through the desert for this?!

It looks like the "loyal Bushies" are fleeing this administration like Jews from Egypt. Matthew Dowd didn't even wait for his bread to rise. Tonight begins the Jewish holiday of Passover, but Sam's in the driver's seat for today, before he heads out of town for two days to get in touch with his roots. Today Sam welcomes back Professor Juan Cole, Clintonite Sidney Blumenthal, and Bill Scher from Liberal Oasis. Last stop for yeast!

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Waiting for Cicero said...

Thanks, Sunny.

Gotta get back to work.

bbl

Bob26003 said...

Howdy Blog!

Bush should fear a world where peoples are more interacted!

Anonymous said...

Suzy Creamcheese, What’s gotten inta ya, honey?

Sunshine Jim said...

just went to the library and found the sequel to the "Canticles of Leibowitz' by Walter M Miller Jr.

40 years after the first book.

looks like a dandy story.

Anonymous said...

War Dog said...

Does this Stephanie Miller like Hillary?


She likes her as far as she thinks she'd probably be a good president, but hates her triangulations and also her voice. Thinks she needs some lessons on speaking in public loudly. Especially with Flat A's. And does an impression of Hillary (saying that it comes from Mars Attacks).

Anonymous said...

Stephanie Miller is great, but I doubt Air America is going to go with a syndicated Jones Radio show. I wouldn't want them to buy her, since clearly they BLOW at business.

Sunshine Jim said...

Suzy Creamcheese and Frank

http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/docs/ten_years/ten_years_17.jpg

Anonymous said...

I was surprised to read so many people lugging Ms. Miller here. Her show gets real funny sometimes.

I've had to pull my car over a couple of times, I was laughing so goddam hard at her show.

Anonymous said...

That one day Miller (inadvertantly?) replaced Sam here in NYC was enough for me to say if Sam goes and Miller replaces him I'll have to find something else to listen to until Randi comes on.

Sammy & Armey followed by Miller would just be too much for me to take. Awful.

Sunshine Jim said...

Suzy Creamchese #1 = Jeannie Vassoir

Anonymous said...

would just be too much for me to take. Awful.

April 2, 2007 7:47 PM

You should just kill yourself now!

Why wait?

Sunshine Jim said...

actually steph can be quite entertaining.

shw's sorta like 'Janeane Light' politically.

she has so many gaps in her understanding and research that i find myself losing interest frequently.

Anonymous said...

And that is EXACTLY why she has that crack staff that is on top of everything.

She fronts and Jim Ward and company crack!

Decent radio!

Anonymous said...

The good thing about Miller's show...and hang with me on this....is that she brings in the slow learners and people who are in conversion from right wing illness.

A lot of more radical libs have a problem with this...but the market is there.

Quite a few tight assed people tune into Miller's show...like what they hear...and become more open minded.

That's a GOOD THING!

Anonymous said...

It's a good show...the three of them work well together

But I still like Sam's show out of the two...because Sam involves his audience and also promotes blogs

-conbo

Anonymous said...

//Quite a few tight assed people tune into Miller's show...like what they hear...and become more open minded.

That's a GOOD THING!//

yeah, her show does do that...

I'm sure War Dog will enjoy it

Stephanie will have a new fan

-conbo

But. I will miss Sam on air everyday

Sunshine Jim said...

OK

i'll listen to Steph if she does monday, wendsday and friday Stephcam topless talk show hosting.

Anonymous said...

I REALLY don't think War Dog would care for Ms. Miller.

I think she is MUCH TOO UPPITY for his tastes.

She can crack!

The righties have threatened her life.

She is earning her stripes.

Alice said...

VICTORY: Supreme Court Rebukes Bush re: Climate, Carbon & Car Emissions

Sunshine Jim said...

Jim Ward has to go topless too.

Anonymous said...

the righties threaten everyone's life

it is their way

-conbo

Sunshine Jim said...

the righties are wimping out,

i have'nt gotten a decent death threat in months.

Sunshine Jim said...

Supoena power and Polar bears.

almost enough for a haiku

Anonymous said...

my life has never been threatened
but I am usually questioned about my al aqaida connections and why i hate America

-conbo

Anonymous said...

the righties threaten everyone's life

it is their way

-conbo

April 2, 2007 8:18 PM

If you got a real death threat or someone sent you a white powder in the mail, you would shit your pants!

Be honest.

Sunshine Jim said...

If you got a real death threat or someone sent you a white powder in the mail, you would shit your pants!""

she'd get a press agent and start on a book with me as a ghost writer.

"How I Survived Mutant Blogging"

Sunshine Jim said...

"as a teenager"

Sunshine Jim said...

"The Generation Next Guide To The Blog Wars"

"A Young Girls Adventures With Woot!"

Sunshine Jim said...

"The Neener Neener Solution"

Anonymous said...

the righties threaten everyone's life

it is their way

-conbo

April 2, 2007 8:18 PM

If you got a real death threat or someone sent you a white powder in the mail, you would shit your pants!

Be honest.

Uh yeah I would be scared...what is your point?

I think that is what death threats imply...bodily harm.

-conbo

Anonymous said...

RE: Justin Raimondo

Being a libertarian is a pretty easy thing, isn't it? Since there are no well-know libertarians in history you can easily distinguish yourself from being a Repub or Democrat without having to prove that what you stand for can be practically applied in the real world.

Anonymous said...

-------------------

Waiting for Cicero!

Marcus Tullius (aka "Chickpea") dropped by earlier and was waiting for you.

Here’s a message from both of us:


******************************
"Felix sit natalis dies!"

(Happy Birthday!)
******************************


(N.B. Cicero hopes you attend the "Toga Birthday Party" rather than waiting for him).

Alice said...

Hey cool! Here'ssome stories of the "miraculous" peace sign on the capital lawn....John Winston is going to do a post on this too....

And here's a picture of the mysterious peace symbol on the Capitol lawn.

Anonymous said...

I got off on the 13th floor.

Anonymous said...

And here's a picture of the mysterious peace symbol on the Capitol lawn.

that is cool! it is a miracle!!!!!

-conbo

Alice said...

...
Skip and bounce into a new reality.

Lets form a anarchist Corporation. Based upon all the great anarchist ideals to stand up and against capitalism. Such an entity would proably be quicker and more responsive than a traditional corportation if created properly.

Peace


*

Nice comment I wanted to share...

Alice said...

Crank Bait said...

anarchist corporation: kinda like an atheistic religion, only different.

April 2, 2007 10:17 PM

Yes! :)

Sunshine Jim said...

Take my wife...

or else...

Sunshine Jim said...

i'm a Librultarian...

Alice said...

Dada...(mister there is no time on the blog, only timestamps..)

http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/glor_018/golden.html

Is there some reason why there's no CD7 for the Golden Dawn audio? Or just a mistake maybe?

War Dog said...

Another perfect match for The War Dog Plan...

We plan to invade Iran in 2008...

Just in time to prevent another terrorist nation from getting The Bomb...

It all about the timing..!!!!!!

======================================================================


Exclusive: Iran Nuclear Bomb Could Be Possible by 2009

April 02, 2007 6:15 PM

Brian Ross and Christopher Isham Report:

Iran has more than tripled its ability to produce enriched uranium in the last three months, adding some 1,000 centrifuges which are used to separate radioactive particles from the raw material.

The development means Iran could have enough material for a nuclear bomb by 2009, sources familiar with the dramatic upgrade tell ABC News.

The sources say the unexpected expansion is taking place at Iran's nuclear enrichment plant outside the city of Natanz, in a hardened facility 70 feet underground.

A spokesperson for the United Nation's International Atomic Energy Agency, the IAEA, declined to comment citing the "extreme sensitivity" of the situation with Iran.

Iran has already declared its above-ground operations at Natanz have some 320 centrifuges.

War Dog said...

This would be a good show for 08...

Hillary and Fred....

======================================================================


Novak: Fred Thompson for Real

Thompson garnered significant support (12 percent) in the first Gallup Poll conducted after he said on March 11 that he may run for president in 2008. McCain was stagnant at about 25 percent, Giuliani dropped to 31 percent, and Romney fell to 3 percent.

Novak writes: "Sophisticated social conservative activists tell me ... they are coming to see Thompson as the only conservative who can be nominated. Their appreciation of him stems not from his eight years as a U.S. senator from Tennessee but from his role as Manhattan district attorney on the TV series 'Law & Order.' The part was molded to Thompson's specifications as a tough prosecutor, lending him political star power."

Novak concludes on a personal note: "I met Fred Thompson in 1974 when he was Howard Baker's 31-year-old minority counsel on the Watergate investigation. I considered him cool, careful and conservative. He still is, and that is how he would run for president, which appears in the offing."

Anonymous said...

reach out and touch me

Anonymous said...

Stir the chowder!

War Dog said...

The Surge is Surging right along..

Probably a good idea to build up forces in the Mideast..

Warships too..!!!

You never know what might happen tomorrow...

======================================================================






Half of 'Surge' Forces Now Deployed to Iraq



BAGHDAD -- About half of the nearly 30,000 additional U.S. troops being sent to Iraq in a new effort to stabilize the country have now been deployed, a senior U.S. military official said on Sunday.

The rest were either in staging areas in neighboring Kuwait or on their way, Rear Admiral Mark Fox told a news conference in Baghdad. In total there are about 140,000 U.S. troops now in Iraq.

"We expect the remainder to be in place by early June," he said.

Most of the troops are being sent to Baghdad for a U.S.-backed security crackdown to curb rampant sectarian violence. Reinforcements are also being sent to western Anbar province, heartland of the Sunni Arab insurgency.

Alice said...

Hey War Dog...I thought you were a 9-5 er....?

What's the dealio with you being here after hours?

Anonymous said...

---------------

Crank Bait said...
anarchist corporation: kinda like an atheistic religion, only different.

April 2, 2007 10:17 PM

_______________________


"Anarchy is better than no government at all."

"Atheism is a non-prophet organization."

Sunshine Jim said...

Another perfect match for The Puppy Poop Plan...

We plan to invade Kansas City in 2008...

Just in time to prevent another terrorist nation enabler from getting Bombed...

It all about the timing..

Outcomes!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

What's the dealio with you being here after hours?

April 2, 2007 10:46 PM

He needed what you just gave him.

Attention.

War Dog said...

Here's a good idea for you guys to try..

Give em the finger on April 15th..!!!

Well, if you have any taxes to pay..

Or income..

Or investments..

Or anything along those lines...

If not, well better luck next year..!!!!

======================================================================



Cindy Sheehan: Stop Paying Your Taxes!

40 years ago there was a march on the Pentagon and here we are 40 years later with a march on the Pentagon and another illegal and immoral war.





I don�t want to be marching when I�m 90 years old in 2047 in another illegal and immoral war.





Let�s stop this Bullsh*t, now!





Do you know why our countires get into these bullsh*t wars all of the time?


It�s for the corporations!





It�s for the corporations like Halliburton and Exxon and Blackwater and to make them rich.





It�s to line the pockets of George Bush and Dick Cheney and all the war criminals�





We�re here in the shadow of the war machine.





It�s like being in the shadow of the death star. (Huh?)





They take their death and destruction and they export it around the world.


We need to shut it down. We need to stop paying our taxes to fund this war.

Alice said...

Oh puddle...no duff...

Have you noticed he comes here even IF no one speaks to him?

Sooo...

War Dog said...

I'm in town tonight..

Just doin what I can to support the blog and keep it goin...

Where the hell is Nobs...???

He should stop by before Sammy gets the axe..

After that, he will have to use the little windows..

Sammy holds the key to big windows..!!!

Alice said...

*Hands War Dog a big bag of primo attention..*

War Dog said...

Is this new gal gonna have a blog..??

I have heard this Big Ed..

He was pretty good..

Not as good as Rush..

But who is..!!!

Sunshine Jim said...

your own. personal. jesus. said...

reach out and touch me

April 2, 2007 10:40 PM


HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

Anonymous said...

He'll be off and running all night, now! All he needs is that one bite!

Give him his due.

World class troll!

War Dog said...

I can't stay ...

Printing tonight..

I been bike riding during the day...

I bought a new Rans V2 FORMULA 26

http://www.ransbikes.com/Formula2607/EV226.jpg

Anonymous said...

no kidding

all night it will be

the plan! Iran! Hillary the plan and Iran!

STFU

-conbo

Sunshine Jim said...

"Atheism is a non-prophet organization."

(Snark!)

War Dog said...

Can't stay..

I just breaks my heart to see the old timers struggling like this...

Where are you gonna post all your Crazy Talk Stories if this old thing dries up..

Is Crazy Talk still Crazy talk if no one reads it..???

Alice said...

I don't know where Nobody is..last i heard from SJ he was waiting for his kid after a movie or something..& I think Catharine knows where he's been she said...

I was going to email him a couple times, but didn't...

Open the link "In New Tab' WD...that makes it a full screen...

War Dog said...

I could talk about Hillary all night..

But Money First...

Hillary would understand that..!!!!

Ya gotta love Hillary..!!!

Anonymous said...

Is Crazy Talk still Crazy talk if no one reads it..???

April 2, 2007 10:59 PM

Crank??????

You wanna handle this?

War Dog said...

Nobs should be here for the big farwell show....

He is probably out tryin to sell a goat to pay this taxes to he doesn't end up like Cindy..!!!

Sunshine Jim said...

Fantasy Iland!

"The Plan! The Plan!

Boss it's the Plan!"

Anonymous said...

There's no name you can call him that bothers him.

No insult phases him.

He just plows on...spamming.

Over and over he spams...

about the plan and the list and Hillary and crazy talk and Sam's job and will he lose it or will he have it and Air America is going down and it will certainily happen soon and on and on and on about the plan and the list and the crazy talk and Hillary and it never ends.

Anonymous said...

Star Vox said...

"Anarchy is better than no government at all."

"Atheism is a non-prophet organization."

April 2, 2007 10:47 PM

______________

Judaism-Christianity-Islam:

A begrudging prophet-sharing co-op wherein striking similarities are ignored and differences are magnified to preserve the inexpressible glory of righteous indignation.

A world crippled and maimed by its inability to understand and appreciate metaphor.

p.s. I owe you an email, vox estrella. Been a rough patch. Perhaps I'm growing old (tain't even forty yet), but people I know just keep a-dyin'.

That's life (and death), I guess.

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine what War Dogs wife goes through?!!!

No wonder he has a motorhome!!!

It was the only way to save the marriage

-conbo

War Dog said...

Spam...

How can you spam this place..???

Ha ha ha ha...

Some things just can not be done..

This place is spam..

I bet Sam starts blogging every night now that he will be a man of leisure....

He just loves his blog

Anonymous said...

Over and over he spams...

about the plan and the list and Hillary and crazy talk and Sam's job and will he lose it or will he have it and Air America is going down and it will certainily happen soon and on and on and on about the plan and the list and the crazy talk and Hillary and it never ends.

April 2, 2007 11:04 PM

Anonymous said...

hi Dr!

:)

-conbo

Alice said...

Sorry, dr... I hope you're doing ok....

Waiting for Cicero said...

"Is Crazy Talk still Crazy talk if no one reads it..???"

Like when I collapse ur comments? Yeah, it's still crazy.

Do me a b-day favor, pooch. Come back another day.

Thanks in advance.

Sunshine Jim said...

WADOO DOO's Kharma!

http://tinyurl.com/33fc5a

War Dog said...

A new Rv..

Big enough to hold the tandem and camp...

Little enough to park anywhere..

We rode on Saturday..

We ride again on Wednesday..

Then we go train all weekend..

Married for 30 years...

It's all in picking the right one ..

You must be able to see the future..!!!

Anonymous said...

//It's all in picking the right one ..

You must be able to see the future..!!!//

picking the right RV or wife or both?

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

Ah, the other half of the two part "War Dog antidote" is here.

: )

Wish 'twere under happier circumstances, dr, but damn, it's good to read ya.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya DR,

love em while their here.

Waiting for Cicero said...

If you are picking an RV, may I suggest the one Slim Pickens preferred in Dr. Strangelove?

I think you'd enjoy the way it rides.

War Dog said...

I'm going to use the big Rv to tow the little Rv...

And I am going to use the little Rv to tow the Truck..

So if you guys could do what you can to conserve fuel..

I would really like that...

It is not about the price..

But availability...

I can't tow the Rv with my bike...

Reefer Jello said...

Sheesh! The Buckeyes are getting killed in yet another national title game. Disgusting!

How are you all doing? I have a friend in visiting from Calif. so been busy all weekend.

When I left, the thing about Sam's last two shows was happening and I guess it's real.

What a bummer!

DR....haven't seen you in a while. I'm a lot older than you and I seem to be having friends go down every week.

Sunshine Jim said...

(sorry for the mispell)

"love em while they're here."

(suprised sister mary lugwrench did'nt whack me with a heavenly aisle brush)

Anonymous said...

Happy Birthday again Cicero!

You are older than me now!!

:)

haha!

-conbo

War Dog said...

Both really..

You need both...

Oh, I forgot..

The truck tows the boat.

So if we can keep this thing going for another 30 years or so, I will done playin...

And I can move to the porch..!!!

Anonymous said...

Hi, conbo. Ain't been keepin' up, but if you've moved, hope it's been for the better.

Also, tx. Alice, Jim, WfC, Reefer. Should say, inna count yer blessings kinda way, there's a whole raft a people a whole lot worse off'n me. By far.

It is what it is.

Waiting for Cicero said...

Thank you again, #!

You born in '80, too?

There's been a Bush or a Clinton on every Presidential ballot in my life.

Suck.

War Dog said...

Gotta get back to work..

Don't let the blog fizzle out while I am gone..

Will the New Gal know this blog exists..?????????????

Wado..............................

Sunshine Jim said...

eya RJ!

Welcome to the 'Rocky Dogger Horror Show'!

(we're about to throw the toast at him)

Anonymous said...

i am 28...

oh wait! i am older than you now!

-conbo

Anonymous said...

Carter was president when I was born

-conbo

War Dog, Stephanie Miller has her own blog. She has for quite some time.

Cicero is the baby of the blog!

Anonymous said...

WaitingForCicero said...

There's been a Bush or a Clinton on every Presidential ballot in my life.

April 2, 2007 11:21 PM

___________

That's an Obama-nation!

Reefer Jello said...

I gotta laugh when I read Doggie talking about THE SURGE!

You can almost feel him having his own personal surge, just writing the words.

Sitting there in his underwear!

Anonymous said...

was he?

or maybe Reagan was...yes I was born in 78.

Didn't you live through Reagan too, WFC?

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

Ah.

I wonder if that makes me the youngest one here?

I think prowse was in her teens, but I haven't seen her in a while.

Bob's in the same general age range as us, isn't he?

Sunshine Jim said...

i think Kate is the youngest.

Anonymous said...

Bob is younger than us. 24 I think.

Carter was president until 81 according to wikipedia

-conbo

Sunshine Jim said...

or maybe ToniD's grandson.

(or maybe #'s son, the bloggasaurus)

Waiting for Cicero said...

I was born in 1980.

Yeah I survived Reagan. His veep was Bush 41. That's why I made the Bush/Clinton point.

Anonymous said...

-----------------
dr said...

Judaism-Christianity-Islam:

A begrudging prophet-sharing co-op wherein striking similarities are ignored and differences are magnified to preserve the inexpressible glory of righteous indignation.
A world crippled and maimed by its inability to understand and appreciate metaphor.

________________________

dr,
This will not do for a bumper sticker!

*******************

Welcome back!

Vox Estrella has been wondering about you. I hope you are in good health.

I look forward to hearing more from you!

Waiting for Cicero said...

Carter was still Pres, but every election since I was born has contained a Bush or Clinton on the national ballot.

Anonymous said...

//Yeah I survived Reagan. His veep was Bush 41. That's why I made the Bush/Clinton point.//

don't mind me I am definitely not have a sharp day ;)

-conbo

Sunshine Jim said...

might make a good motorhome sticker

Alice said...

WFC you might like this..it's from greylodge..

Ok..it's uploading...just a sec.. :)

How you feelin' birthday person?!

Anonymous said...

//don't mind me I am definitely not have a sharp day ;)//

hahahahahaha!

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

Kate? From ono-land?

And yeah, D-boy and toniD's grandson definitely have me beat.

I always figured Bob was a little older than I was. Weird, I guess.

Reefer Jello said...

I've been reading the threads and it looks like no one has lost their script in three days.

Excellent!

Anonymous said...

hahahaha!

-conbo

Anonymous said...

Star Vox said...
-----------------
dr said...

Judaism-Christianity-Islam:

A begrudging prophet-sharing co-op wherein striking similarities are ignored and differences are magnified to preserve the inexpressible glory of righteous indignation.
A world crippled and maimed by its inability to understand and appreciate metaphor.

________________________

dr,
This will not do for a bumper sticker!

April 2, 2007 11:33 PM

.................

bumper take-two:

Prophet-sharing: "Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who."

Prolly still not tight enough. Ah, well, damned by verbosity once again.

Night, owls.

Sunshine Jim said...

"So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was."

Molly Ivins

Anonymous said...

i could be wrong about Bob, but I think I remember him saying he was 24 or 25 when he first started posting here.

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

"don't mind me I am definitely not have a sharp day ;)"

That make to of us. : )

---

I'm good, A. Little tired, gotta lot of work done today. Putting the rest of my house in order now. Landlord's coming by on Thursday, and I need to clean up my garage/PC graveyard, and stash my cats somewhere. : /

Anonymous said...

nite DR!

-conbo

Waiting for Cicero said...

Good night, dr.

"May flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."

Alice said...

Dr. Strangelove's Game By Paul Strathern

Sunshine Jim said...

Kate? From ono-land?""

ya! i miss her! she was in high school a few years ago.

know we lost a buncha peeps during all the blog switching and blog outs

Reefer Jello said...

Molly Ivans was a natural born Merry Prankster and I was madly in love with her for many years but she never knew it.

Alas.

Sunshine Jim said...

night DR,

keep on keeping on.

Reefer Jello said...

I have a busy day tamarra so I am off to Dreamsville!

See ya!

Sunshine Jim said...

Molly was a gem.

Sunshine Jim said...

nite RJ.

good luck!

Alice said...

Drag, WFC...I hope you pass muster...

I've been thinking a lot about my house & the stuff in it sinc you all were talkiing about your furnishings....

Waiting for Cicero said...

Ooh...

ebook! Way cool, A.! Thanks for the link.

---

G'night to you and yours, RJ. Sweetest of dreams!

Alice said...

Reefer Jello said...

I've been reading the threads and it looks like no one has lost their script in three days.

Excellent!

April 2, 2007 11:38 PM

You're funny reefer... :) Goodnight... xoxo

Alice said...

I know I forgot the comma, Grammar Bait...

Alice said...

Dammit!

I mean, Punctuation Bait...

:)

Waiting for Cicero said...

I'll pass, it's just a pain in the ass. The house itself is in good shape, no damage, very minimal amount of cleaning to do.

The "graveyard, though...

Well, that's another story.

I'm just concerned he might be selling the place. I've got a pretty good deal here, and I'd hate to lose it.

Plus, when I was younger, I moved at an average of a new house every nine or ten months. In my eleven pre-college school years, I went to 13 schools, two of which I was at for 2 years or longer. Blech

I don't want to move again for a while.

Waiting for Cicero said...

What have you been thinking about your furniture, A.?

Alice said...

about how it's all mish mash like you guys..

Specifically about these fun pillows that I bought for cheap & am ambivalent about using because of the cat hair & "stuff" they do to my linens & things...

Most of me is saying..."Jeeez woman..they were cheap..you have no kids...they're just effin' pillows fer god's sake...use em..I they get messed up, toss em..."

1% of me says.."Yeah, But how am I going to clean em?" Or, "Why not put them in the library (at home) so only I can use them..?"

Sunshine Jim said...

Compassion

Compassion is the finest weapon and best defence.
If you would establish harmony,
Compassion must surround you like a fortress.

Therefore,
A good soldier does not inspire fear;
A good fighter does not display aggression;
A good conqueror does not engage in battle;
A good leader does not exercise authority.

This is the value of unimportance;
This is how to win the cooperation of others;
This to how to build the same harmony that is in nature.

Alice said...

SJ, do you have Winston's mail by any weird chance? The @mlode one doesn't work anymore...

Waiting for Cicero said...

Back later, folks.

Sunshine Jim said...

Winston's ?

who is winston?

i should know i think.

Sunshine Jim said...

Cya WFC!

Alice said...

John Winston. "The paranormal guy..."

Sunshine Jim said...

Oh yeah!

winston at the Library!

don't think he ever emiled me...

Alice said...

I could just ask him when I see him next...but I thought maybe....I have no patience.. & wanted to email him right away about finding that pace sign @ the capital story...

Sunshine Jim said...

winston at your Library right?

Sunshine Jim said...

he'll enjoy the story.

start a folder of bits for him?

Alice said...

Yes.

Anonymous said...

Rightist Indignation
GOP Insider Vic Gold Launches a Broadside at the State of the Party


"Invasion of the Party Snatchers:
How the Holy-Rollers and the Neo-Cons
Destroyed the GOP."

Alice said...

He's the one who told me about it a few days ago..Then this afternoon I was following a link to a story with Sam's name in it & in the same blog post, there was a link to that caption and link to that story...I had been looking for the story last night, or the night before and couldn't find it...so it was weird how I did find it, I think....

Ok..I'm tired..Good night, Blog.. xoxox

Alice said...

One more... :)

Monday, April 02, 2007

duncan black wants to shoot liberal blogger in the face

that's sad. especially because, apparently, the blogger that atrios wants to shoot in the face wasn't really whining about blogrolls, but was simply commenting on the whole blogroll amnesty day phenomenon, albeit in a wide-ranging and thoughtful manner; that is to say, inspecting the issue from all sides.

(we find it amusing that terrance's post on amnesty day quotes this humble site quite a bit to illustrate the one side of the argument that favors big blogrolls; we would think that if duncan wanted to shoot anyone in the face, it would be skippy, and not terrance, who goes on to present the other side of the argument quite thoroghly, too. well, shoot the messenger, and all that.)

apparently, in keeping with jon swift's original assessment of blogroll amnesty day, duncan reverts to a decidedly conservative response when confronted with an opposing opinion. that's too bad.

we would posit that if the original blogroll purge, and blogrolls in themselves, were of such unimportance (as stated by those who supported the purge), then duncan is guilty of supreme over-reacting.

(caveat: we know that duncan didn't really shoot terrance in the face, nor does he actually want to. but if it's so unimiportant, why does the discussion of amnesty day by other blogs who are not in the atrios sphere of influence elicit such an extreme reaction by duncan? doth the lady protest too much?)

thanks and a tip of the kangaroo tail to jon swift who alerted us to the cheney-like desires of duncan.

http://xnerg.blogspot.com/2007/04/duncan-black-wants-to-shoot-liberal.html

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toniD said...

Evening all.

Just home from work and was reading up blog. Sorry I missed dr and RJ.

There's a full moon and it was very evident at work tonight. Everyone was in a bad mood so I had to put on the charm to settle them down. Most left smiling though.

How's everyone.

Sunshine Jim said...

blogroll amnesty day""

huh? whazzat?

Sunshine Jim said...

eya T!

just fine, nailed down a good contract here. gonna be busy for a few months during the days.

toniD said...

Another one bites the dust. Wade Horn, the Bush administration’s point man for welfare reform, Head Start and abstinence education, resigned Monday as assistant secretary for children and families. Horn “oversaw a dramatic increase in funding for abstinence education, which now exceeds $200 million a year” and gave more money to “faith-based groups and organizations that work to help couples improve their marriage.”

LINK

toniD said...

Good Jim!! Make some money but be careful of your back.

toniD said...

Pelosi shrugs off White House criticism of Syria trip. “Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on Monday shrugged off White House criticism of her upcoming trip to Damascus… Speaking hours after arriving in Lebanon, Pelosi indicated the Bush administration was singling out her trip to Syria, but ignoring the recent visits by Republican members of Congress. ‘It’s interesting because three of our colleagues, who are all Republicans, were in Syria yesterday and I didn’t hear the White House speaking out about that,’ Pelosi said… ‘I think that it was an excellent idea for them to go,’ said Pelosi, who is to meet Syrian leaders Wednesday. ‘And I think it’s an excellent idea for us to go, as well.’”

LINK

toniD said...

Senators Now Decrying ‘Pork’ Voted To Approve ‘Railroad To Nowhere’
Because Americans strongly back a timeline to redeploy from Iraq, conservatives have focused their opposition to the recently-passed Iraq redeployment legislation on the domestic spending that’s attached:

Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY): “They used this serious effort, what should have been a serious effort to fund the troops as an opportunity…to get pork for various and sordid products back home.”

Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS): “So why are we going through this exercise of heaping pork on the backs of our men and women in uniform and trying to put artificial dates which will not occur?”

We know this isn’t true. Just last year, these same conservatives endorsed the emergency supplemental bill that included $15 billion in domestic spending, including “$4 billion for farmers, $1.1 billion for Gulf Coast fisheries, and $1 billion in grants to states.”

The bill also included the notorious $700 million Railroad to Nowhere in Mississippi, reportedly the largest earmark ever, sponsored by Senate Minority Whip Lott. Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) introduced an amendment aimed at eliminating Lott’s egregious pork project, but it was defeated. Fully 18 senators who last week opposed the Iraq spending bill — including Minority Leader McConnell and Minority Whip Lott — voted last year to preserve the Railroad to Nowhere.

LINK

toniD said...

Andrea Mitchell (sort of) issues a correction. Salon.com’s Joan Walsh highlights a strange moment on tonight’s Hardball: “Without mentioning what had been discussed on Sunday, Matthews asked Mitchell, rather out of the blue, to talk about what Petraeus was telling senators. ‘It’s a good thing you bring that up,’ Mitchell replied, and she went on to say that Petraeus recently held a ‘closed circuit briefing’ for senators of both parties, ‘Democrats as well as Republicans.’ But Mitchell also repeated her claim from Sunday that ‘moderate Republican senators’ were privately saying they opposed Bush’s so-called troop surge, but would publicly support it out of respect for Petraeus, and give the general and the president until the summer to make progress in the war.”

LINK

Anonymous said...

Ohio Republican David Hobson will be accompanying Pelosi.

Sunshine Jim said...

hee! you betcha.

lots of kneeling for hours at the alter of the money gods in this one...

Sunshine Jim said...

NV Gov. Jim Gibbons lawyering up with high-priced Washington, D.C., attorney to prepare for FBI investigation into his associations with a company awarded secret military contracts when Gibbons was in Congress 4-2 POAC

http://tinyurl.com/2hq2u7

Sunshine Jim said...

Government contractor that set up a billion-dollar-a-year federal reading program hired to assess its own failed program. 4-2 POAC


http://tinyurl.com/2qxh9e

Sunshine Jim said...

More Potential 2004 Election Illegalities Rock Ohio's Hocking County As Cleveland Braces For A Legal Firestorm 4-2 POAC

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0704/S00014.htm

toniD said...

The botched US raid that led to the hostage crisis
By Patrick Cockburn
Published: 03 April 2007
A failed American attempt to abduct two senior Iranian security officers on an official visit to northern Iraq was the starting pistol for a crisis that 10 weeks later led to Iranians seizing 15 British sailors and Marines.

Early on the morning of 11 January, helicopter-born US forces launched a surprise raid on a long-established Iranian liaison office in the city of Arbil in Iraqi Kurdistan. They captured five relatively junior Iranian officials whom the US accuses of being intelligence agents and still holds.

In reality the US attack had a far more ambitious objective, The Independent has learned. The aim of the raid, launched without informing the Kurdish authorities, was to seize two men at the very heart of the Iranian security establishment.

Better understanding of the seriousness of the US action in Arbil - and the angry Iranian response to it - should have led Downing Street and the Ministry of Defence to realise that Iran was likely to retaliate against American or British forces such as highly vulnerable Navy search parties in the Gulf. The two senior Iranian officers the US sought to capture were Mohammed Jafari, the powerful deputy head of the Iranian National Security Council, and General Minojahar Frouzanda, the chief of intelligence of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, according to Kurdish officials.

LINK

nut-meg said...

oh man... I ned sleep...

toniD said...

Jim, it never stops with this admin. There are so many things they are doing, you can't keep up.

It's going to take years to uncover all the damage done.

toniD said...

Hey Meg! How's your patrick doing?

Has he settled down yet?

Sunshine Jim said...

eya Meg!

we love ya. give patrick a scritch for me!

toniD said...

US President George W. Bush, trying to make a crucial legal deadline, rushed a newly minted free trade agreement with South Korea to Congress early Monday, arguing the deal would "further enhance" the bilateral partnership.

The move came in the dead of night, barely an hour after an announcement in Seoul that US and South Korean negotiators had reached the deal that is expected to boost trade between the two countries by billions of dollars.

Still, it is not certain that the administration will be able to ratify the accord, the largest for the United States since the North American Free Trade Agreement, by the end of June, when Bush's so-called fast-track trade promotion authority expires.

The authority allows the president to submit trade agreements to Congress for a straight up or down vote, thus preventing lawmakers from introducing piecemeal amendments.

It was granted to Bush in 2001, when the House of Representatives was controlled by fellow Republicans, by a razor-thin majority. Now that Democrats control both chambers, its renewal appears problematic.

This smells, why the rush?

Sunshine Jim said...

Pelosi to discuss kidnapped Israelis with Syrian president 4-2

http://www.alaskareport.com/z45648.htm


When Speaker Pelosi leads a bipartisan delegation to Syria, she's a traitor to her country. When GOP lawmakers visit Syria, well, the right doesn't want to talk about it. 4-2

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10378.html


Echoing White House, Kristol attacked Pelosi for trip to Syria, which GOP-led delegation also visited 4-2

http://mediamatters.org/items/200704010001


Here's why: The Bush Administration is ratcheting up the pressure on Syria 4-2


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013379.php

Sunshine Jim said...

at the end of June, Bush's so-called fast-track trade promotion authority expires.

Sunshine Jim said...

hee hee hee!

Additional Republican calls on Gonzales to resign. 4-2

http://tinyurl.com/ysb7ot

toniD said...

Here's the lede of a piece from the always invaluable Warren Strobel ...



President Bush is losing his top day-to-day adviser on Iraq, the White House confirmed Monday.

Meghan L. O'Sullivan, who has played a key behind-the-scenes role in implementing Bush's controversial Iraq policies over the past four years, will leave later this spring.

Her departure, which follows that of her deputy, could leave the White House with a vacuum of long-term experience on Iraq policy, and it comes as Bush and the Democratic-controlled Congress prepare for a showdown over withdrawing U.S. troops.


Not to be catty. But could leave the White House with a vacuum of long-term experience on Iraq policy? Think that train's already left the station, hasn't it?


-- Josh Marshall

LINK

nut-meg said...

PAtrick is super. He is sitting on my foot.

Sunshine Jim said...

My Dotters B'day coming up here.

i'm so glad we had her.

nut-meg said...

Jesse L Martin is just HOTT!

Sunshine Jim said...

Meghan L. O'Sullivan, who has played a key behind-the-scenes role in implementing Bush's controversial Iraq policies over the past four years, will leave later this spring.""

good riddance!

Sunshine Jim said...

Jesse L Martin

http://www.manmademultimedia.com/magazine/news/ent/2006/HBO_Golden_Globes/ggw06JesseLMartin.jpg

Peace!

nut-meg said...

Oh dear, poor War Dog appears to be coming unglued (again)

Sunshine Jim said...

ot's time to make dinner,

i'll pop in after.

love ya all!

Sunshine Jim said...

unglued and leaking at the seams.

swear to god if he lived here i'd drag him into some alternate realities he's never thought of experiencing.

he's gotten away with that petty selfish smallmindedness for decades if not his whole life.

"Status quo the way to go!"

nut-meg said...

How old is the girl Jim?

Anonymous said...

Josh said: 'Meghan L. O'Sullivan could leave the White House with a vacuum of long-term experience on Iraq policy? Think that train's already left the station, hasn't it? -- Josh Marshall -April 3, 2007 1:22 AM

'Long-term experience' implies somebody knew what they were doing, in the beginning. That train never had a tract to roll on.

Sunshine Jim said...

Sunshine is 37 this year!

i was 19 when she was born.

Sunshine Jim said...

Sunshine is 37 this year!

i was 19 when she was born.

toniD said...

Sorry guys zoning out. Need to sleep


Later

nut-meg said...

the cats are arguing

nut-meg said...

The girls name is really Sunshine?

nut-meg said...

oh no now I need to read this article about learning disability

nut-meg said...

gnite

Sunshine Jim said...

Yup,

named her after the sun, symbol of so many things.

it's a good story, a long one though.

Anonymous said...

hey Sam...I liked your post, very funny.

I actually just read it

have a good holiday

-conbo

air-ono said...

greetings from melbourne
: )

found a wickedly cool bar
(open till 3am)

man, the city makes me feel alive!!
(i'm never coming home)

air-ono said...

hi, connie!!!!

xxxxxxox!

War Dog said...

Yet another Happie Doggie Day...

Can you believe it...??

Don't you just love spring..???

I know I do...!!

Vacation in 2 more weeks..

We are going to Las Vegas...

That is always fun...

Did you know I used to live in Las Vegas..

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

It was a secret base....

Like Area 51...

But this one is real..!!!!

War Dog said...

So who is this guy..???

War Dog said...

It doesn't look like anyone cares..

toniD said...

Bush will hold a Rose Garden press conference today at 10 am to slam Congress’ efforts to push a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. CNN’s White House correspondent Elaine Quijano reports:

President Bush is showing no signs of blinking in his opposition to any kind of timetable for U.S. troop withdrawals in Iraq. And essentially, Soledad, that’s the message we expect to hear once more from the President today when he delivers remarks in the Rose Garden.

LINK

Anonymous said...

new Thread

Anonymous said...

Your comment that Obama said (or predicted) that the Democrats would cave in as soon as Bush issued a veto were off of the mark in a number of ways.In the first place it is not true the the CNN statements matched the alleged AP statements.  In fact there is a big contradiction.  Take a look at the DailyKos thread dealing with this here.So the real question is did Obama really say the key thing that the AP article claims he did.  There is reason to think that he did not because even though the AP article is full of quotes that are similar to the things that Obama said on CNN that say day, the key statement that was made the focus of the AP article where Obama is paraphrased as saying the after a veto congress would "quickly"  respond with a bill "without timelines" is not supported by any direct quotes.There is a lot of discussion about this odd fact in the above thread, and in the end many posters agreed that the AP article is very suspect, and is probably a hit on Obama designed to keep him from looking good next to Hillary on the anti-war front.The bottom line is that the old style print media will do this sort of thing to any Democrat and we just can't accept letting them paraphrase what candidates say.  Since there is a transcript of the CNN interview and none of the AP interview we should accept
that.And it is just nonsense to suggest that Obama said on CNN what the AP article claims he said in its interview.Fred in Vermont

Unknown said...

It seems that if you have a child serving in Iraq, you are excused for being against the war because you are emotional unless you are Cindy Sheehan, in which case you are crazy. If you don't have a child serving in Iraq and you are against the war, you are mean and unpatriotic and don't understand or support the troops. What if you are for the war and don't have a child in Iraq? I guess that just makes you a Republican?

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