Tuesday, February 27, 2007

Happy Tuesday

Here's the discussion thread for today's show. Rock 'n' roll!

418 comments:

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CrunchyKnee said...

Blogger, heh.

Mr. Seder and crew. Why not just use the AAR blog system? Ms. Maddow does, Franken used to. It is there.

NOT SAM said...

Good morning!

Anonymous said...

WHAT IS WRONG WITH MRR BLOG?

IT CANT BE BROKEN FOR THIS LONG.

DOES SAM NOT WANT TO PAY FOR IT ANYMORE?

DOES SAM ONLY PAY FOR SMALL BIT OF SUPPORT , THAT HAS BEEN EXCEDED IN FEBRUARY, AND HE HAS TO WAIT FOR MARCH TO START AGAIN?

MRR NEEDS TO HAVE A BLOG WITH A MORE PROFESSIONAL SEAMLESS DISCUSSION FORUM.


THIS IS A DISGRACE.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad that Sam is a non-conformist in this regard.

Avedon said...

I think Sammy may like Howie's post called "WILL BUSH'S APPEARANCE IN LOUISVILLE BE ANOTHER NAIL IN THE OLD KENTUCKY HOMO'S POLITICAL COFFIN?"

Personally, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be happy to be rid of Mitch McConnell.

Ron said...

Hiya Sam and bloggers!


It's just amazing that anyone still pays attention to Dobson - or do they?

+

Dobson's distortion of science under attack
published Monday, February 26, 2007
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2007/02/26/4


While James Dobson's Focus on the Family continues to cherry-pick and distort research on LGBT families, Soulforce and Truth Wins Out are raising the stakes to expose what they call a harmful and alarming disinformation campaign discriminating against American families.

A week after Robynne Sapp and Dotti Berry were arrested as part of Soulforce's new "Focus on the Facts" campaign, Truth Wins Out has launched a new Web site, RespectMyResearch.org.

"Dobson's latest op-ed in Time was the last straw," declared Wayne Besen, executive director of Truth Wins Out. "I called five different mainstream researchers, all of whom were floored that their research was being used to denounce LGBT families."

Dr. Judith Stacey was one of them.

"I've had to spend a lot of time correcting the record," Stacey confirmed. "When Dobson says thousands of studies demonstrate that children do better with a mom and a dad, he is not talking about research that studied gay and lesbian parents. He is talking about children who were raised by two heterosexual parents versus children who were raised by a single heterosexual parent."

All the major medical and professional associations, including the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, The American Counseling Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychoanalytic Association and the American Academy of Family Physicians, have unequivocally discredited Dobson's claims. ... [more at link]

==
RonNLC

cat chew said...

G'morning, campers.
SEDER, please change the link in the blue box on the mother blog so it links to the home page here.

Anonymous said...

Americans' refusal to look in the mirror presages our own demise

I often have the dubious pleasure of listening smug liberals whining about their "discomfort" with what they referred to as "Arab culture." There is an amazing phenomenon among Americans, so convinced of our own superiority, that we can be simultaneously ignorant about the world we dominate and yet utterly uninterested in our own history, culture, and society. The shit is about to hit the fan, folks--no more free passes for liberals and so- called "progressives" who prefer either to criticize foreign cultures or confine their domestic ire to the cabal in the White House.

Notwithstanding the innumerable war crimes committed by the neocon thugs, their little enterprise would have come to nothing without the full complicity, not to mention head start, of their "friends across the aisle," the other half of the American War Party.

-

What difference does it make, when what passes for journalism is almost exclusively filler to take up the space between the ads.

http://www.snoopstick.com/ said...

http://www.snoopstick.com/

scott said...

sam,

good get w/ Glenn Greenwald...great interview, keep up the good work!!

scott said...

Sam,
what do you make of Josh Marshall's post today that the WH doesn't even know what war its fighting...

other said...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/25/sharpton.thurmond.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

The Rev. Al Sharpton is a descendant of a slave owned by relatives of the late Sen. Strom Thurmond -- a discovery the civil rights activist called "shocking" on Sunday.

Cannabia said...

I like it when right wingers complain that all of the country's problems are caused by liberals. While we liberals know that we have no political power, we also know that we do have the power to make right winger's lives miserable by our mere existence. Each time you hear a Nazi complain that it's all "our" fault, just quietly smile and be content with the fact that
the Nazi is pissed off...
and for the wrong reason, which is even better.

Anonymous said...

Both wingers have only their own interests in mind.

Someday Sam Seder might notice that.

scott said...

ohhhhhhh smack!!

knscribe said...

A later AP story says up to 23 dead in the blast near Cheney in Bagram.

Alice said...

www.bayareaanarchistbookfair.org

March 17 & 18: Bay Area Anarchist Bookfair

SATURDAY, March 17, 10am-6pm

SUNDAY, March 18, 11am-5pm

*19 Speakers *Over 50 publishers and book vendors *Panel Discussions *Cafe *Free Bike Valet Parking *Artwork *Kid and Family Space *

Where: San Francisco County Fair Building in Golden
Gate Park, near Ninth Avenue and Lincoln Way
SAN FRANCISCO, CA

This event is FREE.

The Bay Area Anarchist Bookfair is one of the world's largest gatherings of anarchist and radical
literature, and a San Francisco tradition since 1995.

The Bookfair has expanded to two days for 2007!

There will be even more anarchist books, speakers, panelists and political groups from the Bay Area and around the country.

SPEAKERS: Jen Angel, Melody Berger, Chris Carlsson, Ward Churchill, Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, Stephen Dunifer, Fly, Aaron Gach, Tiny Garcia, James Kelman, Saul Landau, Josh Macphee, Wendy-o Matik, Keith McHenry, Cindy Milstein, David Solnit, Michelle Tea, James Tracy, Marina Sitrin

PANELS:
* Strategies to Uproot War and Empire
* IWW Standing Up to the Boss!
* The Future of Radical Print Publications
* Indigenous Perspectives on Anarchism: Resistance,
Solidarity & Paths of Self-Determination
* The F-Word Salon
* Connecting the Big Picture to the Little Picture
* The Future of Independent and Radical Bookselling

Everyone is invited!

Anonymous said...

looks like black tuesday is finally here. market is in free fall. must be those liberals...

Cannabia said...

Republicans despise being told that they are Nazi's. It drives them right up the wall! For the past six years, they have had a field day, calling us un-American and traitors. Now, I've discovered that they don't like to be called names as well. Anytime a person makes known to me that they're a
republican, I quickly say that they're Nazi's. It really makes them mad.

Anonymous said...

Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is a mainstay of Internet culture, an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990.

The law states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Anonymous said...

Tom, regarding the "one" bomb a day comment......there are a lot more that go off over there that you don't hear about......the ones that do get reported are the ones that hurt or kill, not the dozens of others that go off around troops or civilians with no real damage.....you should look at the DOD stats of reported explosions instead of just the ones that kill/hurt.

Mark Kuebel said...

Connect the dots. Cheney goes to Australia, Japan, Pakistan, and Afganistan. What's the next "surprise" location? Who cares? He's getting face-to-face support for his plans to bomb Iran. He's lining up his "allies," his excuses, his propaganda buddies for the coming bombing. This bombing will ignite the powder keg further than Iraq has . . .

Cheney's desperate to keep his minions lined up behind him, he's got enough problems back in the States with renegade Republicans, and the public in general. He's NOT run away from the Libby trial, what a bunch of low-brow thinking that is, and from some of our brighter bloggers, reporters, and pundits. You think Cheney cares about his image? You're crazy. He's been at 19% approval for how long? 3 years?

He follows his own path, and doesn't respond to the superficial gossipy zeitgeist. Get with it, he's the lynchpin in this madness, this crushing drive to fascism and global empire. -- Mark Kuebel, Manhattan

CrunchyKnee said...

Net Neutrality

Get busy.

q-virt said...

Congress has too much money to care about people who don't.

They're OWNED.

Fern said...

It's usually the black women in Congress doing what's right.

Perris said...

Cheney would look hot blown into pieces of chunky bloody flesh.

blah blah blah said...

kuebel's got a good point. we seem to be tracking real well to an april war with iran.

cheney is just getting all the ducks in a row. consider that the front page of investors business daily (a must read if you do any investing, despite the fact that its editorial content makes hitler look like a pansy assed liberal) today sports a picture of sailors working with a sidewinder missle somewhere in the persian gulf. the message to the faithful is quite clear...

Paul Is Not Dead said...

In most any other Countries you'd find the majority of the population out in force, risking death to prevent their governments from doing wrong.

Cannabia said...

Fuck Godwin! Republicans are Nazi's. It's a fact. If you are a republican, you are a Nazi. Live with it!

Anonymous said...

Paul Is Not Dead said...

In most any other Countries you'd find the majority of the population out in force, risking death to prevent their governments from doing wrong.

what planet do you live on? what ever happened to Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs? too many people are scratching to get by and survive to take to the streets...

Not Sam said...

Here's the story that Dewey is talking about:

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367

Spoonge said...

too many people are scratching to get by and survive to take to the streets...

///////////////////////////////

Yeah, they need to be healthier and better fed, like the French were when they began cutting off heads,

web_geek said...

Who is this dooshbag on the phone?

What an utter lack of basic reasoning skills.

web_geek said...

Pray to the carbon footprint totem!

Bwahahhhahahahaha!!!!!

paul is not dead said...

too many people are scratching to get by and survive to take to the streets...


People should just stop complaining and stop making a living complaining.

CrunchyKnee said...

web_geek said...

Who is this dooshbag on the phone?


I believe his name is Dewey and he is Sam's token con-follower. He is a moron.

blah blah blah said...

dewey, dewey, dewey

just pay up and get on with your life.

Alice said...

The people in Oaxaca and other places South hit rock bottom & then revolt.

Maybe american's haven't hit rock bottom yet.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Thanks Dude!

Dewey is a wool-dyed asshat.

web_geek said...

Do you know why you don't have diarrhea, Dewey?

Sam is on fire today!!!

As always...

Alice said...

Miss Bibi! :)

Good Morn...

web_geek said...

CrunchyKnee said...

I believe his name is Dewey and he is Sam's token con-follower. He is a moron.


Fank you. ;-)

Sunshine Jim said...

morning gang!

Dewey is too easy Sam.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Miss Bibi! :)

Good Morn...

February 27, 2007 7:18 AM


Alice, chica!

This new blog buggers me up badly. The link on Sam's other site keeps droping me in the same place, and I get bored and leave. I'm working and my attention is pretty much monopolized. I miss der old blog.

..and Dewey makes me sick. Kinda like that dipstick that used to be on Franken.

Anybody with children who harps on about 'voting his pocketbook' is f***ing his kids by default!

Anonymous said...

Cannabia said...

Fuck Godwin! Republicans are Nazi's. It's a fact. If you are a republican, you are a Nazi. Live with it!

February 27, 2007 7:06 AM

"I and those who believe as I do are good...those who don't are evil!"

The rationale of every zealot that ever walked the Earth....Right OR LEFT!

Sunshine Jim said...

i'd like to have Bernie discuss the people behind Cheney.

Alice said...

Josh Wolf

Anonymous said...

Something going on around the country that's not getting any attention on Air America or elsewhere is that the NRA is jamming "Shoot First" legislation down the throats of cowering state legislatures. Law enforcement everywhere is opposing it (because it's a horrible idea). The law just passed the Montana House after being shot down and then resuscitated by the NRA. [URL=http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/02/26/news/state/28-guns.txt]Billings Gazette[/URL] It's swirling down the porcelain of the North Dakota legislature. [URL=http://www.bismarckdems.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=602&Itemid=159]BismarckDems.com[/URL]

It's already been enacted in 15 states, including Colorado where they've seen at least one guy who's apparently gotten away with Murder. (See Colorado Springs Gazette, 12/21/2005 article entitled "A Case of Life Or Self Defense: Killer Goes Free Thanks to Shoot First" - the article is no longer available at the Gazette's website, but if you google the title, check out the cached version).

Alice said...

ICC names first war crimes suspects in Darfur

Prosecutors for the International Criminal Court on Tuesday named a former Sudan state interior minister and a militia commander as the first suspects it wants tried for war crimes in Darfur.

Chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo asked pre-trial judges to issue summonses for Ahmed Haroun, state interior minister during the height of the Darfur conflict, and militia commander Ali Muhammad Ali Abd-al-Rahman, also known as Ali Kushayb.

Haroun is currently Sudan's state humanitarian affairs minister, a post below the full ministerial level. Ali Kushayb was a commander of the Janjaweed militia, who prosecutors said led attacks on towns and villages, where dozens were killed.
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In a 94-page filing, prosecutors said there were reasonable grounds to believe the two bear criminal responsibility in relation to 51 counts of alleged crimes against humanity and war crimes committed against civilians in Darfur in 2003 and 2004.
...

Cannabia said...

That is such bullshit! Right wingers in America just hate the fact that they have turned into full blown Nazi's. Suck it up and live with it...if you are a republican....you are a Nazi!

Alice said...

Sorry..I forgot to cut part of that out..

*

-monopolized. I miss der old blog-

Me too.

Anonymous said...

News 12 Long Island

County finds banned gas additive poisoned Southampton man

(02/26/07) SOUTHAMPTON - A Southampton man finally discovered the cause of his illness, only to uncover new, more disturbing questions.
Seventy-three-year-old Louis DePasquale suffered through nine years of pain, which he describes as having something eat at his stomach lining. After several doctors failed to diagnose him, a letter last month from the Suffolk County Department of Health informed him his private well, from which he drank all his water, was contaminated with high levels of the now-banned gasoline additive methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE).
New York's Department of Environmental Conservation installed a water filtration system in DePasquale's basement and is providing bottled water. DePasquale says he feels much better after just days of drinking bottled water. The state has not identified the source of the contamination, though the investigation is ongoing.

CrunchyKnee said...

:lol:

:-)

Joel's Glen Beck is funny!

GBC said...

Morning everyone. You too Sam. :)

A little reality-based analysis from Jewish Voice for Peace Post

The common view that Arafat was solely responsible for the Camp David failure is false, but it is widely believed and that belief has colored the politics of the conflict to this very day. But some alternate versions, where Arafat is held blameless and painted as an innocent victim of American and Israeli machinations are equally false.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/48512/

bibimimi troll'p said...

SATAN'S IN YER LOINS!!!!!!!!1

daniel said...

Global warming could be a good thing. I mean, there arent enough Everglade crocadiles in the Great Lakes and Hudson Bay as far as Im concerned.

Anonymous said...

Global Warming = South Beach for everyone!

daniel said...

Thousands of children swin in the great lakes every summer. How can we let that continue unless Superior and Michigan are both chalked full of 1000 carniverous cold blooded reptiles. Dont you think? All those pythons they keep finding in Florida. No reason they shouldnt be able to traverse the entire North American continet eating every single other creature man or beast smaller than they are

CeeCee said...

That minister(?-giving him the benefit of the doubt)is evidence that we must do everything to create a better environment because he and others who believe our environment is unaffected by our deeds, are not getting enough oxygen for their brains to function properly.

Cuddles said...

When there is a true liberal in the White House....

When people are flocking to night clubs to hear live jazz....

When the Cleveland Indians win the World Series...

When pot is legal for adults to smoke...

I will become a believer!

Anonymous said...

Looks like Israel will start it if nothing else works. I found this yesterday.

"Meanwhile, on Sunday the Kuwaiti daily al-Siyassah reported that the Gulf states of Oman and the UAE would allow Israel to use their airspace should the Jewish state decide to launch preemptive strikes against Iran. The report quoted European and Arab diplomats.

The newspaper also quoted a Pentagon official said saying that Turkey, Afghanistan and Pakistan would assist Israeli raids on Iran."

Israel Insider
Israel's daily newsmagazine

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Security/10773.htm

daniel said...

Hey, Bush has to cut aid an education for 4-5 years till 2012, but do the Waltons get the big tax cut every year so Bush has to X out different programs every time he does a tax cut?

web_geek said...

Dow tumbles after China selloff

U.S. stocks plunged today after stocks in China and Europe slumped and investors digested the news that Vice President Dick Cheney was the target of a Taliban suicide bombing attack in Afghanistan. Cheney wasn't hurt. The Dow was down more than 133 at one point. China's stocks fell 9 percent, the worst one-day selloff in a decade.

Terry said...

Sam is right about these right wingers plugging themselves into a talking point machine. I spend a lot of time on a fly fishing forum which has an off topic forum. A right winger on the sight was quick to post that same link by the Tennessee Policy group last night.

daniel said...

So not only is it uneven, but taxcutsd are, its puposefully meant to kill other programs.

Anonymous said...

Cuddles said...

February 27, 2007 7:48 AM


When Al Gore's mansion is solar-powered....

or John Edwards' is the "standard" for "BOTH Americas".

daniel said...

So over these last 6 years, and the next two, in none earned income, these real rich people will have been given, 100, 200, billion some may have a trillion dollars of US currency that was taxpayers dollars before Bush on his own decided to give all of the American peoples money to his friends.

Sunshine Jim said...

Bernie is such a good listen.

funniest part of this whole mess ia the people who are getting ripped off who support this currupt administration.

daniel said...

And the entire US assets combines are barely what, 20-30 trillion in value in comparrison to any one person of group of people controlling 1/20th or 1/30th the wealth of the total value of the entire United Staes and all of its holdings.

Reefer Jello said...

Cuddles, you are in for a long wait!

The Cleveland Indians will NEVER win the World Series!

Hi Jim!

Cat Chew said...

Really good segment with Sanders! Boy howdy, he cuts through the lies and crap fast!

Just in case anyone missed it:
U.S. economy leaving record numbers in severe poverty by Tony Pugh for McClatchy Newspapers.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya Reefer Jello!

coffee!
i need more coffee!

good posts upthread, cheney planning another 'control' war...

i'm working on a few projects

life is good

bibimimi troll'p said...

daniel;

i like the cut o' yer jib.

let's put all the social programs in the Great Lakes along with our kids to be eaten by cold-blooded reptiles, or Cheneys as I like to call 'em.

GBC said...

23 people dead thanks to a "surprise" Cheney visit.

Way to go, Cheney... We're winning! You betchya!

I hope you soiled yer shorts, ya friggin' asshat.

Adam said...

Hey guys check this out... http://www.conservapedia.com/

the global warming article is quite funny

http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming

the page takes a while to load, give it time.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya catchoo!

one step at a time.

Stevo said...

Be a lazy bastard like me, play the Wii for a few hours, then see how you feel the next day. *sore*

Anonymous said...

hey web geek,

market is starting to recover. one can only wonder how much impact that attack in afghanistan had on this...

Dave said...

Soooo, why did the BBC report that Buidling & collapsed about 20 minutes before it actually fell and while standing in a live shot of the building still standing behind the woman reporter?

It's about 14 minutes into this. You can look for it on Google but they keep removing it. But here is a link to the actual BBC archives, let's see how long before they censor it there as well.

http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/bbc200109111654-1736/V08591-16.mpg

(You may have to select and right click on the link and select the appropriate menue item to launch in a new window)

Here is devastating news that exposes the Media's cover up and in this case, shows how the BBC was just a little off on their timing when delivering this prepared story. So either the BBC is Psychic or they are LIARS too!

bibimimi troll'p said...

Gibson, there's a war on, moron.

daniel said...

I like to see a Foxnews pundit breaking down and finally admitting he intending on making his money by exploiting tits and ass.

Cat Chew said...

G'morning, Jim.
Mmmm, the miracle of coffee!
Later...

bibimimi troll'p said...

Fox News Porn Channel

That's frikkin' synergy!

daniel said...

Hey Sam...Jinx.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Big John Holmesgibson

Adam said...

Ps. I will take you at Wii boxing anytime. Bring it, any one, lets go.

daniel said...

Thats what they should be doing, is counting and keeping track of these instances. Id respect the media more if they were more, self policing.

dada said...

"what ever happened to Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs? too many people are scratching to get by and survive to take to the streets..."

You're talking about the middle class. Maslow's hierarchy only works if you're middle class or above.

~~~~~

"Maybe american's haven't hit rock bottom yet."

Ya, things have to get much worse for more people for any sustained protest of the kind they have in other countries to happen in America. But it could happen virtually overnight.

Sunshine Jim said...

these clips about media whores are the least interesting parts of the program.

waste of time really, on to issues and new thinking!

daniel said...

And Gibson was ripping off me doing my "Dont like people who are better than me" bit from Hartmans blog yesterday.

Anonymous said...

is conservapedia for real. i've tried to access it several times and all it does is fill up my cache and put me in a wait state.

GBC said...

Yes, Gibby. If caring about the war makes me a snob, then I'm a proud snob.

There IS a war on. Have you done your duty and gone shopping today, everyone?

daniel said...

Who act and think they are better than me. Someone who has an automatic they are better than you response. He stole that. That was mine.maybe not, but Im saying it is until then.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Gibson's a HATER

daniel said...

Im telling you . Remeber blogs from day or two before and often see your comments end up coming out of a Foxnews Pundits mouth.

Alice said...

Iraqis Reach an Accord on Oil Revenues

The Iraqi cabinet approved a draft of a law on Monday that would set guidelines for nationwide distribution of oil revenues and foreign investment in the immense oil industry.
...

Stevo said...

It's a sad state. I work at an NBC affiliate, and yesterday the producer chose the Anna Nicole bullshit as our lead national story while the Libby juror story was going on. "Keep your job, don't say anything."

smartcookienyc said...

Re: Estate tax

I wish the Senator or Sam had brought up a pro-business, pro-market reason against repeal of estate tax.

The purpose of the tax is to promote efficient use of capital resources -- that we don't just hand tons of productive capital to "idiot sons." Instead, it encourages those heirs to get off their pool-side butts and compete.

Sunshine Jim said...

really don't trust polling that much.

what i do see is people getting concerned that this is 'out of control'

i just point em at the information and ask em to make their own minds up.

Alice said...

Bush Fails Our Veterans

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17316437/site/newsweek/

After returning from Iraq in late 2005, Jonathan Schulze spent every day struggling not to fall apart. When a Department of Veterans Affairs clinic turned him away last month, he lost the battle. The 25-year-old Marine from Stewart, Minn., had told his parents that 16 men in his unit had died in two days of battle in Ramadi. At home, he was drinking hard to stave off the nightmares. Though he managed to get a job as a roofer, he was suffering flashbacks and panic attacks so intense that he couldn't concentrate on his work. Sometimes, he heard in his mind the haunting chants of the muezzin—the Muslim call to prayer that he'd heard many times in Iraq. Again and again, he'd relive the moments he was in a Humvee, manning the machine gun, but helpless to save his fellow Marines. "He'd be seeing them in his own mind, standing in front of him," says his stepmother, Marianne.
...

dada said...

"market is starting to recover."

Look how easily it can be sent tumbling. Just imagine what a more serious unforseen circumstance could do.

bibimimi troll'p said...

"Keep your job, don't say anything."

February 27, 2007 8:21 AM

I saw that mindset as early as the 80's. Get out yer kneepads if you wanna stay here. Dumb down, and stay down.

daniel said...

That smoker callers so stupid. Oh yeah, what about Nascar? What about Bar b Ques. Right wingers cook out and tail gate more than anyone on Earth. What about the volcanoes. And who farts more? Didnt some numbnuts right winger go on TV saying, bellowing the dino fart theory last week? Who farts more than big fat basterd steak eating right wingers like Fat basterd Lee Raymond

Dave said...

Errr, sorry. Now without typos...

Soooo, why did the BBC report that Buidling 7 collapsed about 20 minutes before it actually fell and while the woman reporter was standing in a live shot with the building still standing behind her? They refer to WTC7 as the Salomon Brothers building which it was also known as.

It's about 14 minutes into this 41 min clip. It's also been posted on Google Video but they keep removing it.

So here is a link to the actual BBC archives, let's see how long before they censor it there as well.

http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/bbc200109111654-1736/V08591-16.mpg

And here's a news article about it:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/270207trustanything.htm

(You may have to select and right click on the link and select the appropriate menue item to launch in a new window)

So here is devastating news that exposes the Media's cover up and in this case, shows how the BBC was just a little off on their timing when delivering this prepared story. So either the BBC is Psychic or they are LIARS too!

Stevo said...

That's basically it. Our station is owned by a company whose stock has basically tanked from day one. They are losing money left and right, and instead of fixing their problems by deflating the salaries made by the higher ups, they squeeze everything they can out of the station workers. Unionization is impossible here, because no one has the balls to join on. A former co-worker and I tried this a few years ago and failed miserably because everyone is so complacent.

Alice said...

Authorities are considering taking an 8-year-old boy who weighs 218 pounds into protective custody unless his mother improves his diet

cminca said...

Sam is right. There was a huge article in the LA Times this summer about how character actors can't make a living anymore because of the huge salaries demanded by big stars. One example showed that if Julia Roberts [any highly paid actor] accepted $19 million instead of $20 million for a role, the other actors would actually be able to make a living wage. Disgraceful.

daniel said...

I would feed the parents of a 215 lb. 8 year old to that kid to teach them a lesson not to do that to their kid

bibimimi troll'p said...

I'd like to see a picture of Tony Snow bruised with a couple teeth knocked out.

Does that make me a bad person?

Sunshine Jim said...

Dick Cheney in '91:

"For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire."

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10021.html

Alice said...

Wal-Mart to expand in China with stake in 101-store chain

bibimimi troll'p said...

:Who farts more than big fat basterd steak eating right wingers like Fat basterd Lee Raymond?"

February 27, 2007 8:26 AM

that was poetry...and art

Alice said...

The US Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal by a high school teacher from Arizona sentenced to 200 years in jail for possessing child pornography.

bibimimi troll'p said...

If anyone ever saw Lee Raymond naked, they'd turn to stone.

cminca said...

bibimimi troll'p said...
I'd like to see a picture of Tony Snow bruised with a couple teeth knocked out.

Does that make me a bad person?

February 27, 2007 8:32 AM

Tony Snow is a smug sociopathic prick who effortlessly lies to the public thinking he is too smart for people to notice. I really hat that guy.

Alice said...

Oh please...

http://www.itv.com/news/world_814782bdb389deb198c561fe2e088a12.html

Taliban: 'We were targeting Cheney'

GBC said...

18 Iraqi children killed by car bomb

The victims, all boys, were on soccer field in Ramadi

BAGHDAD - A car bomb exploded near a park west of Baghdad on Tuesday, killing at least 18 boys on a soccer field, police said.

The blast occurred in central Ramadi, a hotbed of the Sunni insurgency. The victims were aged 10 to 15, police said.

LINK

The Red Queen said...

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bush: 'I'm proud of foreign policy'

11.04, Tue Feb 27 2007

US President George W Bush has again defended his policy in Iraq during a private fundraising reception with the Republican Governors Association.

Mr Bush also re-issued his warning to Congress not to try to cut off funding for troops in Iraq or limit his military options.

He said: "I'm proud of our foreign policy and for the next two years, I will conduct it with all my soul, with all my might, because I believe it's in the best interests of the United States of America.

"Failure in Iraq would invite chaos, would embolden those who would do us harm again."

cminca said...

My friend's spouse is being deployed for 6 months to parts undiclosed, but wherever it is there must be an ocean or sea, because his particular job in the military is exclusive to underwater missions.

Uh - could it be Iran?

bibimimi troll'p said...

aw, christ.

H R!

(hopeless retard)

cminca said...

Ron said...
Hiya Sam and bloggers!


It's just amazing that anyone still pays attention to Dobson - or do they?

The answer to your question lies in Jesus Camp. A must see.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Lauren is so nice to HR.

That should go toward community service credit.

Lauren, you get some free misdemeanors, there.

cminca said...

What difference does it make, when what passes for journalism is almost exclusively filler to take up the space between the ads.

February 27, 2007 6:20 AM

Well put, Anon!

daniel said...

thanks. cool, its warmed up enough to get into the yard. Ill be in for a bit longer, then Ill be in and out the rest the day.

People say globe warming might be good. Thats cause they cant stand the winter...sure, but for the wrong reasons. Its not the factor of the season, which is a neccessary part of some ecosystems(the resting and shedding of old). But its the Calander shift of the colder weather patterns that are bothering people and the effect is lasting like a decade long dordrums. Remember the winter doldrums? Well its not in Winter cause the cold didnt come in November , move to a super snowy white Christmas December. Into a shitty January and then ah its warming up now. It was weird and warm in Nov, Dec in went down a little bit(Im speaking broadly on average, I know some people got snowed but its not the whole country in an even blanket like 20 years ago), then January all matter cold hells was unleashed into the beginning of this month and ow its warming. And people dont know if its secure. The ground hog always, ALWAYS sees his shadow, except once in every 6-8 yars for instance. Sounds stupid but over the years you tend to notice when that furry little fucker is going to doom us too more snow and grey skys with his little shpeel. So he didnt see it, we have El Nino and Nor Easters trying to set up. So its like Even when its now, and warming, we dont know if winter will ever end cause its like it never really started YET still happend! ...AAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH!!!!

So thats pretty weird....

GBC said...

French teenager becomes 4th victim of Saudi attack

RIYADH (Reuters) - A French teenager died from bullet wounds on Tuesday, bringing to four the number of victims from a militant attack in Saudi Arabia on a group of French tourists in which the males were singled out and shot.

The boy's father was among three French expatriates working in Saudi Arabia who were killed during a desert trip on Monday in what appeared to be the first attack by suspected al Qaeda militants on foreigners in three years.

A group of nine French nationals living in Riyadh had been visiting historic sites and camping in the desert in the scenic western region of the vast country.

An acquaintance who did not want to be named said the men were machine-gunned in front of the women and children in the group, confirming a report from a security source.

LINK

passiveconsumer said...

i really hat that guy too.

james said...

Breaking my heart.

Iran -- click pics for details

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alireza_parsi/show/



aka jbenet

cminca said...

CrunchyKnee said...
web_geek said...

Who is this dooshbag on the phone?


I believe his name is Dewey and he is Sam's token con-follower. He is a moron.

February 27, 2007 7:15 AM

An obvious Fox News sheeple.

james said...

and then this;

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/#

Before it's too late for Western Europe and the United States, which gave birth to the traditions of freedom and equality of rights for all that shine today as lights in the entire world, this must be stopped. Therefore Dhimmi Watch seeks to bring public attention to:

* The plight of the dhimmis, an immense but almost completely ignored ongoing scandal that continues in Muslim countries today;
* The plight of women under Sharia provisions, similar to conditions imposed on dhimmis, in the denial of equal rights and dignity;
* Slavery in Islamic lands, which continues today, justified by Sharia-'s dhimmi codes;
* The integral role of jihad and dhimmitude ideology in global terrorism today;
* The license that academic and journalistic whitewashes of dhimmitude gives to radical jihadist enemies of human rights for all.

bibimimi troll'p said...

what passes for journalism is almost exclusively filler to take up the space between the ads.

February 27, 2007 6:20 AM

like the free porn they used to show overnite in Philly

james said...

an interesting month - Oct 2004

an interesting selection

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/2004_10.php

==

got headache ... can't stop using my eyes

bibimimi troll'p said...

passiveconsumer said...
i really hat that guy too.

February 27, 2007 8:45 AM

pull that hat over his eyes and kick his ass in the Bird Island canal!!

JA!

cminca said...

bibimimi troll'p said...
Fox News Porn Channel

That's frikkin' synergy!

February 27, 2007 8:13 AM

It was done on the Simpsons, one of those episodes that speculates on the future. Marge rolls over next to Homer and says, "Fox became a hard core porn channel so gradually, I barely noticed."

Anonymous said...

that 200 year sentence for the child porn seems a little excessive as nasty as the crime is. reminds me of when simple marijuana possession would get you life in texas.

isn't there a place in asia where they execute you first and ask questions later?

daniel said...

It was done on the Simpsons, one of those episodes that speculates on the future. Marge rolls over next to Homer and says, "Fox became a hard core porn channel so gradually, I barely noticed."

Ok, now thats funny.

GBC said...

From DU:

My God, how the Bush Administration must hate this man. Keith hands 'Dr' Rice her ass with this one.

LINK

Try using 'the Google' Condi!

daniel said...

I didnt see that, But in Idiocracy,a similer fate

bibimimi troll'p said...

Marge rolls over next to Homer and says, "Fox became a hard core porn channel so gradually, I barely noticed."

WOO_HOO!

bibimimi troll'p said...

up next:

Fox and Friends Clusterf**k

followed by:

Hannity & Cooz

later:

The BIG HARD Story with John "JunkintheTrunk" Gibson

Sunshine Jim said...

beauty spring day here!

ummm, this is feb right?

GBC said...

2 Army units will forgo desert training

WASHINGTON - Rushed by President Bush's decision to reinforce Baghdad with thousands more U.S. troops, two Army combat brigades are skipping their usual session at the Army's premier training range in California and instead are making final preparations at their home bases.

Some in Congress and others outside the Army are beginning to question the switch, which is not widely known. They wonder whether it means the Army is cutting corners in preparing soldiers for combat, since they are forgoing training in a desert setting that was designed specially to prepare them for the challenges of Iraq.

LINK

GBC said...

Iranian Scholars Denounce Conference That Denied Holocaust

TEHRAN, Feb. 26 — A group of Iranian academics, writers and artists has denounced the Holocaust conference held in Tehran late last year, calling it a move that endangered peace and hurt the reputation of Iranian academics.

The Iranian government organized a two-day gathering in December, billed it as a legitimate conference on the historical record and invited notorious Holocaust deniers and white supremacists from around the world. Among those from the United States was the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.

LINK

bibimimi troll'p said...

Thom Hartmann HAS to give me a break with the schlock and country!

Alice said...

* Chalmers Johnson: ³Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic" *

In his new book, CIA analyst, distinguished scholar, and best-selling author Chalmers Johnson argues that US military and economic overreach may actually lead to the nation's collapse as a constitutional republic. It's the last volume in his Blowback trilogy, following the best-selling "Blowback" and "The Sorrows of Empire." In those two, Johnson argued American clandestine and military activity has led to un-intended, but direct disaster here in the United States.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/27/1454229

dada said...

"too many people are scratching to get by and survive to take to the streets..."

Still thinking about this. I would say that many middle class people are scratching to get by and survive, leaving no time for the kind of organization that leads to significant political pressure for social change. But enough middle class lose their shirts, and that's when you'll see them take to the streets.

There's a happy medium... you want to keep them struggling, but not too poor.

CrunchyKnee said...

bibimimi troll'p said...

Thom Hartmann HAS to give me a break with the schlock and country!

February 27, 2007 9:35 AM


Maybe that is what he is into? If he is into it, then that is more refreshing than some fool like Jaba the Schultz using Guns and Roses for his music. Like Schultz would know anything done by a rock band.

Just like Franken always played the Dead, because that is what he liked...maybe Thom is doing the same?

bibimimi troll'p said...

crunchyknee (have one of those too) said:
"Just like Franken always played the Dead, because that is what he liked...maybe Thom is doing the same?"

February 27, 2007 9:50 AM


country gives me the creeps, is all

bibimimi troll'p said...

condi 'oil-colored'?

ouch.

(i grew up in country music terROTory. i no likey. make me think NASCAR redneck is about)

notadittohead said...

Heard Limbaugh at lunch....

Rush LAUGHING at the inability of the Democrats "pushing back" a vote on refuting the Authorization to go into Iraq.

Can't blame the idiot...so far Reid and Pelosi are gutless wonders.

braamer said...

Yesterday Maurice, I believe, made the point that it is the responsibility of Americans, not to seek out objective information, but act on that information once we know it. It is our responsibility to act. Complacency, carelessness, and the resulting silence is in effect the condoning of this administration’s goal of perpetual warfare.
Instead, join the Project: http://vcnv.org/project/the-occupation-project

Alice said...

Take back america...do the Happy Dance all over their asses...

Alice said...

http://www.fort90.com/journal/?p=205

Pictures of Mario and other Nintendo 8-bit Artwork - AMAZING

james said...

It all hangs on Fitzgerald eh ?

no need to read (I liked the 'Nobody has been charged' bit)

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2735620120070227

Nobody has been charged with intentionally identifying Plame, the wife of former ambassador Joseph Wilson.

james said...

eya sj

how'd the bread come out ?

dada said...

The US psychological torture system is finally on trial

America has deliberately driven hundreds, perhaps thousands, of prisoners insane. Now it is being held to account in a Miami court

Naomi Klein Friday February 23, 2007 The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2019341,00.html

bibimimi troll'p said...

this STILL makes me smile:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gr5tx0lcyQc

dada said...

http://www.fort90.com/journal/?p=205

Pictures of Mario and other Nintendo 8-bit Artwork - AMAZING

~~~~~~

Nice!

james said...

good signs down under

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/02/22/18367259.php

dada said...

Great pics over on the main page of the regular blog. Carnac the Magnificent and the nintendo action pad. Fun.

Funny, I just used a pic of old Carnac in the "John Zorn's Magical Mystery Tour" page on the uncyclopedia.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/John_Zorn%27s_Magical_Mystery_Tour

We have pictures, but haven't come up with the story yet.

bibimimi troll'p said...

Ashcroft Holding Ethically Questionable Pizza Luncheon


http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002630.php

I gotta ask...did u ever think you'd evr hear those words EVER written or spoken by ANYONE ANYWHERE?

bibimimi troll'p said...

dada

(re:Carnac)

"Ozzie's kid, a rolling stone, and the prince of darkness"

passiveconsumer said...

i think the ethically corrupt part is the fact that he's trying to sell pizza as a luncheon.

thats like saying...

chicken wing luncheon or
falafal luncheon.

I guess pizza is probably considered an ethnic food by Ashy boy tho'.

pbtrue1 said...

The AAR site has not been acting right for a couple weeks.

Some one needs to DX the server and software.

james said...

dick cheney-- truer words.... 4min 7 sec

[see if that 'link' thing works]

LINK

tom said...

Sam, just as you finished discussing Dewey"s call about Al Gore's "outrageous" electric bill I immediately switched over to Rush to hear the topic for the day.

He was just segueing from a discussion of Gore's "mansion" to how earth-friendly the idiot's ranch house is at Crawford.

Of course he supplied no specifics on it, just raved about how far ahead of the curve The Shrub was.

Funny how we never hear anything from the White House about it, isn't it. Tom

Dar (bluecat) said...

Hey Sam,

Obama gave a great speech in Austin. He wants our troops to start coming home MAY of THIS YEAR...he wants an end to this war and he is not afraid to say it!

I hope you go to see him when he comes to New York in March. I think you will be inspired. I was supporting Gore but I read Obama's books and I am convinced he can change this country for the better. He even took a jab at the oil companies and he says our country can switch to alternative fuels like Brazil did.

I'd trust your a personal review...I hope you go listen to him.

Much Love

Dar in Bellingham

Anyone interested in tickets for either fund raising event with Barack Obama on March 9th in NYC at the Grand Hyatt now have an OFFICIAL contact that you can call or email....
Arthur Leopold (full time member Obama campaign staff )

arthurleopold@yahoo.com

212-593-0025

917-359-3920

Everyone in the NY metro area should want to be at one of the two events. They will be remembered as a major moment in the campaign when Barack proves New York does not belong to Hillary !

(you can click on my name to go listen to the Austim Speech if you want)

Dar (bluecat) said...

I hope you get your blog fixed soon! That is the other thing Obama talks about...getting everyone connected to the net.

He has a really nice blog set up now. It is about time! I hated his old blog.

So...I have read on an Iraqi site that Iran already controls southern Iraq has anyone else read any more info on this?

Anonymous said...

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Air_America

vandalized since originally introduced to Sederites, but still poking Sam, Randi, and the "affiliates"

Anonymous said...

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Air_America

vandalized since originally introduced to Sederites, but still poking Sam, Randi, and the "affiliates"

i said...

Happy Tuesday my foot. The Dow is down 415 points. The S&P 500 is down 50 points.

It started in Shanghai, and I guess this means that the air is finally being let out of the China bubble.

Sunshine said...

eya Dar!

just taking a break.

"james said...
eya sj

how'd the bread come out ? "

pretty good, just got another recipe from MomO to try.

m the a-c said...

Alice said...
* Chalmers Johnson: ³Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic" *

In his new book, CIA analyst, distinguished scholar, and best-selling author Chalmers Johnson argues that US military and economic overreach may actually lead to the nation's collapse as a constitutional republic. It's the last volume in his Blowback trilogy, following the best-selling "Blowback" and "The Sorrows of Empire." In those two, Johnson argued American clandestine and military activity has led to un-intended, but direct disaster here in the United States.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/27/1454229

February 27, 2007 9:36 AM


I missed Seder's interview with him.

He was "Why We Fight's" brightest and most informative interviewee-- with all due respect to Karen Kwiatkowski, who was great as well.

m the a-c said...

from Amazon.com:

"..Johnson's is a biting, often effective indictment of some ugly and troubling features of America's foreign policy and domestic politics. But his doom-laden trope of empire ("the capacity for things to get worse is limitless.... the American republic may be coming to its end") seems overstated. With Bush a lame duck, not a Caesar, and his military adventures repudiated by the electorate, the Republic seems more robust than Johnson allows."

I couldn't disagree more. Listen to frontrunners McCain and H. Clinton's speeches about Iraq. They are basically much more intelligent versions of monkey-man.

This is why I say everyone should have enjoyed the Oscars and not whined about the need for another politician to introduce "a new way forward for victory of freedom" or whatever nonsensical, tortured b.s. the morons phrase it as.

Geraldo said...

Good evening!

I'm speaking to you today from just inside Anna Nicole Smith's rotting, unburied corpse!

toniD said...

Afternoon all! Just home from work.

Step by step the blog is getting better. Now if he would only change the comments to what I have on my blog it would be perfect!

Did you see that market today? Negative 416 pts on the Dow. I knew this would happen. They are saying a correction.

Catharine, where are you girl???

james said...

LINKbr/>
South Korean sergeant Yoon Jang-ho poses in this undated family handout picture taken in Afghanistan and released by his mother Lee Chang-hee in Seoul February 27, 2007. Sergeant Yoon was among those killed in a suicide bomb attack outside a U.S. military base in Afghanistan where Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting, South Korea's Defence Ministry said on Tuesday. REUTERS/Handout

Catharine said...

toniD said...

Afternoon all! Just home from work.

Step by step the blog is getting better. Now if he would only change the comments to what I have on my blog it would be perfect!

Did you see that market today? Negative 416 pts on the Dow. I knew this would happen. They are saying a correction.

Catharine, where are you girl???

February 27, 2007 1:33 PM

Ha!!

I just turned it on to see that twitchy bitch Larry Kudlow saying it's a "market correction".

Double Ha!

They are all sweatin' it because, no matter how you slice it it's not good news for broker/dealers.

I guarantee you that twitchy bitchy Larry will die in a sleazy hotel room waitin' for his pimp one day.

Catharine said...

It's the biggest drop since the Monday after 9/11!

And these sweaty losers are saying it's a market correction. And then shortly after that time worn euphemism, did you notice they said it will drop further?

They said that part kinda quietly.

And the good news is... it's actually Cheney's fault!

The financial world has lost confidence in America.. or at least the part that really matters ... their Fiduciary Trust!

Buy China.

Susan Underhill said...

Has anyone seen my script?

Catharine said...

Buy gold.

toniD said...

Hey Catharine!

Yesterday Greenspan said there might be a recession by the end of the year...and it spooked all the markets.

You can't blame just one thing on this drop!!

It's not just a correction.

Catharine said...

That wacky Jim Kramer was right for once ... buy gold stocks ... FOREIGN gold stocks.

Simply by the law of averages Jim is right every once in a while.

dada said...

"http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Air_America

vandalized since originally introduced to Sederites, but still poking Sam, Randi, and the "affiliates"

~~~~~~~~~

I haven't had a chance to really work on that page, but I have some great ideas lined up... just wait, when I'm done with it, you wont even recognize it.

Oh, and thanks for the introduction, Mr. Coward. *smiles*

Catharine said...

You can't blame just one thing on this drop!!

It's not just a correction.

February 27, 2007 2:29 PM

True. But I like blaming Cheney. He has a lot to do with it.

Ha!

Halliburton's stock dropped 3.7% today. I think they announced a split yesterday, however ... I'll have to check... nice timing if they did ... a little too nice.

i said...

They are all sweatin' it because, no matter how you slice it it's not good news for broker/dealers.

I was completely turned off by Fox News Channel when Brenda Buttner kept yapping about the 'Kerry Crash', which would happen if John Kerry was elected.

Well welcome to the Dubya Depression. So what is going to happen to all that US debt to China when China is going to go through it's own downturn? They're letting the steam out of the Chinese markets right now.

Norka said...

I am exactly 1035 feet above sea level.

Catharine said...

Hey Toni .. was it Greenspan or Bernanke who said that? If it was Greenspan, shouldn't he be keeping his mouth shut?

toniD said...

Hey Dada!

I can't wait! Heh!

These trolls must be second or third string. They sound foolish rather than threatening. And they yell alot. Must be the Limbaush syndrome!

dada said...

Bibi said:

"Ozzie's kid, a rolling stone, and the prince of darkness"

hmm... can't seem to figure it out off the top of my head.

Where's Crank Bait when you need him?

Catharine said...

U.S. Stocks Plunge in Global Rout; Dow, S&P 500 Erase '07 Gains

By Eric Martin

Feb. 27 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks plunged, wiping out about $600 billion in market value and erasing all of 2007's gains, after a selloff in China spread globally and sparked the biggest rout in four years.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell as much as 546 points, the most since the first trading day after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. All but two companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index declined.

``This is a fairly violent selloff,'' said Russ Koesterich, a portfolio manager at Barclays Global Investors in San Francisco, which has $1.7 trillion in assets.

The worldwide tumble was sparked by China's plan to clamp down on illegal stock market investments. Chinese stocks slumped the most in a decade, while Europe's Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index dropped 3 percent and emerging markets sank. Russian shares slid from an all-time high; Brazil's Bovespa Index lost 6.6 percent.

U.S. Treasuries rose on increased demand for debt securities amid the worldwide equity slump and signs of a slowing economy after durable-goods orders fell more than forecast in January.

The plunge in China ``exposed the fact that there are problems developing,'' said Jim Rogers, who co-founded the Quantum hedge fund with George Soros in the 1970s. ``When you have major stock declines, they always start in marginal countries, sectors and companies.''

The Dow average sank 416.02, or 3.3 percent, to 12,216.24. The S&P 500 retreated 50.33, or 3.5 percent, to 1399.04. The Nasdaq Composite Index dropped 96.66, or 3.9 percent, to 2407.86.

Catharine said...

Technical Problems

With an hour left before the close of exchanges, trading terminals showed the Dow average dropped 178 points in a single minute. Dow Jones & Co., which oversees the measure, later attributed the decline to a technical problems with its data servers.

At one point, losses in the Dow and S&P 500 were the steepest since September 2002, a month before the last bear market ended. By the close, they posted their biggest declines since March 2003. For the Nasdaq, it marked the worst one-day performance since December 2002.

The Dow average today ended its longest streak in at least a century without a one-day drop of at least 2 percent, according to data compiled by Birinyi Associates Inc. and Bloomberg News. The last time the Dow fell that much was May 19, 2003, according to Birinyi.

China's government approved a special task force to clamp down on illegal share offerings and investments with borrowed money after indexes climbed to records. The Shanghai and Shenzhen 300 Index dropped 9.2 percent, wiping out $107.8 billion from a stock market that doubled in the past year.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aAYgm7BUwSaI&refer=home

Catharine said...

I just want to highlight this:

``When you have major stock declines, they always start in marginal countries, sectors and companies.''

Catharine said...

Today's plunge also comes on the heels of a record-breaking U.S. rally, fueled in part by the two biggest leveraged buyouts in history. TXU Corp. yesterday agreed to be acquired by private equity firms for $45 billion. Equity Office Properties Trust was sold to Blackstone Group LP for $39 billion on Feb. 7. The Dow average closed at an all-time high last week, while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq reached six-year highs.

``Things just got a little overheated in the U.S. investment scene and it needs to calm down a little bit,'' said John Kattar, who oversees $1.8 billion as chief investment officer at Eastern Investment Advisors in Boston. ``A lot of the frothiness of the private equity deals should subside now.''

Catharine said...

although I wouldn't necessarily call China a "marginal" country ... anymore.

toniD said...

Catharine said...
Hey Toni .. was it Greenspan or Bernanke who said that? If it was Greenspan, shouldn't he be keeping his mouth shut?

---------
It was Greenspan! Check out my blog. I have the article:

http://abramoffjournal.blogspot.com/2007/02/one-day-after-greenspan-said-possible.html

"Investors were also spooked by comments Monday from former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who said a recession in the U.S. was "possible" later this year."

Catharine said...

``A lot of the frothiness of the private equity deals should subside now.''

Hahaha!

This is the equivalent of "it's just a correction" bullshit.

Hahaha!


No shit, Sherlock

Catharine said...

toniD said...


It was Greenspan! Check out my blog. I have the article:

***

Hey, did I ever tell you how great you are?!

You're great!

Catharine said...

A measure of raw-materials producers slumped 4.2 percent for the worst performance among 10 industry groups in the S&P 500 on concern China's appetite for imported goods will wane at a time when slower manufacturing restrains U.S. growth.

Alcoa Inc., the world's biggest aluminum producer, tumbled $1.57 to $33.79. China is the leading consumer of the metal. Copper miner Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. fell $6.17 to $55.75 on expectations of decreased demand from China, also the biggest user of that metal. The stock's 10 percent retreat was the sharpest in the S&P 500.

Caterpillar Inc., the largest maker of earthmoving equipment, fell $2.43 to $64.83.

***

Weren't we all saying this a while ago?!

That's what happens when you don't listen.

toniD said...

Catharine said....
Hey, did I ever tell you how great you are?!

You're great!

Well thank you very much, but you are too! That's why I called for you on this. I knew you'd have more "Inside" info;)

james said...

Anonymous said... February 27, 2007 6:20 AM

Americans' refusal to look in the mirror presages our own demise

reference title ; No One Here Gets Out Alive

look in the mirror and choose a nick Anonymous : )

and not one Jim Morison ref in the article

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