Sunday, May 6, 2007

SEDER on SUNDAYS

Not this one. Not the next. Debut on the 20th.

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air-ono said...

[my fantasy]

[it takes place on cranky's porch]

[he's having a heated exchange with war-dog]

[i'm in the spare room making love to meg]

[we hear a gun being fired... war-dog is dead]

"fuck it, meg"

[we contine making love]

air-ono said...

(lmao)
might go watch tcm channel, and leave you good folk alone

@ 9:15 it's showing "bad men of missouri"

[small world y'all]

air-ono said...

booze and sleepers
oh, what a combo

toniD said...

Republican Fmr Presidential Families Consider Leaving GOP
Newsweek | Michael Hirsh | May 6, 2007 09:57 AM

Susan Eisenhower is an accomplished professional, the president of an international consulting firm. She also happens to be Ike's granddaughter--and in that role, she's the humble torchbearer for moderate "Eisenhower Republicans." Increasingly, however, she says that the partisanship and free spending of the Bush presidency--and the takeover of the party by single-issue voters, especially pro-lifers--is driving these pragmatic, fiscally conservative voters out of the GOP. Eisenhower says she could vote Democratic in 2008, but she's still intent on saving her party. "I made a pact with a number of people," she tells NEWSWEEK. "I said, 'Please don't leave the party without calling me first.' For a while, there weren't too many calls. And then suddenly, there was a flurry of them. I found myself watching them slip away one by one."

LINK

air-ono said...

so i'll leave you in the immortal words of muddy

I been drinkin' gin like never before
I feel so good, I want you to know
One more drink, I wish you would
I takes a whole lotta lovin' to make me feel good

(ciao)

Crank Bait said...

--War Dog Writes To Osama---

Dear O.B.L.,

I hate you and your madrases and stuff but since you are already a really bad guy, I have a request.

Could you, please, pretty please, commit a terrorist act on U.S. soil before the next election cycle? It would be extra-special if you would use Iranian nationalists, preferably diplomats. They should be irradiated, too, whether they succeed or not.

You see, few Americans believe that the U.S. should expend its treasury and its resource of young people and its history of human rights in an effort to protect itself from fundamentalist ragheads such as yourself. (Go figure.) They need a nudge and you are the guy who can provide it.

Kansas City or anywhere upwind would be a bad choice. I'm just saying. I mean, there's no sense in making this personal. I have a retirement to enjoy. I'm thinking that Miami or San Diego would be good. Or Hawaii. Or Guam. Guam would be good. I don't plan to be anywhere near Guam.

If you can't see your way clear to whacking a few Americans before our next election cycle, you owe it to me to wax San Francisco while a Democrat is in the White House. It's only fair. You hit New York under Bush. We'll call it even-steven.

Can't live with you or without you,

War Dog

War Dog said...

Crank Bait said...
--War Dog Writes To Osama---

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Now that is funnier...

The San Fran bit is clever..

Still...

The left is gonna be hung out there for 18 months.....

It's a bet I don't want..

Unknown said...

In case anyone's missed this one:

Bush and the Generals
Michael C. Desch
From Foreign Affairs

It is no secret that the relationship between the U.S. military and civilians in the Bush administration has deteriorated markedly since the start of the Iraq war. In 2006, according to a Military Times poll, almost 60 percent of servicemen and servicewomen did not believe that civilians in the Pentagon had their "best interests at heart."

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501faessay86309/michael-c-desch/bush-and-the-generals.html

...instead of asking for more troops, as they did in the run-up to the war, many senior commanders in Iraq began to argue that the United States needed to lower its profile and reduce its footprint. Less than 40 percent of troops supported an increase in force levels, the Military Times found. General John Abizaid, the current head of Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee in November that he did "not believe that more American troops right now is the solution to the problem" in Iraq. In response to prodding from Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.), Abizaid explained that he had "met with every division commander, General [George] Casey, the corps commander, General [Martin] Dempsey [head of the Multi-National Security Transition Command in Iraq]. ... And I said, 'In your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq?' And they all said no."

++++++

Those wide-eyed crazy talking surrender monkey Generals.

Crank Bait said...

--Bait Edits The Fantasy--
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air-ono said...
[my fantasy]
[it takes place on cranky's porch]
[he's having a heated exchange with war-dog]
[i'm in the spare room making love to meg]
[we hear a gun being fired... (someone) is dead]
(I hear more gunfire...someone else is dead)
(Bait pets Meg's cat, sneezes. Meg offers a tissue.)
May 6, 2007 7:08 PM
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This, for some reason, reminds me of an SNL "Best Of" joke from the SNL news desk. It is a joke that rates in my "Too-Fucking-Perfect" category.

A cat, suffering from bad hips, underwent a $25,000 hip replacement. It proved to be only $25,000 more costly than the usual total-cat replacement.

Crank Bait said...

Now that is funnier...
May 6, 2007 7:36 PM
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Nine out of ten Neocons agree that I'm not funny.

Anonymous said...

A hidden announcement:
http://www.airamerica.com/node/3623

Had to go to the press link on the AAR homepage.
(I wish they'd change that shitty interface)

Looking forward to four hours of Pops a day!

Looks like the Greens bought the network so they could get behind the mic themselves.

I guess On The Real and Steve Earl are gone, eh?

Some of the changes are nice, but at the same time, the whole of the network seems to be integrating more and more into the mainstream Borg.

Bob26003 said...

France is Better than the US!!!!!!

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=25665

Apparently, much of the US and British press are just incapable of acknowledging the existence of any other perspective on the French economy except maybe to deplore their delusions and Gallic pride. But as many serious problems as the country has, the image of a France in crisis and a superior US-British model is the product of a very partial selection of economic and social data.

Virtually all indicators of living standards put France ahead of Britain and the US. Infant mortality in France is 4.26 per 1,000 live births (compared to 5.16 in the UK – greater than the EU average of 5.1 and 6.5 in the USA). Life expectancy in France is 79.6 years – compared with 78.38 for the British and 77.71 for the US. In UNICEF’s assessment of the well-being of children and young people in developed countries, France did not fare especially well – but by some considerable margin, Britain ranked rock bottom, just below, of course, the United States.

Poverty in France has fallen by 60% in the last thirty years – a staggering contrast with the US and Britain, where it has risen substantially since the 1970s, with limited periods of decline during the Clinton administration and Blair governments. 6.1% of the French population lived in poverty in 2001 – in the US it is rarely less than twice that, and usually more. That is without considering the fact that France has a stricter definition of poverty than the US.

The US has the worst level of hardship for its poorest of any developed country. Except Britain, where poverty exceeds that of its former colony, Ireland, and where the child poverty beats the competition. The dynamic economy of the city of London, so celebrated on both sides of the Atlantic and by TIME’s French entrepreneurs has a majority of its minors living below the poverty line:

“Forty-one per cent of children in Greater London are in poverty, compared with 31% nationally and 37% in the north-east. This is largely due to unparalleled levels of poverty in inner London: 53% of children in inner London are living in income poverty.”

French babies survive more often than ours, they go on to live longer lives, with greater happiness and freedom from material hardship. Is this worth a mention, at least somewhere in any of the coverage of France in the Anglo-American press? The fact that these figures are almost always ignored says a lot about the priorities of those who stand in judgment of France and indeed, say they pity it.

How about instead of mocking France from across the Channel and the Atlantic, we take time to consider those abysmal social stats of ours? Instead of laughing at the French, we might just feel a twinge of embarrassment and shame. We might also spot a few answers to our pundits’ eternal conundrum of why so much of the French population doesn’t want the changes we recommend.

Famously, French workers do a 35-hour week which remains popular because it gives workers the chance to spend time with their families and generally enjoy life outside of the workplace. Newsweek’s International Editor Fareed Zakaria - an often more insightful commentator - describes “the dreary work environment in French companies” while an 'Economist' editorial sees “a chilling lack of ambition” in the fact that most young people in France want a secure job for life. Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but another view of what makes life dreary for American and British workers, and has a chilling effect on their families, is the fact that they work more hours than all their counterparts in the developed world. Zakaria wrote:

“The average Frenchman works 24 percent fewer hours than in 1970. The average American, by contrast, works 20 percent more.”

Crank Bait said...

I am reminded of the Sidney Morning Herald headline regarding the Wolfowitz snafu that included a construct that I wish I had invented:

Neoconcubine.

Anonymous said...

It was me that just fottid,
in case that goddamn Boston
mayor starts askin'!

Sunshine Jim said...

evening gang!

tanks for digging that release out bloppo.

Sunshine Jim said...

Neoconcubine.

Ha!

that is a good'un!

"Sam Seder’s new show, Seder on Sunday, airing Sundays, 4-7pm ET, will recap and review the Sunday morning political talkfests largely from the view of bloggers and the blogosphere -- hence the program will be the first of its kind to look at the networks from the netroots."


"will recap and review the Sunday morning political talkfests largely from the view of bloggers and the blogosphere"

Kos and Bill get some air time looks like.

wonder what we'll be able to do with the new blog engine?

am hoping we can do some fairly serious archiving by topic.

been a real workout continually explaining why we think the neos wanna kill off what's left of the US.

Sunshine Jim said...

WHOA fat tony!

that's a room clearer!

i caught a whiff all the way over here!

i was looking at jax before i noticed your post...

i wondered why he had that 'who me?' look on his yubb.

Anonymous said...

yo leftwing mama said...
War Dog!

You have a little piece of poop on your nose!

You've been sniffing our
asses again....

you naughty doggie you!

May 6, 2007 11:27 AM

Crank Bait said...

fat tony said...
It was me that just fottid,
in case that goddamn Boston
mayor starts askin'!
May 6, 2007 8:21 PM
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Not to worry. Parmigiano and cooked cabbage have their own distincty signatures.

Anonymous said...

WAR DOG...Get a life. You're so lonely that you need to do this. Your blog entries say more about YOU than what you're trying to say. I hope you do better some day... :D

Crank Bait said...

Sunny J,

I visited this year's tiny-town car show. Not bad at all. Here is a link to last year's (and you can find some other fun stuff on this site, too. The Oldsmobile link is a goodie).

Link

ssamalin said...

Come back Sam!

Anonymous said...

War Dog! I looked on this thread, and you've been blogging entries for the past 10 freaking hours. Are you Gollum, and live in a cave...never seeing light other than your monitor screen??? Pretty sad.

War Dog said...

Anonymous said...
WAR DOG...Get a life. You're so lonely that you need to do this. Your blog entries say more about YOU than what you're trying to say. I hope you do better some day... :D

May 6, 2007 8:56 PM


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Thank for the advice..

Like every else here...

I have been here 3 years...

First show to last...

I Blog while I work...

But I will think about you while on vacation next week..

But because you asked I will try to post from Branson....

I would not want you to miss anything while I am away...

WIFI here I come..!!!

Anonymous said...

War Dog...I hope you have friends in Branson, so you don't have to bother posting... :D

War Dog said...

Anonymous said...
War Dog! I looked on this thread, and you've been blogging entries for the past 10 freaking hours. Are you Gollum, and live in a cave...never seeing light other than your monitor screen??? Pretty sad.

May 6, 2007 9:00 PM

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3 years and 10 hours...

But I am bringing out film while I blog...

I made $300.00 today while blogging...

I hope you are working too..!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey War Dog...I don't have to work on Sundays. And I'm not a blog-aholic either.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is a "nic"? The only time I have posted on a blog was the day after Seder announced he was leaving? Please explain???

War Dog said...

My nic is War Dog...

Your nic is anonymous...

You have been here forever too..!!!

Anonymous said...

what is a "nic"?

Anonymous said...

you mean like in "nickname"???

Anonymous said...

If so...then of course, "anonymous" has been around forever...but it hasn't been me!

Crank Bait said...

Anonymous said...
What the hell is a "nic"?
May 6, 2007 9:11
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It's like shaving in Paris Hilton's speeding Bentley and then you both go down, only different.

Sunshine Jim said...

"I visited this year's tiny-town car show"

Tanks crnkr!

great site, pix and links!

had to unglue myself to come back here.

Anonymous said...

Crank Bait...now that sounds real scary!

Anonymous said...

Okay...I'll have empathy for War Dog...po tang!

Sunshine Jim said...

eya eep!

good to read ya!

Whassup with you m'dear?

Sunshine Jim said...

Crank Bait...now that sounds real scary!""

ya!

he is scary!

we've been able

to tease him about

it for the last three years!

Anonymous said...

Then he is obviously a masochist.

Anonymous said...

I don't know how to blog, so I don't know how to respond to any particular comment...just trying this out, because I miss Sam Seder!

Crank Bait said...

Anonymous said...
I don't know how to blog, so I don't know how to respond to any particular comment...just trying this out, because I miss Sam Seder!
May 6, 2007 9:25 PM
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If you would like to start at the bottom and then work your way up, try this:

"What are you? Some kind of fuckin' moron?"

It seems to be the rite of initiation.

War Dog said...

Anonymous said...
I don't know how to blog, so I don't know how to respond to any particular comment...just trying this out, because I miss Sam Seder!

May 6, 2007 9:25 PM

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Step 1.

Click on other and type something in for a nic so that you are not just another bonehead...

Step 2.

Do some Crazy Talk..

And your in..

Anonymous said...

Is this what you mean???

Anonymous said...

How do I refer to someone else I am responding to???

Anonymous said...

I don't think I'm computer nerdy enough to do this...Sorry to bother you guys.

Anonymous said...

Okay...Thanks... I think...

Anonymous said...

Do any of you have any idea how many people really blog? I've checked on Sam's blog several times, and see pretty much the same names...

Sunshine Jim said...

eya Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT

welcome to the bloggie!

most of what you post without addressing a specific person will be assumed to be part of the stream of conciousness.

Crank Bait said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Okay...Thanks... I think...
May 6, 2007 9:44 PM
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This might not encourage you, but here goes.

In my Internet interaction infancy, I didn't know how to cut and paste, but I knew that paste was irresistibly tasty, so I persevered. (Cutting came later.)

Anonymous said...

Crank Bait said...
Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Okay...Thanks... I think...
May 6, 2007 9:44 PM
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This might not encourage you, but here goes.

In my Internet interaction infancy, I didn't know how to cut and paste, but I knew that paste was irresistibly tasty, so I persevered. (Cutting came later.)
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This just seems like a lot of work for something that could be much simpler...? I guess I was assuming that there were a lot of short-cuts I needed to learn... :D

Sunshine Jim said...

we have 336 regular posters

and a flock of nubie first posters during a good show.

we've had more but this blog has been FUBAR'd a buncha times for various reasons and we have to start from scratch (mostly) every time.

theres never been an effort to keep and increase regulars or do much 'enhancement' to the blog.

the new ones due out in bit according to sam.

Sunshine Jim said...

cutting?

i just got a plasma cutter so no probs for me.

crank bait uses a chisel and old marble remnants

Wardog uses toilet paper.

War Dog said...

we have 336 regular posters

and a flock of nubie first posters during a good show.

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hahahahahahahahahahaha...

336 people who have heard the show...!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Okay...that sounds cool...I'll try to keep up...and I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR SAM AGAIN! This past week has been TORTURE....and I just can't wait (yech) to hear Lionel.....

Anonymous said...

Hey War Dog...I'm truly curious...Why do you blog here???

Sunshine Jim said...

oh lionel will be a total disaster!

think of the most "liberal" and uninformed empty and half assed elmer fudd you ever heard and there ya are.

Cat Chew said...

There are only two bloggers.
You are one of them.
The other...
[Cue the music]

Anonymous said...

Yeah...I've been dreading it! It has felt sooo empty in the mornings. I tried to listen to Stephanie Miller, and she sounds like all fluff and little substance...Randi is way better.

Anonymous said...

Cat Chew said...
There are only two bloggers.
You are one of them.
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Bless you, Cat Chew...
I am very fond of white cats with blue eyes!

Sunshine Jim said...

War farts job is to kill the bloggie and interrupt every creative 'bit' we get going.

he frustrated and lonely and has a hard time hiding it now.

he's getting subverted hanging out here and is getting heat from the illuminati assholes because after three years of trying to be the disruptive center of attention he's now being mostly ignored.

we who try to love him as a ethical response to the hate he spews usually give him an ear scritch from time to time but usually you need to wash your hands immediately after.

he complains and whines but professional therapy costs too much and we do the best we can as volunteers of compassion.

War Dog said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Hey War Dog...I'm truly curious...Why do you blog here???


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I am reality and the truth detector...

(See Sunny's claim of 336 bloggers)

I am a Conservative Democrat...

(See Joe Lieberman)

Anonymous said...

Sunshine Jim...Well, I am a psychologist, so maybe we can help him???

Anonymous said...

A Show of Penises

Anonymous said...

Hey Jim!

I made one post and left the blog. How are you Sunshine? I hope all is well in Canada. You lucky man. I'm trying to talk my family in to moving to Canada.

War Dog said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Sunshine Jim...Well, I am a psychologist, so maybe we can help him???

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Hahahahahahaha...

Maybe...

But stay turned for Air-Ono..

He is a Homosexual Australian with Tourette syndrome and today he has signs of depression ...!

He may take more time..!!!

Anonymous said...

War Dog...

Always up for a challenge!!!

Sunshine Jim said...

that's right

deff twilight zonish!

i for example are a

mere fig newton

of your imagination.

rule #1 is there are no rules!

rule #2 is don't feed crankbait any straight lines

Crank Bait said...

Sunny J,

Among the 2006 Tiny Town Car Show photographs you will see a 1965 Mustang with six (count 'em, six) tail lights.

I walked up on this car from behind in the 2007 show. My first thought was, "What the fuck is this piece of shit?"

The Mustang has cheesy, rear-quarter panel scoops sporting chrome, refrigerator shelf grills. That's when it hit me.

The "custom" work is circa 1970 when the car was cheap and the artist was cheaper.

It is retro-schmaltz, shade-tree, junkyard, J.C. Whitney car art. When I understood it, I loved it.

Anonymous said...

This sounds way too kinky...What happens to the important issues that Sam Seder talks about???

Anonymous said...

how are your penises hung? honestly, suzy! said...

A Show of Penises

May 6, 2007 10:15 P.M.
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I'm well hung. I have a hard time tucking it in. I use duct tape.

Anonymous said...

Geez

Sunshine Jim said...

good! another Psych!

we collectively need therapy

but this is not a hustle for freebie head shrinking

feel free to not be a Psychologist while you are with us.

you can be anything you want here and say what you want as well though the sound system on the blog sucks.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya eep!

a good evening to ya lass.

ya, i'm delighted to be in the farming area here in BC even though i'm a "bloody yank".

Sunshine Jim said...

retro-schmaltz, shade-tree, junkyard, J.C. Whitney car art.""

with hardware store fasteners.

zinc plated and pop rivets.

custimization by the

proletariat! of

course you

loved it.

Anonymous said...

Jim,

speaking of Yank, did you hear that Christopher Hitchens is now an American citizen?

Unknown said...

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who led troops in Iraq, says, "The president of the United States is holding our soldiers hostage to his ego."

Retired Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who also led troops in Iraq, says, "The president vetoed our troops and the American people. His stubborn commitment to a failed strategy in Iraq is incomprehensible."

Anonymous said...

This is such a disrespect for Sam's incredible work, to be using this blog to talk about penises...no????

Sunshine Jim said...

OK.

"talk about more important issues"

first off, we shorten that 'Nic' to "nab". you all grab these ridiculously long handles at first.

and i always shorten them because i'm a shit typist.

next understand and respect the fact that this is thread #4513 and i've read every comment on every one of them as my own psy/soc project.

we have discussed everything under AND over the sun and i'm willing to do it again.

i am a zen buddhist logger fisherman master craftman and lazy.

where would you like to start?

i'm currently interested in the varying levels of reality people embrace and determined to find a way to take all these various levels and make 'sense' of them for the average poorly informed person willing to do something about this entire catastrophe.

Sunshine Jim said...

well it's more hypocritical to not talk about penises right?

sorta the point of the artists site that 'suzy' sent us to right.

we have got to be the most hypocritical society thats ever developed on this planet.

(you can discuss what you want. learning to focus is a valuble skill as always)

in other words

"ignore the screaming" if you want to show as a blog savvy peep here.

personally i find real extremes to be somewhat egotistical and pretentious but those are usually accompanied with oodles of hatred, self and otherwise...

War Dog said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
This is such a disrespect for Sam's incredible work, to be using this blog to talk about penises...no????

May 6, 2007 10:43 PM


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At this point we can only hope Ono is still in bed...

But, before you run away screaming..

Perhaps you have one issue that is most important to you..????

Sunshine Jim said...

Christopher Hitchens is now an American citizen?

oh jeez eep!

why?

Crank Bait said...

---Bait's War Dog Profile---

Believes that the U.S. military, directed by U.S. policy makers, will always prevail given enough time and money and lives.

Believes that lessened taxation levied against him equals more money for him.

Believes that the "Axis of Evil" actually means something beyond a speech writers' wet dream.

Believes that all politicians, as they move up, move to the middle (okay...so he's one for four).

Sunshine Jim said...

so nab!

your serve!

please make it a good one!

i'm rooting for you! (these are good peeps, give em a chance)

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Sunshine Jim! I will shorten my "nic". I have no intention to participate in this as a psych/soc "project"...I spent enough years doing that, and I have my clients to work with, so am not inclined to analyze other people...just want intelligent conversation. Yes, I am a newbie, and want to respect seasoned bloggers. "Zen buddhist logger fisherman"? Sounds lovely! I moved to Maine with my husband, two years ago, from the Bay Area...started a slowly growing pvt. practice out of our OLD farmhouse...love the outdoors (camping, rock climbing in the recent past, new to canoeing)...take care of way too many animals (border collie, two cats, and two horses)...wanting to restore this old house and barn...and have a hard time motivting myself, too! I am very much into 'reality' perceptions. We may be on a similar wavelength, or not...who knows? I think about this CATASTROPHE every fucking day and feel so helpless. That's why I'm resorting to writing on this blog! Help!

Unknown said...

"I thought that Sam's blog was a way to connect with other like-minded people, politically, so we can feel a sense of community and be some kind of grass roots for change. Maybe I'm too idealistic...but I can (and don't care to) go anywhere to read stupid adolescent sexual bullshit...don't ya tink???"

Perhaps the long awaited "new blog" will have a space for anything goes blogging, and other threads or branches for more directed focus. There's a good thing going on here, that wouldn't be possible without Sam's drawing power beneath it. I agree it would be nice to be able to harness it more effectively.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for all of your "welcoming" comments!

toniD said...

On Iraq, Gates may not be following Bush's playbook
As the president pushes for more time and money for the war, the Pentagon chief's message has seemed to run counter.
By Peter Spiegel and Julian E. Barnes, Times Staff Writers
May 6, 2007

WASHINGTON — President Bush has mobilized his administration, including his top general in Iraq, in a major push to win more time and money for his war strategy. But one crucial voice has been missing from the chorus: Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates'.

In fact, Gates' recent comments seem to run counter to the message from the White House. During a recent trip to the Middle East, Gates told the Iraqi government that time was running out and praised Democratic efforts in the U.S. Congress to set a timetable for withdrawal, saying it would help prod the Iraqis. He reiterated that point during a meeting with reporters last week.

A spokesman for Gates insisted there was no distance between the Defense secretary's thinking on the timetable for Iraq and views held by the White House or Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, commander of U.S. troops in Iraq.

But his warnings to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki are just the latest indications from Gates that he believes the window of opportunity for the administration to get Iraq right is closing sooner rather than later.

Any determination by Gates that time is running out on the current plan could severely complicate the administration's strategy this summer, a prospect that has begun to worry some backers of the troop "surge."

"I believe Gates is on a completely different page than President Bush and Gen. Petraeus," said a former senior Defense official who has supported the buildup. "He wants to see some results by summer, and if he doesn't see those results, he seems willing to throw the towel in."

LINK

toniD said...

Bring US troops in Iraq home: leading US daily
Published: Sunday May 6, 2007




One of America's premier newspapers wrote Sunday that the time has come to bring US troops home from Iraq, as support across the United States for continuing US military operations there continues to erode.

"After four years of war, more than 350 billion dollars spent and 3,363 US soldiers killed and 24,310 wounded, it seems increasingly obvious that an Iraqi political settlement cannot be achieved in the shadow of an indefinite foreign occupation," the moderately left-of-center newspaper wrote.

"Having invested so much in Iraq, Americans are likely to find disengagement almost as painful as war. But the longer we delay planning for the inevitable, the worse the outcome is likely to be," the LA Times editorial read.

"The time has come to leave."

The paper wrote that the US government "should immediately declare its intention to begin a gradual troop drawdown, starting no later than the fall."

It added that a current "surge" of tens of thousands of additional US troops in Iraq does not appear to have turned the tide of sectarian violence and insurgent attacks.

"This newspaper reluctantly endorsed the US troop surge as the last, best hope for stabilizing conditions so that the elected Iraqi government could assume full responsibility for its affairs. But we also warned that the troops should not be used to referee a civil war," the daily wrote.

"That, regrettably, is what has happened."

LINK

Anonymous said...

Hilarious. Now the cons think that French people love them. Oh, man.

air-ono said...

apologises to the blog for being a total pig earlier

(major "oi")

anyway, should i leave my offending posts or delete them
?
?

Sunshine Jim said...

ah yer in luck!

i so old i'm a fairly good

shrink shrinker! how can we help?

(ignore the trolls, they were all subbed out to taiwan last year and can barely speak engrish)

Crank Bait said...

---Bait's Bait Profile---

Shrinks in shame when he writes "a writers'" incorrectly as the possessive form of a single writer.

Anonymous said...

I want my Sam Seder!!!!

Sunshine Jim said...

eya AO,

no sweat, we love ya anyway.

Unknown said...

The public verdict on the war is plain. Large majorities have come to believe that it was a mistake to go in, and equally large majorities want to begin the process of getting out. That is what the polls say; it is what the mail to Capitol Hill says; and it is what the voters signaled when they put the Democrats back into control of Congress last November.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070506/OPINION04/705060430

One way or another, public opinion ultimately will be heeded on the war in Iraq. It is hard to imagine the Republicans going into the presidential election of 2008 with 150,000 American troops still taking heavy casualties in Iraq.

+++++++

Wide-eyed crazy talk.

Anonymous said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT: "...I think about this CATASTROPHE every fucking day and feel so helpless. That's why I'm resorting to writing on this blog! Help!"
May 6, 2007 10:56 PM
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Welcome to the monkey house. As your attorney, I advise you to take more of whatever you are taking.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya nab!

now that were old friends

feel free to address me as SJ if you'd like to.

yer in luck with pet lovers! we got a gaggle of em.

ToniD is a superb lady and very hip politically. introduce yourself. you can ask her dam near anything and she's unflappable.

air-ono said...

nah, sj
not this time
this time i wilfully (albeit, "playfully") used the s-word to abuse star-vox's music

then there was the anal jibe at shelly

it was abuse, pure & simple

i'd delete my posts, but i feel they should remain as shame

Anonymous said...

Thanks SJ and Crank! I certainly need to take more of SOMETHING! Just this interaction helps for the moment, to know you are all there to talk about this shit! I'll probably start off slow...never did this before...but feel like i NEED to DO something.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya nab

as you can see we're coming out of the woodwork to say hi.

glad to have ya here.

Unknown said...

The Century and a Half War against Socialism in the United States

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/177

Interesting little article

Sunshine Jim said...

relax!

this is artful

(sometimes fart full)

stream of conciousness stuff.

Anonymous said...

It's hard to relax when there are EVIL NUTS in control of our government. But, I do my best.

air-ono said...

er, yes/no

don't want to deter bloggers such as "nab" with my smut

and apologises are a cop out

Sunshine Jim said...

tell ya tho

there ain't a drug strong enuff!

only love is gonna get us through this to the other swing of the pendelum.

We are reminded of a poignant quote from Teilhard de Chardin:


"Someday, after we have mastered the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love. Then for the second time in the history of the world man will have discovered fire."

War Dog said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Thanks SJ and Crank! I certainly need to take more of SOMETHING! Just this interaction helps for the moment, to know you are all there to talk about this shit! I'll probably start off slow...never did this before...but feel like i NEED to DO something.


=========================================================================================================

It isn't going to get any better than this..

Clearly you have something to say..

I would advise you let fly before Ono gets his second wind..!!!

Anonymous said...

I have never heard Lionel, but I am verrrry afraid he will last toooo long! I have a hard time tuning in to Air America now...it's soooo lackluster!

Sunshine Jim said...

eya AO

STFU!

hows yer hangover

u silly twit?

Crank Bait said...

Sunny J (re: toniD), "...you can ask her dam near anything and she's unflappable."
May 6, 2007 11:10 PM
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I've been trying to flap her for years. At first, I should bone up on my Greek.

Blog: "What's on second?"

Bait: "That's what I'm trying to find out!"

Anonymous said...

Well, War Dog...let it fly? There's too much to write here. I am almost to the point of believing conspiracy theories (of the most reasonable kind of course...;D ) And, it disturbs me soooo much. And, it disturbs me more that most people don't even make themselves aware of what's going on in this country.

Sunshine Jim said...

eya NaB!

when you see a post like this:

"dada said...

The Century and a Half War against Socialism in the United States

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/177

Interesting little article"

open it up in another window and take a look. we've posted something like 85,000 of these article in our group reaearch into WTF is going on.

save it for later and add it to your own research.

air-ono said...

"oops, sorry your honour for killing those 20 people... i'm real remorseful... um, can i go home now"

it's too late then, the damage is done

and i don't live in a neo-con world where misdeeds are forgottten about -- "did i really say smoking gun... was i really in the room when i fired those attorneys... look there's elvis"

[scurry under sink]

air-ono said...

//before Ono gets his second wind//

they'll be no 2nd wind today

i'll fly at half mast

and book myself into a church for an exorcism

toniD said...

Evening all!

Been in and out tonight. Cooking for My nephew and his daughter.

I see things changing now. It is evident that the repubs can't back Bush much longer. There is an overwhelming majority of voters that want out of Iraq now.

28% of the brain dead still back Bush.

Anonymous said...

These are great numbers...be optimistic!....down, down, down...is good!

Sunshine Jim said...

I am almost to the point of believing conspiracy theories""

oh baby!

you have no idea yet how baD IT REALLY IS AND THAT'S JUST THE STUFF WE CAN prove by their arrest and conviction records.

(oopsered the caps lock on that one)

air-ono said...

wow, crank's getting risque

(i hate that word but anyway)

crank,
are you drinking your white russian or injecting it into your eyeball...

move away from the edge of profanity, crank

sure it's glamourous for a while

until you end up behind bars like paris hilton

btw, i heard she's bunking up with chubby
: )

Sunshine Jim said...

oh for christine sake AO!

would you stop being a drama quenn and say something rude to NaB...

Anonymous said...

Oh, YES! I have an idea on HOW BAD IT IS (no oops on caps here)! I was just presenting myself tentatively.

Anonymous said...

Why is there obsession with rudeness???

War Dog said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Well, War Dog...let it fly? There's too much to write here. I am almost to the point of believing conspiracy theories (of the most reasonable kind of course...;D ) And, it disturbs me soooo much. And, it disturbs me more that most people don't even make themselves aware of what's going on in this country.


=========================================================================================================

Well you have come to the right place Doc...

Sunny has an alternative theory for every "scam" as he calls them..

Dada here is our Israel / Palestinian guy...

Cranky, well cranky is our neocon hater... top notch..!!

Toni works hard to put Bushco behind bars...!!!

Me, well I just make your stomach hurt more, so lets keep that for later..

air-ono said...

//say something rude to NaB//

LMAO

i'm busy licking my wounds

toniD said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
Why is there obsession with rudeness???

May 6, 2007 11:39 PM

We've been blogging here for three years. It's more like siblings arguing with one another.

Anonymous said...

What does "lmao" mean? Aren't I a stupid blogger newbie???

Sunshine Jim said...

eya nAb!

Nubie tip #1:

see how i address you when i'm typing directly to you?

or use quotation marks like this:

"I am almost to the point of believing conspiracy theories"

and then your reply...

it'll help avoid confusion till you're used to the timing on the stream of conciousnessyou're familiar

Anonymous said...

okay...

eya SJ...

I'm trying to get it...BTW what does "eya" represent? Sorry for having to get this tutorial in order to interact.

air-ono said...

we can only tell you the secret meaning of "lmao" if you post your credit card number & password

then you will be part of the secret movement

Unknown said...

The following is an ad from the back of the "Johns Hopkins University Studies in Historical and Political Science," third series, book IV, published April, 1885:

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New York Times
A little treatise which has reached a third edition in England owing to its conciseness and clearness. Mr. Allardyce has a gratifying breadth of mind regarding punctuation. His remarks are sensible and well weighed.

Home Journal, New York
This is a capital guide for persons who have fallen into perplexities through the multitude of rules and refinements with which the process of punctuation is usually encumbered.

++++++

I know what I'm getting Crank for his birthday.

Sunshine Jim said...

LMAO = laffing my ass off

ROFLMAO = rolling on floor laffing my ass off

LOL= lots of laffs or laffing out loud.

AOIADQ = Air Ono Is A Dramerr Queeen.

see? traditional bloggie stuff

toniD said...

Buffett's forecast: turbulent market

By James P. Miller, Tribune staff reporter; Tribune news services contributed to this report
Published May 6, 2007


OMAHA -- Fabled investor Warren Buffett predicted Saturday that the stock market will be subject to even more periods of turbulence than normal as companies and financial firms pile on more debt and as an "electronic herd" of investment managers pursue hair-trigger trading.

Nonetheless, Buffett told 27,000 stockholders of his Berkshire Hathaway Inc. investment company that the company plowed $5 billion into new investments in the stock market in the first quarter of 2007.

Stocks have been far from cheap of late, so Buffett's stepped-up foray into equities may suggest he thinks the market's recent climb isn't over.

Berkshire's shareholder meeting, held every May in Buffett's hometown, draws huge crowds. Unlike the drab and usually brief rituals most corporations convene, Berkshire's meeting lasts all day and has the feel of a celebration.

For several hours, he and Vice Chairman Charles Munger sit on a stage fielding questions from the audience. In the course of the question-and-answer session, the man considered the world's most successful investor blends folksy one-liners with sophisticated insights about the market.

Because Buffett's investing skills have been the engine of Berkshire's success, stockholders have grown uneasy about the issue of a successor.

Buffett, 76, has picked three internal candidates for the job of succeeding him as chief executive of the sprawling holding company. Earlier this year, he signaled that he was planning a nationwide search for an outsider to take his place as Berkshire's chief investment officer.

On Saturday, he said the company may select up to four investment candidates. But Berkshire investors, who are devoted to Buffett, displayed little interest in the issue.

During the meeting, shareholders overwhelmingly rejected a proposal that would have prohibited Berkshire from investing in foreign companies that engage in activities that U.S. corporations must avoid because of presidential executive orders.

Specifically, the proposal would have required the holding company to sell its 2.3 billion shares of PetroChina, which does business in Sudan.

LINK

Crank Bait said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT: "...And, it disturbs me more that most people don't even make themselves aware of what's going on in this country.
May 6, 2007 11:26 PM
---------------------------------
Uh...I'm gonna get slapped for this, I think. I am preaching to the choir. Here goes anyway.

When there is no sacrifice beyond the warming water surrounding the frog, the frog ain't concerned.

WWII--BIG sacrifices.
Vietnam--Conscription sacrifices.
Iraq--Costly gasoline. Not much else.

Even War Dog, the consummate anti-Liberal Hawk, connects Jimmy Carter to high gasoline prices but makes no connection between Iraq and the price of fuel.

Don't get me wrong. The price of fuel is not a big issue for me except in the context of what it would have cost if Cheney/Bush were not foreign policy disasters.

I only mention the cost of gasoline as the only sacrifice that the electorate feels as a result of Cheney/Bush incompetence.

If, say, rubber and beef and sugar and aluminum were being rationed, the electorate would be paying more attention. The electorate does not FEEL the debt that is being accumulated to pay for the war, not to mention the destruction of goodwill toward the U.S.

And the whacked-out actions by whacked-out vets to come? Don't get me started.

When the inevitable next on-American-soil terrorist action occurs, who can say that it was not due to Cheney/Bush foreign policy? It will, of course, be seen as vindication by the Hawks and not as retribution for their support of a crappy foreign policy.

I'm a Hearts And Minds policy believer. That's how the military makes soldiers out of kids. That's also how foreign policy makes friends out of the oppressed and the impoverished.

Sunshine Jim said...

rudeness?

where?

Unknown said...

"eya" is similar to "yeah" or "ya"

more traditionally "aye" like a pirate.

aye me hardees. eya me maties.

That sort of thing.

Anonymous said...

Or, in a similar tradition, "Ayuh".

air-ono said...

ignore sunshine jim, he's insane
anyway, as i was saying...
i got my bling on
(for jesus)
and i'm looking good

(i'm bullet-proof)

toniD said...

Of course you don't have to use internet shorthand. I rarely use it. IMHO

Anonymous said...

Dear Downstater...

Oh, GOOD! I've just learned to say "Ayuh", after two whole years in maine!

Sunshine Jim said...

"Ayuh".

yup! one of my ol boatbuilding guru's was a downstater.

i currupted it since i'm from or'igun.

loved that ol fart, miss em near every day. i pretend i can talk to his spirit and tell him bad jokes.

he laffs...

Crank Bait said...

Not a BONEHEAD you ID-JIT said...
What does "lmao" mean? Aren't I a stupid blogger newbie???
May 6, 2007 11:42 PM
----------------------------------
As your attorney, I advise you to avoid the dark side. If you can type, what's a few keystrokes among friends?

Here is the acceptable shorthand for LMAO; "That was funny."

See? It's not so difficult, is it?

Here is the acceptable shorthand for ROFLMAO: "That was very funny."

(They don't call me Cranky fer nuthin'.)

toniD said...

CNN: No Copyright Restrictions On Our Debate Footage
CNN has announced that video footage from their Presidential debates will be available without restrictions, enabling users on the Internet to easily disseminate excerpts for further review. CNN's first debate will be held in New Hampshire on June 3, featuring the Democrats, followed by a Republican debate on June 5.

Sunshine Jim said...

Cya L8r nab!

galdammer AO you bizarre POS!

now u scared her off!

with yer "i got my bling on"

i'll bling yer orker! yyo squid!

War Dog said...

Ok Ono, company is gone...

You can cut loose with the profanity again..

I know you are starting to tremble holding it in..!!!

air-ono said...

so many pics
and so little time...
(gtg)

and redeem myself
(ciao)

Crank Bait said...

nab: "...I gotta bring my horses in..."
May 6, 2007 11:57 PM
---------------------------------
I don't even want to think about her kitty litter bill.

air-ono said...

//You can cut loose with the profanity again//

i wish
(i disgraced myself)
so i gotta cool it

Sunshine Jim said...

wait til we get to ROFLMFAOYA!

Cat Chew said...

"You're all full of shit!"
Uh-oh. The jig is up!
----------------------------------
Formerly air-ono's fan club.
----------------------------------
Hmmm. I thought "eya" represented the fact
that Jim has been in Canuckistan too long...
G'night, blogkins.

Sunshine Jim said...

sheesh dogger u were only semi-rude!

(somebody feel his nose)

Anonymous said...

I DID just bring in the horses...and YES my kitty litter bill is high. But the horses, they have their own 'kitty litter'!

Anonymous said...

It's amazing, how when you leave for 5 minutes, everybody tawks behind your back... :D

Sunshine Jim said...

love a u catchoo!

nite!

toniD said...

Is Karl Rove An Atheist?
By Eric Kleefeld | bio
Could the "architect" of the political success of George Bush and the GOP — which relied heavily on cultivating the support and loyalty of Evangelicals, Christian conservatives, and megachurches from coast to coast — actually be an atheist?

So says none other than Christopher Hitchens, a sometimes-admirer of the White House's Iraq policies and the author of God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. And he claims to have it straight from Rove himself. Asked in an interview with New York magazine if anyone in the Bush administration had ever confided in him about "being an atheist," Hitchens replied:

Well, I don’t talk that much to them — maybe people think I do. I know something which is known to few but is not a secret. Karl Rove is not a believer, and he doesn’t shout it from the rooftops, but when asked, he answers quite honestly. I think the way he puts it is, "I’m not fortunate enough to be a person of faith."

LINK

Sunshine Jim said...

eya nab

deal with it...

Sunshine Jim said...

"I’m not fortunate enough to be a person of faith."

or ethics or personal responsibility or compassion or...

Anonymous said...

Hey TONID....I think Rove is more than an atheist...I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a satanist...not kidding.

Unknown said...

Let's all swap roles for when she comes back and really confuse her. I'll be a rightwing thinktank type...


The Consequences of Withdrawal from Iraq

http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=2760&cid=1&sid=27

The answer is simple: Emboldening Terrorists!

--

Is American Foreign Policy Responsible for 9/11?

http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=2764&cid=1&sid=27

The answer is simple: Of course not!

toniD said...

Night all. It was an early morning of work for me and alot of the afternoon cooking.

Later

Crank Bait said...

toniD: Is Karl Rove An Atheist? Karl Rove is not a believer, and he doesn’t shout it from the rooftops, but when asked, he answers quite honestly. I think the way he puts it is, "I’m not fortunate enough to be a person of faith."
May 7, 2007 12:12 AM
---------------------------------
...like our image doesn't suck eggs enough already...

Sunshine Jim said...

night T!

sweet dreams kiddoo!

War Dog said...

nab said...
It's amazing, how when you leave for 5 minutes, everybody tawks behind your back... :D

May 7, 2007 12:12 AM

=========================================================================================================

We thought you were gone..

Most of these guys dates end like that..

She says she needs to step out and is never heard from again...

You came back...

That's a first...

One in a row...!

Unknown said...

night catchew!

Unknown said...

Conservatives Love People

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_050407/content/01125110.guest.html

My idol, Rush.

Anonymous said...

Hey...I keep my word...and the horses were right at the barn door...so it didna take long to bring them in... :D

Unknown said...

Night t!

Sunshine Jim said...

ah ! Satanists!

that's what they do for a warm up.

we should lay N's repub pedophile arrest list on ya.

Crank Bait said...

dada: "My idol, Rush."
Bait: "What?"
dada: "I said, my idol, Rush."
Bait: "WHAT?"
dada: "Now cut that out!"

Unknown said...

You came back too quickly. I didn't get to organize the role switching joke. I think it would've been pretty funny.

Sunshine Jim said...

smart horses, sounds like they got the routine down.

i have pets too, but they're more like raising a pair of chainsaws.

Unknown said...

dada: "My idol, Rush."
Bait: "What?"

heh..

Hurry up and stand still!

Sunshine Jim said...

DIBS!!!

i get to be war fart!

Anonymous said...

Horses know when you open the barn door, they get GRAIN...so they are right there! Everyone else is also like a chainsaw (at my ankles).

Anonymous said...

I can't even think of words to describe Rush...maybe species of paramecium???

Sunshine Jim said...

ankle biterz have their charms!

we'd ask AO but he got shy, full of remorse and left to brood or wake up (he's an aussie)

Crank Bait said...

nab: "Horses know when you open the barn door, they get GRAIN...so they are right there!"
-----
...kinda like industrialists when you start a war, but cuter...

Anonymous said...

i'm going to change my address to "mab", ok?

Anonymous said...

Yes...like industrialists, and they'll run yer arse down to get the grain if ya ain't careful!

Sunshine Jim said...

paramecium?

you've just violated rule #2

we talking pseudopods here?

Crank Bait said...

nab said, "I can't even think of words to describe Rush...maybe species of paramecium???"

Bait: "What?"

nab: "I said, I can't even...NOW CUT THAT OUT!"

Sunshine Jim said...

i'm going to change my address to "mab", ok?

(Heh! aking permission!

here!

thats so cute!)

of course, good idea!

Anonymous said...

Sorry, paramecium was way too much of a compliment to rush...

Crank Bait said...

Sunshine Jim said...
paramecium?
you've just violated rule #2
-------------------------------
You'll never see a lone mecium. (Sorry. I got an image to maintain.)

Anonymous said...

Yes! See...I went from "nab", as in "not a bonehead"...to Mab...the fairy in a Midsummer's Night Dream? Am I right? What a transition...with only one letter!!!!

Anonymous said...

I'm sure this will generate opposition!

Anonymous said...

So...does anybody here have any favorites for the primaries???

Crank Bait said...

mab said...Yes! See...I went from "nab", as in "not a bonehead"...to Mab...the fairy in a Midsummer's Night Dream? Am I right? What a transition...with only one letter!!!!
May 7, 2007 12:33 AM
----------------------------------
Shit. My money was on Mares Are Bedded. (I never win these fucking office pools.)

Sunshine Jim said...

so! have we intro'd you to the blog adequaterly?

*

nab a ku

*

So nab shows up here

and was embraced by the gang

a springtime entry

*

Anonymous said...

Mares might be bedded...but I have two geldings...and they don't bed anyone.

Anonymous said...

Thanks SJ...Maybe I am an entry...hopefully with a good post position

Crank Bait said...

mab said...
Mares might be bedded...but I have two geldings...and they don't bed anyone.
May 7, 2007 12:37 AM
---------------------------------
You have the gift of gab.

Sunshine Jim said...

Oh the poets whimsy!

old will would have been welcome here!

keep it for this age and gift it with laughter.

i live for the irony!

Sunshine Jim said...

favorites for the primaries???

yes!

i'd like an semi-honest one.

Crank Bait said...

Sunny J: "You got any gelding jokes?"

Bait: "Hold still. This won't hurt."

Sunshine Jim said...

geez!

i'm waiting for Snorkelbutt to offer her a backrub...

Anonymous said...

Can U say OBAMA??? Fingers crossed???? See...I'm already showing my cards...

Sunshine Jim said...

riding horses mab?

Unknown said...

I would make a good rightwinger.

The progressive left America haters want you to surrender your freedom! What a bunch of commies!

We're under attack... but not by terrorists, it's an illegal alien invasion!

Fred Thompson, save us!

See?

Anonymous said...

Shit...I haven't ridden my horses since we moved to Maine! We don't have a place to work them...doing that this summer...And, after falling off of the big guy a couple of years ago, don't want to jump on until they get their ya-ya's worked out of them. Buck buck buck, like a chicken heah!

Sunshine Jim said...

truth is all of them are horribly compromised.

we really need to kiss this corporate election rigging off and dam soon.

man we got so much shit heading our way!

gonna make this BS look like grade school squabbling.

Anonymous said...

dada...
it's hard to feel that way when I lived in california for so long with the hispanics so integrated in our culture there. It's so different when you are around them, as individuals...Please let the government come down on the companies that hire them for cheap labor. Punish the companies, not the people!

Unknown said...

"does anybody here have any favorites for the primaries???"

In a more sensible world, Kucinich.

In this world, no.

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